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[grantchester]

Re: Bullsh*t

> Bottom line. San Antonio is no place to make a living unless
> you were born into wealth. Their hopes rested with NAFTA
> after the Miltary boom,and that has not come to fruition.
> Perot was right .
>
ERM knows what he's talking about. San Antonio wages have always been depressed.
The political and economic model is straight out of the third world. With all due respect to Daveeduardo, I doubt he ever covered the overnight beat in those wonderful south and west side neighborhoods...
I'd like to live in S.A., but I lost my A** when I lost my job there, and the only offers I got were for $10 dollars an hour.
Sweetie, if you've got a successful morning show, why in the world would you want to leave it? Don't you realize how hard it is to establish something in a new market? Most radio jobs are spouse-jobs anyway, so if you don't have to be the bread-winner, go for it, and have some fun.
And why isn't this discussion taking place on the SA/Austin board?
G

 

[radiotex2]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

> Once again, no facts or articles to back anything your
> saying.
>
Saradio, I don't think that they are going to get it. They keep refering to the Cisneros reign over 25 years ago. Yes things were bad back then. Even Ten years ago when Wolfe was in office or Howard Peak things were improving but not there yet. They probably don't know that the number one industry in San Antonio is now financial services. Yup. Banking in San Antonio. Go figure. Even Toyota starting wages at $20 an hour are raising the stakes for other industies. I forgot about the NSA. All of those jobs will be high skill and high pay.

But if they were to read what we said, they would realise that these are all recent developments. All of their refernces are out of date and have no relevence today. San Antonio has changed, grown and developed. Radio is even changing in a very progressive direction albeit later than other markets.

This is the same stigma that NFL Comissioner Paul Tagliabue had about the Saints relocating here. Completly misguided and inaccurate. He has changed his tune since spending some time here and actually looking at the demographics and their changes over the past few years.

I think that if these guys had an open mind they might be able to see what a million and a half other people see. A decent city with new opportunities for a higher quality of life.

PS What OSR said in his post is correct, very distasteful. There is no reason we should be defending our home to people that don't live and work here. Thanks OSR.

 

[Kent]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

When you actually look at San Antonio, you'll find most of the trends described aren't much different than anywhere else. Economic trends everywhere are going more toward service industries. Shopping malls boomed in the 80's and 90's and are now starting to close and be "demalled." City school districts have been struggling for a long time as more are looking for homes in the suburbs. These are general trends you can apply to pretty much everywhere.

When it comes to radio in San Antonio, some people will like it. Some won't. If you want a market that has X, Y, and Z formats, San Antonio is probably not your cup of tea. Chances are one is missing in one of the few top-50 markets in the nation less than 100 miles from another top-50 market, making the market's frequency allocation table smaller than a typical top-50 market. San Antonio also boasted plenty of experiments when it comes to radio. KCOR calls itself the nation's first full-time Spanish-language station. KISS was one of the first FM's in the nation, and it's one of the longest in continuous operation having signed on in 1946. KXTN 107.5 was a pioneer in the Tejano music industry and is one of the few stations remaining in the format. KSMG launched a 70's centered oldies format about a year before CBS and Cox put 70's based formats on the map with "Arrow" and "The Coast." More recently, Mix 96.1 caused programmers and consultants nationwide to rethink their philosophy that only urban-leaning and rhythmic-CHR's could work in heavily Hispanic markets. If you long for that era of radio, you may well be disappointed in San Antonio radio, too. New ideas seem to have been tested less, at least in English-language radio, than previously, though there may be a glimmer of hope with a station like 92.5 The Outlaw trying something at least moderately different.

Certainly, Mix 96.1 is not the station it was when it was new. KCYY has also seen a definite decline in its quality of programming, and the ratings are reflecting that. Unless things have changed recently, Magic 105.3 is voicetracked for a substantial part of the day and sounds voicetracked for a substantial part of the day. The days of "Pure San Antonio KTFM 102.7" are also history. If you used to like those stations, you'll probably be disappointed in San Antonio as a radio market. However, there are some bright spots that many will be happy with. KISS, KONO and KZEP are among the most respected stations in the nation in their respective formats. In spite of its owner, KAJA is also finding itself gaining respect among the country music industry. Public radio also does well in San Antonio with KSTX/KPAC being very well respected and even originating at least one nationwide program. So, it's not all bad. It just depends on what you like.

