Jerry, Jerry, Jerry is Gone, Gone, Gone?

[OhioMediaWatch]

Exclusive, as far as I know, to your Mighty Blog of Fun(tm), otherwise known as OMW:

http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com/2006/12/breaking-news-springer-out-soon.html

The upshot?

"SpringerOnTheRadio.com" has disappeared, supplanted with a redirect to the main Air America Radio site.

Jerry's pages are now wiped out on that site.

Jerry's no longer listed under the "Hosts" pulldown menu on AAR's site.

The only place we can find him? On the "Schedule" page.

This comes after Chicago Sun-Times radio/TV writer Robert Feder said Springer "could be stepping down from radio entirely" in his column this past week on the moves at Chicago liberal talk outlet WCPT/850.

We wouldn't be surprised if Jerry doesn't last the week, if he's even on the air Monday at all. Maybe he'll spend the week doing a farewell tour on WSAI/1360 in Cincy...and whoever else is left carrying his show next week.

 

[Radio_Realist]

Why does everyone seem so surprised about people who already have nice careers going who decide to give up a short-term digression into radio? Jerry Springer (and Al Franken and Janeane Garafalo) were never dedicated radio people. They were entertainers who did radio for a while. I'm sure that Gerry Springer's main source of income is still his television show, and radio more of a secondary "hobby" job.

So maybe Gerry Springer is going to quit moonlighting on the radio and stick to his TV show. Big deal! It's not like some full-time professional radio broadcaster was quitting the business.

 

[evnlee]

Why does everyone seem so surprised about people who already have nice careers going who decide to give up a short-term digression into radio? Jerry Springer (and Al Franken and Janeane Garafalo) were never dedicated radio people. They were entertainers who did radio for a while. I'm sure that Gerry Springer's main source of income is still his television show, and radio more of a secondary "hobby" job.

So maybe Gerry Springer is going to quit moonlighting on the radio and stick to his TV show. Big deal! It's not like some full-time professional radio broadcaster was quitting the business.

I'm not sure I agree with this premise.

Of the 'non-radio' talent hired at AAR, most were already washed up, career wise.

Think about it: Franken's movies and tv show tanked, he only gained notoriety for hiring a handful of college kids to write a book for him about existing talent. He was on the 'speech' rubber chicken circuit.I'll bet the AAR deal was alot more $$$ then he was used to getting, when they paid him

Garafalo? Not exactly burning up the celluliod.

Marc Maron? Haven't seen the HBO specials flying off the shelf.

Springer? The guy so dumb he wrote a personal check to a hooker? When he was the mayor?

The real surprise is that some of this crew has a gig to go back to

 

[raccoonradio]

Ironically enough Springer may wind up being one of the buyers of the network. Randy Michaels, Doug
Kreeger, Mike Papantionio, and others may be players in a poss. deal to buy the network--at a cut-rate
price (and a responsibility to somehow pay off that big debt)

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com

"By Wednesday, we should finally have an answer as to whether the network is saved by Kreeger and others, or whether it shuts down for good."

 

[FightingIrish]

Ironically enough Springer may wind up being one of the buyers of the network. Randy Michaels, Doug
Kreeger, Mike Papantionio, and others may be players in a poss. deal to buy the network--at a cut-rate
price (and a responsibility to somehow pay off that big debt)

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com

"By Wednesday, we should finally have an answer as to whether the network is saved by Kreeger and others, or whether it shuts down for good."

I'd take anything there with a grain of salt. One humorous thing I found was this:

Some insiders are claiming that Air America's key value is in its website. That may be true, but it's unlikely to be worth millions. If so, why shouldn't Michelle Malkin's blog be worth twice as much? After all, her Alexa ranking is 7830, while Air America's is well behind at 17398.

Anyone with at least some knowledge of computers knows that Alexa rankings are seriously flawed. They only measure people who have the Alexa Toolbar installed, and most spyware/adware scanning programs detect this and offer to uninstall it.

Alexa rankings can also be manipulated by webmasters. Here's a service that will help them do just that:

http://www.alexasurf.com/

I've done a few articles on streaming audio rankings, which are done by Webcast Metrics. These are much more accurate, and while not a measure of website hits, is a measure of how many people listen to AAR on their official online streams (they have three for the main stream for WMP, RealPlayer and iTunes/Winamp, and two more for the secondary stream that delivers Springer and Hartmann). You can find that article here:

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/search/label/Webcast Metrics

In the most recent streaming rankings, AAR ranked #11 overall. Note that this does not include individual AAR affiliates, so the number of people listening to any AAR product online would be significantly higher.

 

[Marc0n1]

It's true ... Jerry said so himself at the end of today's second hour. The show will continue through Friday, and that's it. Jerry himself, because of schedule commitments, may only do the show tomorrow and Wednesday, with reruns on Thursday and Friday.

 

[talkjim]

Think about it: Franken's movies and tv show tanked, he only gained notoriety for hiring a handful of college kids to write a book for him about existing talent. He was on the 'speech' rubber chicken circuit.I'll bet the AAR deal was alot more $$$ then he was used to getting, when they paid him

Garafalo? Not exactly burning up the celluliod.

Marc Maron? Haven't seen the HBO specials flying off the shelf.

Springer? The guy so dumb he wrote a personal check to a hooker? When he was the mayor?

Yeh, evn, and what have you done lately for the planet--other than to take a lot of space here repeating various right-wing talking points? Oh, and lying about the contents of my posts (documentation in the Stephanie Miller thread).

The purpose of this board is discussion--that and only that. Yes, and we discuss the minutia of radio. If you don't like it, find another place to waste other people's time.

