I just heard Mr. Dickens, singing "Another Bridge to Burn," as if near death, on tonight's Opry. After inflicting his song on listeners and those in attendance, he apologized for his "vocal problem" and said he hoped it would go away as quickly as it appeared. This is all well and good, and I appreciate the man to death, but why was he allowed to perform in such a misearble condition? It was SO painful to hear!!! How about just hosting the segment and leaving the singing to others next time, huh?
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Jimmmy Dickens on tonight's Opry
- Thread starter 650AM
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No, it was worse than Ralph Stanley! Dickens sounded very ill.
I know he is an old guy, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere by the Opry mmanagment. Criminney... and here thay gave Stonewalll Jackson a hard time until he had to sue them to just get scheduled on the show. At Stonewall can still sing.
I know he is an old guy, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere by the Opry mmanagment. Criminney... and here thay gave Stonewalll Jackson a hard time until he had to sue them to just get scheduled on the show. At Stonewall can still sing.
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scottwmro
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650AM said:
I agree, and then I disagree. If it was too much for Mr. Dickens to sing, he shouldn't have, but let’s keep in mind that he has a lot of fans that may have came hundreds of miles to see him, so he got enough energy, and felt he needed to sing. I didn't hear it, since I don't listen to Country Music or the Opry, but I have respect for it. Jimmy Dickens is getting on up there in years and I say if he can try to sing, let him do it, but I hope there are medical personnel there to take care of him and this throat. He probably has what I have had, the bug, and he is getting over it. Believe me; it gets to your throat. With all this crazy weather we have been having, I understand. I hope Mr. Dickens gets better soon!
650 is right on drawing a line. Performers, with an interest in their reputation and memory owe it to themselves first to always show up in prime condition. Mr. Dickens is a good fellow and probably did this for the right reasons but management seems to never want to risk "offending" a legend. In the years of the "old timers" hogging the stage and having an attitude about the "new comers" to the Opry stage, stories are loud and long about how some icons can be. The "spotlight" is very seductive.
I am drifting from the subject but 650 hit my hot button.
Recently at the Hall of Fame fund raiser Urban and Swift drew screams and brought in tons of cash the icons could not do in today's market place. No "icons" who have been honored in the "hall of fame" were even there or introduced or acknowledged.Who was ignoring who? It's the further tension of "us" vs "them" in country music that's happened for years as the older people don't want to go away softly in the night. Suddenly country is "cool" again and it's not because of the Opry. When country wins, Nashville wins, but sometimes it's a hassle to fight the establishment. Thank you Taylor Swift for making this category red hot again and your sales speak volumes no one can dispute even though some "legends" have a hard time acknowledging it.
BTW. Anybody wonder why the Hall of Fame didn't jump on the chance to raise more money by selling the guitar she donated? Sometimes this town doesn't know who to worship. If the CMA and Hall of Fame and establishment types try to make Swift, Urban, etc., play by their old rules they might have a big surprise in store for them.
I am drifting from the subject but 650 hit my hot button.
Recently at the Hall of Fame fund raiser Urban and Swift drew screams and brought in tons of cash the icons could not do in today's market place. No "icons" who have been honored in the "hall of fame" were even there or introduced or acknowledged.Who was ignoring who? It's the further tension of "us" vs "them" in country music that's happened for years as the older people don't want to go away softly in the night. Suddenly country is "cool" again and it's not because of the Opry. When country wins, Nashville wins, but sometimes it's a hassle to fight the establishment. Thank you Taylor Swift for making this category red hot again and your sales speak volumes no one can dispute even though some "legends" have a hard time acknowledging it.
BTW. Anybody wonder why the Hall of Fame didn't jump on the chance to raise more money by selling the guitar she donated? Sometimes this town doesn't know who to worship. If the CMA and Hall of Fame and establishment types try to make Swift, Urban, etc., play by their old rules they might have a big surprise in store for them.
turnitupnow said:
Keith Urban sang "Coat of Many Colors" by Dolly Parton. But you're right...it would have been nice if just one of them would have shown up. The legends want the right to control the agenda of the Hall, but they don't have the power to pay for it. As you say, the power is in the hands of those who control the money. Right now, they have a lot more respect for their elders than the other way around.
Lil' Jimmy hasn't sounded up to par in a while.
I loved Porter Wagoner but the last 5 years of his singin' on the Opry was painful to listen to. Same for Roy Acuff and Ernest Tubb. These folks are true legends and will be forever part of country music history but there IS a time to pass the torch......
It is time for the elders to move over and make room for the new generation. And it's time for The Opry to start streaming the video and audio every week - and start paying more than scale so the stars can afford to come play.The days of clear channel AMs has passed - Opry management needs to refresh their vision so it will survive in the new world of the 21st century.
I loved Porter Wagoner but the last 5 years of his singin' on the Opry was painful to listen to. Same for Roy Acuff and Ernest Tubb. These folks are true legends and will be forever part of country music history but there IS a time to pass the torch......