The bottom line is you should move to San Antonio if you like the city and can make the income level you want. If one of the above doesn't apply, you should find somewhere you do like and/or can make the salary you want. I also wouldn't advise someone who co-hosts a top-rated morning show to just up and leave for a new city and look for a radio job. Regardless of whether it's San Antonio or anywhere else, that's Common Sense 101. In a business that's small and getting smaller everyday, you want to look for the job you want at the price you want and get it in writing before leaving a steady job. A friend of mine tried the "move and look for a radio job" routine a few years ago. She always wanted to move to Florida and, after our station was sold, decided it was a good time to leave the Midwest behind. Things didn't turn out the way she thought they would. She couldn't get a radio job where she went. She did, however, find a different job only to lose that job less than three months later when a hurricane went through and shut the business down.

 

[radiotex2]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

Thank-you.

This is the point I believe we were trying to make. The demographics in San Antonio have been stagnate until the past few years and now they are changing rapidly. This will affect radio more in the coming next few years than ever before. Changes will come and opportunities will open as the tastes change. This market has shifted from a military/tourist community to one of Finance and Production. This is a more different and diverse audience today than it has ever been.

San Antonio has alot to offer. It may not be what you are looking for, but that does't make it a bad place to live and work.

 

[houston1214]

Re: Bullsh*t

> > Bottom line. San Antonio is no place to make a living
> unless
> > you were born into wealth. Their hopes rested with NAFTA
> > after the Miltary boom,and that has not come to fruition.
> > Perot was right .
> >
> ERM knows what he's talking about. San Antonio wages have
> always been depressed.
> The political and economic model is straight out of the
> third world. With all due respect to Daveeduardo, I doubt he
> ever covered the overnight beat in those wonderful south and
> west side neighborhoods...
> I'd like to live in S.A., but I lost my A** when I lost my
> job there, and the only offers I got were for $10 dollars an
> hour.
> Sweetie, if you've got a successful morning show, why in the
> world would you want to leave it? Don't you realize how hard
> it is to establish something in a new market? Most radio
> jobs are spouse-jobs anyway, so if you don't have to be the
> bread-winner, go for it, and have some fun.
> And why isn't this discussion taking place on the SA/Austin
> board?
> G

To be honest...and hopefully you dont laugh your butt off...but I didnt see the SA/AUSTIN board the first time I looked....SORRY!!!
The main reason I was looking there is because of my husband...he wants to get into the "flipping" houses thing...since we heard that SA was one of the fastest growing cities in Texas...and it is very hard for me to even THINK about leaving here...I LOVE MY JOB!
>

 

[grantchester]

re: flipper

> The main reason I was looking there is because of my
> husband...he wants to get into the "flipping" houses
> thing...since we heard that SA was one of the fastest
> growing cities in Texas...and it is very hard for me to even
> THINK about leaving here...I LOVE MY JOB!
> >
>
Proceed with caution. They're slapping up new houses so fast, existing houses often fall in value. It looks like housing is cheap, and it is, compared to other cities, but desirable neighborhoods are already at full value, and there's a reason some nice-seeming neighborhoods are cheap. Violent crime in S.A. has fallen, but property crime, especially theft and burglary are very high. And, with the low wage structure in place, it's hard for people to afford a home there. Good luck to you, but be careful. And don't count on being able to support hubby while he gets his thing going.
g

 

[osr]

Re: Bullsh*t

> Out of curioosity, how can one tell an illegal immigrant on
> sight?

look for the trail of water they're leaving behind.