 

[Radio_Realist]

Yeh, evn, and what have you done lately for the planet

I wasn't aware that we were being graded on what we had done for the planet lately. Was that in a thread I skipped?

other than to take a lot of space here repeating various right-wing talking points?

I don't know how to break this to you gently, but the sad truth about the second-rate careers and/or incredibly stupid moves of Franken, Garalalo, Maron, and Springer aren't "right-wing talking points". They are now, and have always been "B" list celebrities*. That doesn't make them bad people. It only makes them easy targets for jokes and ridicule.

Actually, Garafalo had some funny moments in "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion". And Springer has nice hair.

* (OK, I'm exaggerating, they're lucky to make "C" list, and are more at home with Kathy Griffith on the "D" list.)

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

He's gone, says the Cincinnati Enquirer's John Kiesewetter:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061204/ENT/61204009

 

[evnlee]

Yeh, evn, and what have you done lately for the planet

I wasn't aware that we were being graded on what we had done for the planet lately. Was that in a thread I skipped?

other than to take a lot of space here repeating various right-wing talking points?

I don't know how to break this to you gently, but the sad truth about the second-rate careers and/or incredibly stupid moves of Franken, Garalalo, Maron, and Springer aren't "right-wing talking points". They are now, and have always been "B" list celebrities*. That doesn't make them bad people. It only makes them easy targets for jokes and ridicule.

Actually, Garafalo had some funny moments in "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion". And Springer has nice hair.

* (OK, I'm exaggerating, they're lucky to make "C" list, and are more at home with Kathy Griffith on the "D" list.)

'Nuff said

 

[raccoonradio]

Reason for leaving via radioandrecords:
"“Radio is a full-time job, and I just couldn’t do it,” Springer told the Cincinnati Enquirer when asked what caused him to decide to end his one-year radio experiment.

 

[DougD]

I can't say I ever listened to his show for any stretch of time. The time I did listen in, however, I was pleased to hear he wasn't doing trash radio, like his crummy TV show.

 

[raymond_shaw]

Think about it: Franken's movies and tv show tanked, he only gained notoriety for hiring a handful of college kids to write a book for him about existing talent. He was on the 'speech' rubber chicken circuit.I'll bet the AAR deal was alot more $$$ then he was used to getting, when they paid him

Complete lie! He has written several books, all of them best sellers. And he wrote them himself. The book you refer to - "Lying Lies and the Liars Who Tell Them" - he hired a staff of top Ivy League students to research/debunk right wing lies. He acknowledges their efforts throughout the book - referring to them as "Team Franken." Al wrote the book. As for his speeches, he gets paid a ton of money and he does a lot of corporate work. Kinda doubt they serve rubber chicken - more like filet mignon.

Whether you agree with his views or not, that's your opinion. To say he can't write/doesn't write, that he does 2nd rate speaking engagements and his career is not doing well - that's a serious disconnection from reality.

 

[evnlee]

Think about it: He was on the 'speech' rubber chicken circuit.I'll bet the AAR deal was alot more $$$ then he was used to getting, when they paid him

Complete lie! He has written several books, all of them best sellers. And he wrote them himself. The book you refer to - "Lying Lies and the Liars Who Tell Them" - he hired a staff of top Ivy League students to research/debunk right wing lies. He acknowledges their efforts throughout the book - referring to them as "Team Franken." Al wrote the book. As for his speeches, he gets paid a ton of money and he does a lot of corporate work. Kinda doubt they serve rubber chicken - more like filet mignon.

Whether you agree with his views or not, that's your opinion. To say he can't write/doesn't write, that he does 2nd rate speaking engagements and his career is not doing well - that's a serious disconnection from reality.

Lie? How so?

Read what I wrote:

"Franken's movies and tv show tanked, he only gained notoriety for hiring a handful of college kids to write a book for him about existing talent."

What part of that is a ...Lie?

His movie was a bomb, he admits. His TV show was, in fact, cancelled!

Did I say 'Franken hasn't written any of his books'?

No, I said gained notoriety for his 'team Franken' approach to his first best seller, based on existing talent. All of that is true, even by Franken's own admission.

Lot's of writers actually research for thier own books themselves. Al didn' on that one, he had help. No lie there.

A June, 2004 Wall Street Journal investigative report on Air America stated Al was making "over $1 million a year".

Do you think 'Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot' netted him over a million dollars in royalties? Or 'Lying Liars'? Or his 40,000$, once every 4 weeks 'speaking engagements'? If so, you are the one disengaged from reality. :

I've never said that Franken couldn'twrite, on the contrary, I'e always said that was his best talent! It's when he tries to do the other stuff ( radio, stand up, TV shows, movies ) that he's 'less then stellar.

If that's is your example of a 'complete lie' you need to get together with TalkJim and FI, or some of the other happy lads that lurk around here with thier feelings hurt

 

[FightingIrish]

I can't say I ever listened to his show for any stretch of time. The time I did listen in, however, I was pleased to hear he wasn't doing trash radio, like his crummy TV show.

That was his intent. His TV show actually started out as a rather serious affair, similar to Phil Donahue, as he does have a background in journalism. The ratings were pretty mediocre. But over time, it turned into the trashfest that it is today.

Keep in mind that he's not really a 'shock' guy. He's often referred to himself a 'ringmaster' in a ridiculous circus. He never got rude, but merely just stepped aside and let the chairs and fists fly. And he makes a ton of money doing it. He also hosted a Johnny Carson-like talk show for British TV (he was born in England).

My prediction is that the TV show's days are numbered, if indeed his other outside opportunities continue to pile up. Let's face it, the show's been on so long that they could just rerun episodes for the next ten years and nobody would really notice. It seems he's out on a quest to clean up his image. And "Dancing With The Stars" and his radio show seem to have helped