It is time for the elders to move over and make room for the new generation. And it's time for The Opry to start streaming the video and audio every week - and start paying more than scale so the stars can afford to come play.The days of clear channel AMs has passed - Opry management needs to refresh their vision so it will survive in the new world of the 21st century.
taylorengineer said:
The members get more than scale. In fact, I think all leaders make more than scale. The stars they want can afford to play. They're all multi-millionaires. What they need to do, and they've started it, is to have fewer performers doing more songs. If you're going to get paid for an appearance, you should be able to do more than two songs. As for paying them more, the Opry is trying to hold the line on ticket prices. A lot of regular customers complained the last time they raised prices. They don't want to do it again. Losing the GAC coverage has hurt a lot in bookings. They need to fix that situation.
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scottwmro
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taylorengineer said:
Not yet, the Class "A" AMs will survive long after we are dead and gone. There are some markets where one of the big Class "A" Clear Channel stations is #1. It's going to be long after our lifetime that WSM-AM will die. WSM has one heck of a signal and I listen to them in Grand Junction, Colorado. They were booming into the west at night! We may have terrible groundwave in the Nashville area, like Watt Harriston has said, but the skywave at night, no limits! WSM booms everywhere like WLS.
The performers want more money to sing at the Opry because we are in economic hard times right now and music sales are down. They have to make a living too!
I love to listen to The Opry on AM skywave in Atlanta - it doesn't sound "right" on XM/Sirius. The summertime thunderstorm static crashes.....the fades......it's all part of the allure to me.
But the kids, the newer generation, aren't nostalgic for the "old days" of AM radio. The internet will be the next delivery system for audio - Opry management should "wake up and smell the coffee."
BTW......when the Opry left TNN the audio quality got terrible. What happened? It used to sound so well mixed - it was technically well done. When it went to GAC it started sounding really bad - my wife and kids noticed right away. It still sounds great on the radio though..........
But the kids, the newer generation, aren't nostalgic for the "old days" of AM radio. The internet will be the next delivery system for audio - Opry management should "wake up and smell the coffee."
BTW......when the Opry left TNN the audio quality got terrible. What happened? It used to sound so well mixed - it was technically well done. When it went to GAC it started sounding really bad - my wife and kids noticed right away. It still sounds great on the radio though..........
taylorengineer said:
My understanding is that the music is still mixed by the same people, Opry employees, in the sound booth in the back of the house. So it's probably something in the audio chain after it leaves the building. I have heard that about awards shows. It always sounds great on the truck where it's mixed. They take great pains to ensure the mix is perfect there. But frequencies shift a lot when passed through lots of amplifiers and 12,000 miles of space.
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Sgt Preston
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[size=10pt]Jimmy Dickens...will have a TRUE DICKENS of a CHRISTMAS!
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bigrobmjca
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turnitupnow said:
You know, as a disc jockey at a small station, we aren't really allowed to say what we think on air. I wouldn't mind if Nashville just went silent when it came to new country music. We have so much great country back in the archives. Nashville is killing country music. Roy Acuff Mother Maybell Carter are spinning in their graves. Though only 22, I don't give a crap what my generation thinks, But today's country music is junk compared to the older stuff!
Spew...have you made ONE positive post? Ever?
I'm a great complainer...but you're wearing seriously lame here...
I'm a great complainer...but you're wearing seriously lame here...
spew said:
There are plenty of people listening... before moving here I'd listen to the "Opry Weekend" program on KKGO in Southern California. Although it's not live or in its entirety, they air a lot of the weekly Opry performances, and have a fair amount of affiliates.
http://www.opry.com/tune-in/AOW.html
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jharmon
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By the way, is the Opry a radio show...or a concert venue for the older country artists?
Could the radio show survive without the revenue from the auditrium?
Could the Opry survive without the radio show?
Jimmy Dickens may have been in poor voice, but at least he has a place to sing and make a little money.
And he has Cracker Barrel with their libray of classic country CD sales.
Why would Taylor Swift play the Opry,except for the history of the venue?
Chicken or the Egg
Cart before the Horse?
I would listen to the Opry if they had an app from my Iphone.
Why dont they do that?
I have Pandora, why I cant have the Opry?
Could the radio show survive without the revenue from the auditrium?
Could the Opry survive without the radio show?
Jimmy Dickens may have been in poor voice, but at least he has a place to sing and make a little money.
And he has Cracker Barrel with their libray of classic country CD sales.
Why would Taylor Swift play the Opry,except for the history of the venue?
Chicken or the Egg
Cart before the Horse?
I would listen to the Opry if they had an app from my Iphone.
Why dont they do that?
I have Pandora, why I cant have the Opry?
I didn’t know financial angle, but when TNN and CMT were sold to CBS / Viacom it had to hurt The Opry. Parts of the Opry were accessible to anybody on cable then now it isn’t. A lot of people don’t like change. At one time it was a big deal to bring a drum set on the stage. Sooner or later the current batch of country stars will be on the Opry and some of them will not be as “good” as they are now. Some things never change.
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