Bad joke. Sorry if I offend.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: re: flipper

> > The main reason I was looking there is because of my
> > husband...he wants to get into the "flipping" houses
> > thing...since we heard that SA was one of the fastest
> > growing cities in Texas...and it is very hard for me to
> even
> > THINK about leaving here...I LOVE MY JOB!
> > >
> >
> Proceed with caution. They're slapping up new houses so
> fast, existing houses often fall in value. It looks like
> housing is cheap, and it is, compared to other cities, but
> desirable neighborhoods are already at full value, and
> there's a reason some nice-seeming neighborhoods are cheap.
> Violent crime in S.A. has fallen, but property crime,
> especially theft and burglary are very high. And, with the
> low wage structure in place, it's hard for people to afford
> a home there. Good luck to you, but be careful. And don't
> count on being able to support hubby while he gets his thing
> going.
> g
>
Grant is correct. The property values are cheap,but the overall labor market is as well. We disagree on the violent crime,it too is up. The education levels are high school graduate at best. Those who received a college degree shows that over 70% left the area to persue a career according to the "Educational Project;2010" sponsored by the Northside ISD,NorthEast ISD,San Antonio Community College District, Southwest Research and UTSA. Another survery Done by Texas Lutheran University and still another one by Texas State University show the same exodus of College graduates. KONO is only decent station in place when the discussion is radio,and followed distantly by KZEP and KAJA.The pay is very low compared to other markets however. The only industry flourishing in SA along with the Tourista business is the service industry,notably restaurants. SA is a vacation spot,NOT a place to live comfortably,unless you are comfortable with a small income,and complacent.
Side note to SARadio- I did cite sources ,you just overlooked them or disagreed totally. So be it.

 

[alexpimp]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

> Thank-you.
>
> This is the point I believe we were trying to make. The
> demographics in San Antonio have been stagnate until the
> past few years and now they are changing rapidly. This will
> affect radio more in the coming next few years than ever
> before. Changes will come and opportunities will open as
> the tastes change. This market has shifted from a
> military/tourist community to one of Finance and Production.
> This is a more different and diverse audience today than it
> has ever been.
>
> San Antonio has alot to offer. It may not be what you are
> looking for, but that does't make it a bad place to live and
> work.
>




San Antonio's fine. It's a fun place to be. ALLLLLL big cities have crime and not so desirable areas. Are you gonna drive thru South Oak Cliff and count many mansions??? Hell no. Dallas's politics are a joke. If you like higher cost of living, and fake, shallow people, then Dallas is your place. And I live here!!! IMO.... Austin's the best place to live in Texas....All the big city attractions, many recreation places close, and it's not so HUGE you feel lost. Houston may be the best run big city in Texas. It's not nearly as bad as you'd hear on here either. Austin and San Antonio definately have culture & soul...Houston at least has NASA and Galveston...Dallas really doesn't have many identifying traits other than stuck up women shopping at Neiman Marcus.

 

[Jimprewitt1954]

Re: Bullsh*t

> > San Antonio is a great city. There's a reason why San
> > Antonio is the fastest growing city in Texas and 3rd
> fastest
> > in the nation. San Antonio job market has changed over
> the
> > last 3-4 years. You people need to do some research
> before
> > posting b/s on this board.
> >
> Sa I lived in San Antonio 18 years. I count Henry Cisneros
> as one of my friends and who I helped get elected as a
> councilman before he became Mayor,etc over 30 years ago. SA
> is a fast growing city population wise,BUT it also has a
> large influx of illegal immigrants .The wages are lower. The
> only thing SA has is the Northside,Northwest side and the
> river walk.South San Antonio, East SA, and west San Antonio
> around what was KELLY AFB have gone to seed.Central Park
> Mall,Windsor Mall,Wonderland Mall,McCreless Mall,Southpark
> Mall have gone dark.Northstar Mall is holding its own. HEB
> Grocery has done well but have started closng some of its
> stores due to loss sales. Harlendale ISD SouthSan
> ISD,Southwest ISD,Edgewood ISD,SAISD are hurting
> financially.ONly the Northside ISD and Northeast Isd seem to
> be holding on. The job market has changed yes from a miltary
> based one to Tourism. Fiesta Texas is not doing well by the
> way at last check. Seaworld broke even.If you drive loop 410
> south from Babcock rd to I-35 The Laredo Hiway,you will see
> more boarded up stores,graffiti,and run down homes. Drive
> I35 from the Austin Hiway to Loop 13 it's worse. Barios have
> doubled.
> Nelson Wolfe former Mayor of SA recently said that San
> Antonio's economy has stagnated.Losing Brooks AFB and the
> aerospace medicine unit only adds to the decline.Population
> wise San Antonio is growing but its welfare rolls have
> doubled. SA's crime rate has increase while Dallas has
> decreased.The homicide rate in Sa increased 18% last year.
> Theft went up 15%.So SA I did my homework. My still have
> contacts there,and I converse with Henry several times a
> year. My advice to you, work out of SA for at least 6 months
> then go back.Your perception will change that SA is NOT a
> good place to establish one self. If you were born
> there,lived there all your life and only have worked
> there,then I understand your sense of pride,but pride can be
> blinding at times.


