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Jeff Kieth from Telos/Omnia to Wheatstone

Do you think Wheatstone should stick to making consoles? I do miss the simplicity of the A500 consoles. It was funny when the A500's were used in IBOC testing because the first or second generation digital consoles could not touch the analog specs. I really don't believe they will threaten Orban or Omnia in the processing world. Wasn't the stereo enhancer in the Omnia stuff designed by Jeff Keith?
 
Maybe the gentleman simply likes the ambiance of the Carolina costal plain as opposed to The Mistake By The Lake. Wheatstone is currently turning out nice products, and supporting them well. A far cry from the days of calling for a module and having the parts guy ask "Uh, what was the serial number of that console??"
We got a demo of the integrated digital product about a year ago which included a Vorsis processor. I remember it having a high LRL count, but little else about it. The company bought the consoles, though.
 
I still think the Omnia One was introduced for the Axia and to offset any headway with the Vorsis, from what i'm hearing needs alot of work on the clippers.but don't worry, Omnia has a strong engineering dept.i don't believe the defection to wheatstone will drastically increase sales of the vorsis or hurt omnia or orban.
 
wgliradio said:
http://beradio.com/people/jeff-keith-wheatstone-team/

Jeff was a big part of the Omnia 6 development. I guess Wheatstone is serious about the Vorsis. They have a long way to go. It is totally opposite of transparent from the demo I heard.

This could get very interesting for fans of audio processors......
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Jeff's a tremendous engineer, and we will miss him. We wish him luck in his new adventure. Jeff's part in Omnia.6 was more firmware than algorithms. They key parts of the "secret sauce" were from me, and still are.

-Frank Foti
 
menotti1 said:
I still think the Omnia One was introduced for the Axia and to offset any headway with the Vorsis, from what i'm hearing needs alot of work on the clippers.but don't worry, Omnia has a strong engineering dept.i don't believe the defection to wheatstone will drastically increase sales of the vorsis or hurt omnia or orban.
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Ah, not sre where you're getting your info, as this is *TOTALLY* wrong. Omnia.One was designed for a segment of the marketplace we had not addressed before. From what you're hearing: The clippers? There have been no FM demos, with exception of a beta test unit last year at NAB. Thus, your info is hearsay. The first iteration of Omnia.One will be for streaming audio, with the FM-Stereo version not far behind.

If I may modestly say...while we're aware of what our competitors are doing, as a brand leader, we work hard to keep our eyes front and center, instead of looking over our shoulders. Our motto is to keep resetting the "bar" so we've got a new goal to go after.

Axia, has created a *TON* of noise in the broadcast industry, and it's very aparent that others are reacting to Axia with side-line efforts in hopes of throwing us off course. Fat chance as Axia is lead by Michael "Catfish" Dosch, who is a sage in the console and networked audio area. BTW: Our Livewire tech was invented by our research and development team, and if you look close enough, "others" are frantically trying to play catchup. We wish them well!

Our company, Telos-Omnia-Axia, is now one of the largest radio broadcast equipment makers, and we're not going away anytime soon! The fun is only beginning! :)

-Frank Foti
 
fm-engineer said:
Wasn't the stereo enhancer in the Omnia stuff designed by Jeff Keith?
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No, Stereo-EFX, was designed by me, implemented as an option in Omnia.fm, and carried forward in Omnia.5 and Omnia.6.

-Frank Foti
 
Frank, i was talking about the clippers in the vorsis, not the omnia one.sorry if that was misleading.and the rest of my thread was just opinion and not meant to be false or hearsay.if it was incorrect,i'll be man enough to apologize.as a omnia 6ex user, i know how top notch your products are when they come to market.
 
menotti1 said:
Frank, i was talking about the clippers in the vorsis, not the omnia one.sorry if that was misleading.and the rest of my thread was just opinion and not meant to be false or hearsay.if it was incorrect,i'll be man enough to apologize.as a omnia 6ex user, i know how top notch your products are when they come to market.
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My apologies as I misunderstood your post. Thank you for the response. (This is one of the crazy things about the internet.)

-Frank Foti
 
When last I looked at the Axia product, my thought was, it's a great idea, and I wish the worksurfaces looked a little more rugged. Which isn't to say they were or werent rugged, but they didnt LOOK rugged.
At one point, I was under the impression there was going to be a sort of open architecture for i.p. worksurfaces... but it never happened. The SAS is the best looking one from the point of view of ruggedness and function. It would be nice to integrate it into, f'rinstance a set of H-P switches and Axia operating system. Or a Bridge Router, if you already had one. You guys ought to talk to each other more than you do.
 
I agree. I LOVE the Axia idea, I'm just not in love with the surfaces. It doesn't feel like a console... even the faders don't have a traditional feel and I'm not a big fan of breaks for in-studio controls etc in the layout of faders. Something is missing.. it does FEEL rugged... you can put that to rest, but not right ???

The SAS consoles feel and look more traditional with all the modern bells a whistles. If I closed my eyes while working a fader, you would think you were running a BMX-III, but have the benefit of digital routing (albeit not as good, IMHO, as the Axia idea of routing).

I think you need to keep the console traditional, no matter what kind of control goes on behind the curtain. The Element is a step in the right direction, but I still don't like the faders and would have a problem with an added monitor in the studio (when you have so many others already) to display meter function etc. That should be included in the surface somehow.
 
littlejohn said:
When last I looked at the Axia product, my thought was, it's a great idea, and I wish the worksurfaces looked a little more rugged. Which isn't to say they were or werent rugged, but they didnt LOOK rugged.
At one point, I was under the impression there was going to be a sort of open architecture for i.p. worksurfaces... but it never happened. The SAS is the best looking one from the point of view of ruggedness and function. It would be nice to integrate it into, f'rinstance a set of H-P switches and Axia operating system. Or a Bridge Router, if you already had one. You guys ought to talk to each other more than you do.
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Actually, Axia is open architecture. We have numerous tech partners who have incorporated Livewire tech. Regarding SAS, they were a partner, and then they chose to make a control surface which forced them to back off their work with us. We hear what you're saying, and hopefully others will too.

Bottom line: IP audio is here, and unless we create a standardized method of using it, various efforts will fall by the wayside, as they get stuck into their own proprietary methods.

-Frank Foti
 
It would have been nice to see an SAS type surface on the Axia architecture. The problem with standardization is that everyone has their own ideas and that always seems to hinder advances in the past.
 
wgliradio said:
It would have been nice to see an SAS type surface on the Axia architecture. The problem with standardization is that everyone has their own ideas and that always seems to hinder advances in the past.
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Standards are needed if a tech is to be adopted as a common. Look at AES, it was standardized. It's sort of a "dumb" signal as it's basically the audio signal in a digitized continuous format, with very little ancillary data to go along with it. Additionally, it cannot be managed in a packeted manner as IP data is.

Livewire, on the other hand, offers all the same linear aspects as AES, but it can be packeted, contain multiple linear channels (as in surround), provide significant ancillary data, and carry control signals. This method could be standardized. The audio, and broadcast industry would have a significant tool for routing, managing, and utilizing audio in methods not available before. This would eliminate sound cards from computers, and replace them with a known high performance audio system.

-Frank Foti
 
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