Jimmy Kimmell

[70sdj]

I have asked this before, but does anyone know when somebody at Ch 2 management will take there head out of their whatchamacallit and put Jimmy Kimmell on?
The rest of the country gets it and it looks silly when dancing with the stars promo's his show and then dummies at Ch 2 continue to put junk on at midnight.
As anybody heard anything?
I thought he would be on when that Stone guy left.

 

[bpatrick]

It may also have something to do with the fact
that Channel 2 repeats its 11 pm news during
Kimmel's second half-hour, and the station is not
about to sacrifice the revenues that brings in.

But I'm also surprised Bill Hoffman hasn't put
Kimmel on; he ran Kimmel on sister station WFTV
Orlando.

 

[FloydB]

It may also have something to do with the fact
that Channel 2 repeats its 11 pm news during
Kimmel's second half-hour, and the station is not
about to sacrifice the revenues that brings in.

You might be right:
http://www.wsbtv.com/station/1941020/detail.html

According to that statement, their complaint is the length of the show. But, why not just tape-delay the show? They do that when the pre-empt ABC Primetime for their own programming, don't they? I know they've done it at least once or twice. CBS46 does it when they have to pre-empt CBS programming when they had Falcons games (which is only when they're on ESPN and they can get the local rights). Seriously, though, it wouldn't be that hard to delay it an hour or so into late-night say, after the News reair.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

I don't think any Cox Television ABC affiliates play his show.

 

[bpatrick]

WFTV/9 Orlando does; Bill Hoffman put Kimmel on
there last fall. WSOC/9 Charlotte still does not
carry Kimmel. I think there's something in the
affiliation contract between ABC and both WSB
and WSOC which says the two stations don't have
to carry network programming after a certain time
(either 12:05 or 12:35 AM, I'm not sure which).
I've heard talk that Hoffman is trying to renegotiate
that for WSB but so far that's all it is...talk. If he
succeeds, I'd bet he'd delay Kimmel because I don't
think he'll move the news out of the 12:35 AM slot.

 

[jal41]

Re: WSB and ABC

WFTV/9 Orlando does; Bill Hoffman put Kimmel on
there last fall. WSOC/9 Charlotte still does not
carry Kimmel. I think there's something in the
affiliation contract between ABC and both WSB
and WSOC which says the two stations don't have
to carry network programming after a certain time
(either 12:05 or 12:35 AM, I'm not sure which).
I've heard talk that Hoffman is trying to renegotiate
that for WSB but so far that's all it is...talk. If he
succeeds, I'd bet he'd delay Kimmel because I don't
think he'll move the news out of the 12:35 AM slot.

Then why is "World News Now" on at 2 AM on WSB?

When Bill Maher's "Politcally Incorrect" was on, WSB carried it at 12:05.

According to that statement, their complaint is the length of the show. But, why not just tape-delay the show? They do that when the pre-empt ABC Primetime for their own programming, don't they? I know they've done it at least once or twice. CBS46 does it when they have to pre-empt CBS programming when they had Falcons games (which is only when they're on ESPN and they can get the local rights). Seriously, though, it wouldn't be that hard to delay it an hour or so into late-night say, after the News reair.

Tape delays require network permission. This is to discourage preemptions.

Also, I have heard ABC as of late does not like affiliates preempting. When the "Saving Private Ryan" flap came up and several affilates (including WSB) wanted to delay it until after midnight, ABC refused.

I have said it in the past and I will say it again. WSB would be better off as an indie, since they have a strong commitment to local programming (I understand they are very liberal with their checkbook. If the revenues coming in exceed those coming out, it would work). Also, since WSB is carried in South Georgia on many cable systems, they could use that clout and create a statewide superstation with coverage rivaling that of the statewide 9-station GPB network (without Syndex getting in the way). WSB-TV could carry Braves games since the national TBS telecast will end after this year.