KPLEX: Did you live next door to Edward R Murrown in SA?
>
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[Jimprewitt1954]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

> > You really need to get your facts straight. San Antonio
> is
> > a much different city than when Cisneros was mayor.
> Dallas,
> > Austin, and Houston have a higher income than San Antonio
> > but the cost of living is much higher.
> >
> > **Read what radiotex2 posted**
> >
> KPLEX's facts are accurate . If you noticed he also
> mentioned Nelson Wolfe. Cisneros is still involved in
> community affairs in SA. Jeffrey Wentworth your State
> Senator has also concurred that SA is in Economic trouble.
> San Antonio Property values have declined in most parts of
> the city. Drive around Miltary Drive and see the the
> economic blight for yourself. Its normal for a native to
> stick up for his home. The radio market in SA has declined
> since the days of Waterman,and mission broadcasting.



Edward R and KPLEXCOMPLEX agree so much, they could be the same person Hummm
>
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Lead, follow or get out of the way...

And remember, the early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

</P>

 

[willdav713]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

(((((((KPLEX's facts are accurate . If you noticed he also
mentioned Nelson Wolfe. Cisneros is still involved in
community affairs in SA. Jeffrey Wentworth your State
Senator has also concurred that SA is in Economic trouble.)))))

Economic trouble? Where are you getting your information from?
Other than Austin, San Antonio economy is the best in the state. We wouldn't be one of the fastest growing cities if our economy was in trouble. Think about!!
Here's a quote from our mayor-
“The future is bright for San Antonio and the state of the city is strong,” he said at the annual event sponsored by the Greater Chamber of Commerce. “I look forward to 2006 as a chance to continue the work that we've started.” He's referring to the thousand of jobs that are coming from Washington Mutual, National Security Agency and others.

((((((San Antonio Property values have declined in most parts of
the city. Drive around Miltary Drive and see the the
economic blight for yourself. Its normal for a native to
stick up for his home. The radio market in SA has declined
since the days of Waterman,and mission broadcasting.))))))))
What are you talking about??? Housing value decline??
Last month, Fortune magazine proclaimed the Alamo City the nation's "hottest" residential real estate market for 2006, with a projected appreciation rate of 8.3 percent. That follows a three-year stretch in which home values increased more than 20 percent.

If you don't live in San Antonio or know much about it. Plz don't post of what you think is happening here.


"radio billing has gone from $80 million in 1999 to an estimated $112 million last year. How is that "no growth?"
Very True!!

I know that this is a old post but I want to correct some statements made on here.

First, Houston has more undocumented immigrants than San Antonio, Second there is much more African Americans in San Antonio since the aftermath of Katrina. I lived in San Antonio Houston and Austin, and when I moved to Houston in 2000 African Americans where the Majority Minority there and have been for quite some time, construction, and energy played a part in that. After Tropical Store Allison 1 year later Houston became the domainant market for Hispanics citizens or non citzens with Spanish as the primary language. Washington Mutual and AT&T have left. Waterman, Mission Broadcasting, Albertsons, K-Mart, Handy Andy's (is there still one left?) along with Central Park Mall, Windsor (Greenspoint/Highland Mall Clone), McCreless, and soon Rolling Oaks gone bye bye. Sure you can get housing cheap but I would find a job in Austin that lets you vanpool via RiverCities RideShare in order to get your bang of the buck and the best of both worlds.

If you are relocating to San Antonio the job growth is in the burbs and that is not being very green so to speak.

If buying a house in SA be ware of the evil Hard Water and make sure you get a really good water softner or you be calling the plummer frequently.

