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Jeff Kuhner has Reportedly been infected with COVID
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Ignorance and selfishness is a hell of a toxic combo.
Calm down, you're replying (arrogantly) to an untrue statement.
I heard him say on one occasion that he would gladly take the Novavaxx once it gets its FDA approval, which is imminent.
Agreed, but unfortunately a statement like this loses so much legitimate meaning when people like Kuhner, who's one of the fastest to judge others negatively for their views, try and say things like this when they only wan't others to respect their opposing viewpoint. What many seem to miss is that one is often given the same level of "dignity and respect" that they themselves afford to others.
Kuhner has been peddling vaccine misinformation since the beginning! That **** will probably praise his monoclonal treatment over the vaccine, even though if he were vaccinated he wouldn't have had to go through all that.
Say what you will about K0000ner, but that statement is patently false. Monoclonal antibody treatments are indeed being administered to the "fully vaccinated" - such as Howie Carr.
You don't understand my statement.
I meant he wouldn't have had to go through that debilitating illness.
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Or how much worse it may have been had he been vaccinated. A coworker's brother-in-law was "fully vaxxed and boosted" and still ended up in the hospital w/ covid pneumonia.
Your risk of severe disease is dependent on many factors, such as viral load and your co-morbidies. Kuhner has stated on the air he has asthma, which is a serious comorbidity in this case. So does Sandy, which is one reason why she got vaccinated.
Unfortunately, COVID has now turned into a religion for some people.
People on this forum know I'm a vocal critic of Kuhner in many cases. However, I do not believe Kuhner has ever been "anti vax" and has told people they shouldn't get vaccinated, or judged people negatively because they did. Kuhner has been pretty consistent that he is "anti mandate" and people should make a choice based on their own personal circumstances. In this respect, I agree with his position.
Some of what Kuhner states is factual but his correlation is faulty. He make statements like the vaccine has caused X # of deaths because that's what VAERS states. I have criticized him before on this. I have stated I do not know if its simply a case of him actually knowing better but deciding to "throw red meat" to the listening audience (which doesn't say much for the listening audience) in order to garner ratings, or if he is truly ignorant. Neither scenario speaks highly of him IMO. Someone in broadcast radio can opine on that matter if they so choose.
VAERS does not establish causality. "Patient got a covid shot, patient died an hour later" does not mean "covid shot = killed patient". In this respect, Kuhner is guilty of the same faulty logic people are when they say "X people died of COVID" when COVID hasn't been established as the cause of death, merely the patient HAD covid when they died. If I were to die today of a heart attack I would likely be classified as a COVID death even though (thankfully) I had mild symptoms and seem to be past the worst of it (oddly enough, my unvaccinated wife had even milder symptoms than I did.)
The VAERS data is useful when it comes to looking at potential trends. For example, if you normally see x% of people in society experience heart attacks on a daily basis, but in VAERS you see y% (where Y > X) then there is reason to take a look to see if there is a potential problem, or if there is a different explanation for the variance. There's a lot of statistical analysis, data regression, etc which have to go into that. In the end, there may be no relationship.
I also have family members who work in hospitals who have first-hand direct knowledge of physicians being "discouraged" or outright told not to file VAERS reports when it comes to the COVID vaccinations.
[I can speak with a modicum of authority on this topic (compared to broadcast radio, which I cannot), as I've taught undergraduate statistics at college for many years, and I also am a software developer at a pharmaceutical company based in Boston where one of the applications I developed and maintain is a system that collects adverse event data for the company's products and reports it to the FDA. I'm also very familiar with the FDA clinical trial/approval process for new drugs since much of the software I maintain is used by clinicians in their trials and FDA reporting.]
Point taken @Methuselah. My comment was meant to be more of a generalization and not about Covid or vaccination points of view specifically - And for the record, my comment applies not only to people like Kuhner and Rush who were/are happy to lambaste others with an opinion that differs from theirs, while in their next breath they cry for sympathy because their own points of view aren't being considered or accepted by everyone, but that same observation could apply to many talk hosts across the political spectrum.
The “died with/died of” thing is so tiresome. Believe it or not, doctors do not happily go around writing COVID on death certificates, which happen to be official records.
They know what they’re doing with regard to causes of death, and contributing factors.
They know what they’re doing with regard to causes of death, and contributing factors.
I have deleted several political posts. Time to close this thread.
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