Also, Cox has duopolies in Orlando, Charlotte, and San Fransisco. Cox's ownership of the AJC prohibits Cox from going after WUPA or another TV station (unless the want to sacrifice the paper or their radio intrests). With WSB as an indie, they would have the freedom to program how they want 24/7, and with the exception of barter or cash/barter programs, get more ad revenue. Although I don't know know how they are financially, from what I have heard about what they are raking in it might just work.

I am curious as to when WSB's current deal with ABC expires. I think there should be intense lobbying to get the affiliation onto WATL. (Exactly like Jacksonville, where the heritage station is a top-4 performer and an indie, and Gannett has an NBC/ABC combo).

 

[bpatrick]

Note that I said I think there's something
in the contract that says that ABC can't make
WSB carry post-midnight network programming;
if WSB didn't want to carry "World News Now,"
there's nothing ABC could do about it. Like a lot
of ABC affiliates, WSB dropped Bill Maher after some
untimely remarks he made after 9/11, reclaimed the
time for itself, and (to now) has refused to clear the
12:05-1:05 AM slot.

With WSB's position as one of ABC's strongest affiliates,
the station can get away with just about anything it
wants, so it may just be a cold day you-know-where
before it picks up Kimmel. My advice would be to get
everyone you know to bombard Channel 2 with requests
(demands?) for Kimmel, and I don't know how effective
even that would be.

I still wish ABC was on Channel 11 but I'm dreaming the
impossible dream, I'm sure.

 

[jal41]

Note that I said I think there's something
in the contract that says that ABC can't make
WSB carry post-midnight network programming;
if WSB didn't want to carry "World News Now,"
there's nothing ABC could do about it. Like a lot
of ABC affiliates, WSB dropped Bill Maher after some
untimely remarks he made after 9/11, reclaimed the
time for itself, and (to now) has refused to clear the
12:05-1:05 AM slot.

WSB carried "Politically Incorrect" until its cancellation in June(?) 2002. They also carried "Nightline Extra" (the temporary fill-in program) until December.

When Nightline goes 90 minutes, they will carry it in its entirety. Of course, WSB delayed Nightline to 12:05 AM until about 1998 or so.

With WSB's position as one of ABC's strongest affiliates,
the station can get away with just about anything it
wants, so it may just be a cold day you-know-where
before it picks up Kimmel. My advice would be to get
everyone you know to bombard Channel 2 with requests
(demands?) for Kimmel, and I don't know how effective
even that would be.

I still wish ABC was on Channel 11 but I'm dreaming the
impossible dream, I'm sure.

Yes. But what about WATL. My Network TV is virtually dead.

As for bomarding WSB-TV, unless you have naked pictures of Bill Hoffman or Monica Pearson, it probably wouldn't work.

There may be more to this then what we know. Unless Hoffmann or (CEO) James Kennedy talks about it, we may never know.

 

[notalkallstatic]

Re: WSB and ABC

WSB-TV could carry Braves games since the national TBS telecast will end after this year.

I thought TBS (WTBS) was going to keep the national telecast of the Atlanta Braves, even though Turner/Time Warner sold them this week?

 

[livingfruitvirus]

Re: WSB and ABC

WSB-TV could carry Braves games since the national TBS telecast will end after this year.

I thought TBS (WTBS) was going to keep the national telecast of the Atlanta Braves, even though Turner/Time Warner sold them this week?

I think WTBS is going to broadcast the Braves locally. Cable station TBS is not.

 

[jal41]

Re: WSB and ABC

I thought TBS (WTBS) was going to keep the national telecast of the Atlanta Braves, even though Turner/Time Warner sold them this week?

I think WTBS is going to broadcast the Braves locally. Cable station TBS is not.

Correct. I was talking about a theoretical situation if WSB-TV went independent.

It is more likely that if TBS remains a superstation, they probably will sell off the rights to someone else (WATL or WUPA).

 

[fussbudget]

That is correct. TBS Superstation will drop the Braves after the 2007 season, except when they are the featured game on TBS's new Sunday afternoon national baseball
broadcast, or if they make the playoffs. WTBS will continue to carry 45 Braves games a year. I think through 2012, OTA and on some cable systems in north Georgia.