San Antonio needs a deal like the City of Austin did with the Domain in Northwest Austin providing sales tax relief to spur new businesses in the city. Partner with the Wolfe Company that redid Houston's Meyerland Plaza for starters if they want to see potential. Radio is conslidated among BMP (in some type of loan problems), Clear Channel, Cox, and Univision being the power players.

Austin has Emmis, Entercom, Clear Channel, BMP, and Univision. To anyone out there in Radio relocating look at the Austin jobs first then San Antonio's. If you speak Spanish fluently look at Houston first, Dallas second, and San Antonio third because in Houston Liberman is a power player in the game because he owns the most stations and knows how to make rimshot stations work. Sorry to put SA third but you don't have Liberman there just Univision, and BMP. Plus Houston is the nation's 4th largest city, #1 in Texas.

 

[saradio1]

Re: KPLEXCOMPLEX READ WHAT radiotex2

(((((((KPLEX's facts are accurate . If you noticed he also
mentioned Nelson Wolfe. Cisneros is still involved in
community affairs in SA. Jeffrey Wentworth your State
Senator has also concurred that SA is in Economic trouble.)))))

Economic trouble? Where are you getting your information from?
Other than Austin, San Antonio economy is the best in the state. We wouldn't be one of the fastest growing cities if our economy was in trouble. Think about!!
Here's a quote from our mayor-
“The future is bright for San Antonio and the state of the city is strong,” he said at the annual event sponsored by the Greater Chamber of Commerce. “I look forward to 2006 as a chance to continue the work that we've started.” He's referring to the thousand of jobs that are coming from Washington Mutual, National Security Agency and others.

((((((San Antonio Property values have declined in most parts of
the city. Drive around Miltary Drive and see the the
economic blight for yourself. Its normal for a native to
stick up for his home. The radio market in SA has declined
since the days of Waterman,and mission broadcasting.))))))))
What are you talking about??? Housing value decline??
Last month, Fortune magazine proclaimed the Alamo City the nation's "hottest" residential real estate market for 2006, with a projected appreciation rate of 8.3 percent. That follows a three-year stretch in which home values increased more than 20 percent.

If you don't live in San Antonio or know much about it. Plz don't post of what you think is happening here.


"radio billing has gone from $80 million in 1999 to an estimated $112 million last year. How is that "no growth?"
Very True!!

I know that this is a old post but I want to correct some statements made on here.

First, Houston has more undocumented immigrants than San Antonio, Second there is much more African Americans in San Antonio since the aftermath of Katrina. I lived in San Antonio Houston and Austin, and when I moved to Houston in 2000 African Americans where the Majority Minority there and have been for quite some time, construction, and energy played a part in that. After Tropical Store Allison 1 year later Houston became the domainant market for Hispanics citizens or non citzens with Spanish as the primary language. Washington Mutual and AT&T have left. Waterman, Mission Broadcasting, Albertsons, K-Mart, Handy Andy's (is there still one left?) along with Central Park Mall, Windsor (Greenspoint/Highland Mall Clone), McCreless, and soon Rolling Oaks gone bye bye. Sure you can get housing cheap but I would find a job in Austin that lets you vanpool via RiverCities RideShare in order to get your bang of the buck and the best of both worlds.

If you are relocating to San Antonio the job growth is in the burbs and that is not being very green so to speak.

If buying a house in SA be ware of the evil Hard Water and make sure you get a really good water softner or you be calling the plummer frequently.

San Antonio needs a deal like the City of Austin did with the Domain in Northwest Austin providing sales tax relief to spur new businesses in the city. Partner with the Wolfe Company that redid Houston's Meyerland Plaza for starters if they want to see potential. Radio is conslidated among BMP (in some type of loan problems), Clear Channel, Cox, and Univision being the power players.

Austin has Emmis, Entercom, Clear Channel, BMP, and Univision. To anyone out there in Radio relocating look at the Austin jobs first then San Antonio's. If you speak Spanish fluently look at Houston first, Dallas second, and San Antonio third because in Houston Liberman is a power player in the game because he owns the most stations and knows how to make rimshot stations work. Sorry to put SA third but you don't have Liberman there just Univision, and BMP. Plus Houston is the nation's 4th largest city, #1 in Texas.

Another inaccurate post about SA by willdav713

First off, San Antonio unemployment rate is 7.1%...One of the lowest in the state. Secondly, many companies have expanded their presence or have moved to SA including- Washington Mutual, InCube, State Farm, Nationwide, SWBC, NSA, Rack Space and Gore Designs just to name a few. Also, the develoment of SAF Studios Inc(a 536 motion picture film studio) will further continue to diversify San Antonio's economy. Lastly, Central Park mall and McCreless mall both were demolished years ago. Central Park is now known as Park North. It houses many retailers with an AMC theatre attached. McCreless is now home to HEB Plus with several retailers around it. Rolling Oaks remains open with no plans in changing it. In addition, San Antonio has added to it's shopping landscape with the addition of The Shop at La Cantera. www.theshopsatlacantera.com

Here's more info on SAF Studios Inc.
www.safstudio.com

http://findarticles.com/p/news-arti...f-studios-catches-eye-directors/ai_n54540769/

 

[bobbranson]

SARADIO is right. San Antonio is the strongest economy in the nation right now, and its unemployment rate is low. BUT the radio pay sucks. Remember, this is home to Clear Channel!
If someone in a decent market is looking for a strong morning guy and you have what they want, you can make decent money...but don't quit your present gig until after you have a solid contract in hand!
I left Texas once, lured by a top-ten northeastern market...and couldn't get back fast enough.
The pay's lower, but so is the cost of living compared to most other places.

 

[radiopropd]

SARADIO is right. San Antonio is the strongest economy in the nation right now, and its unemployment rate is low. BUT the radio pay sucks. Remember, this is home to Clear Channel!
If someone in a decent market is looking for a strong morning guy and you have what they want, you can make decent money...but don't quit your present gig until after you have a solid contract in hand!
I left Texas once, lured by a top-ten northeastern market...and couldn't get back fast enough.
The pay's lower, but so is the cost of living compared to most other places.

I did the same, leaving Texas and moving to Northeastern Wisconsin back in 1999 - the pay was higher than I was getting in Texas, and the cost of living somewhat lower (although food was substantially higher) - but you really need to check out what the income tax is wherever you decide to go - remember there is no income tax in the Lonestar state - that will have a major impact on whatever income/cost of living is.

 

[Starbucks]

At my real job....I deal with retail companies. Mainly their headquarters. And I deal nationwide. During the heaviest part of the recesssion....the few states and markets that held up compared to places like California, Phoenix, Michigan, and Vegas....is Texas. Why??? One of the reasons is that many of the retail headquarters are located in the Dallas area. That is market number 1. The other rival behind it...is Omaha. Everyplace I contacted for business, done business or potential business happens to be in the Dallas area. Atlanta, and Charlotte were also on the list as far as headquarter locations...but their economy as well the states has been declining.
What does that tell me?...it's a healthier economy..even in the worst of times. The job growth and housing market has held stable. Even Houston, (I believed faced bankruptcy) has oil, technology and retail as well. If it's anyplace to buy a home...or opportunity...it would be in mostly in Texas, even in the worst of times.
San Antonio has done well as a private sector area,but the war has effected it when your military is fighting a costly war over in Afghanistan, Iraq etc. I'm sure that hurts alittle.
But despite the wages, it's the opportunity is what's better if your in a city like San Antonio or Austin. And the cost of living....it's much better then California, New York, etc.
As far as radio....businesses that show a profit, are still laying off and cutting departments and employees the no longer are needed. And Radio...it doesn't matter if CBS is sales are higher, if they can be profitable without you...they don't need you. Thanks to automation software, (and that's including administration, corporations period!) Not just radio stations.
But if it's anything that has held up during the worst of times...it's Dallas-Ft Worth, and even markets like Amarillo, San Angelo and Lubbock are doing better then anything in Ohio, Buffalo, Miami, and even New York in the long run.
Laredo, and El Paso...that's a different world. Especially the border towns. They'll always be what they are. Low paying, low mentality markets.
I would move to Texas myself, except I don't like tornadoes, and high humidity summers. Not for me.