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Clayton Douglas

I recall a jock atTop40-WIBG-Philly once telling me: as darn frustrating as radio can be at times it still beats ditch digging, truck driving and factory work! The jock told me he had done those jobs before getting into radio. I don't think I should mention his name here. He's still around.
 
Yes I suppose some of my comments are trivial. I'm retired and bored. maybe I need to return to the air part time. but there are not many oldies stations left--- darn it!
 
Not many oldies stations left. at least not many that employ live human beings 24/7 who have something to say and love to have fun on the air. it's sad!
 
Clayton Douglas said:
Yes I suppose some of my comments are trivial. I'm retired and bored. maybe I need to return to the air part time. but there are not many oldies stations left--- darn it!
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Ever thought of a podcast program?
 
Clayton Douglas said:
I have considered oldies internet "radio" or trying to get a local HD2 or HD3 FM channel to go real oldies. who knows! Anything is possible!
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Pod=DIY...don't wait for the corporations.

Here's a service:

podomatic.com

There are many others...
 
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how costly is it to set up an internet "radio" station website? cost of streaming, equipment, fees , etc? fees for music played?
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Streaming is relatively inexpensive from a cost standpoint. I'm confident you'd be able to do it from the computer you're using to post on these message boards.

There's essentially two ways to do it - you can take the audio from a separate source (like if you have a mixing board and/or a home studio) and just put it out there on the web, or you can play the songs directly off of your computer and do your voice breaks with a mic plugged into your sound input port.

If you're already an established station, then of course it's probably the simplest solution to just take Program Out and just start streaming it on Live365 or something. However, for you - you'll probably want to get a radio automation program that will take the mp3s on your computer, set some rules, create a program clock, and interrupt for some voice breaks in a "Live Assist" mode.

At WCUR, I helped the station convert to MegaSeg as an automation solution to do this, but that's for Mac users. TuneTracker is an automation/streaming all-in-one package that, while it may take a little getting used to, was awesome back when I was using it in college. It involves installing BeOS on your computer, but the boot-up time is fantastic and the little thing never stopped working for us. At $200, it's a bargain compared to other automation software.

Basically, you're going to pay more for the ability to create infinite playlists required for 24-hour radio than you are for the actual streaming. Most streaming software is free. You can probably even make your own playlists in Winamp or iTunes and do it that way, if you so chose. That's a little difficult to do for 24 hours a day, every day - so at that point, you may want to consider just recording a podcast like was said earlier.

For streaming, we used Shoutcast to turn around and make that audio available at our IP address. (Usually, it will be something like xxx.xxx.xxx:8000). There are a good set of instructions for setting it up on your computer. It takes some getting used to, but eventually you'll hack your way through it and find that getting your stream up is pretty easy. Live 365 is another way to stream, but it costs $9.95 a month. It seems to include a support system and help getting set up - but you're listed in the site directory, so that's a plus. Check out this link to see how to get going there.

This is a pretty good article with a couple other links to software to get started. I'm around on AIM: carnyfeet if you have any questions about the links above - all software that I've used or researched at some point.
 
Clayton Douglas said:
how costly is it to set up an internet "radio" station website? cost of streaming, equipment, fees , etc? fees for music played?
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I use Shoutcast for broadcasting, and Loudcity to cover my hide for music licensing fees (yes, even talk stations are not immune to these royalties).
 
I've been surprised to find many jocks I worked with in the 60's/70's left jocking and went into radio and tv news anchor work. I guess the answer is simple--- better pay/ benefits/ security. some are even now tv weather anchors. recall Jim O'Brien did weather in Philly on TV6 after being a WFIL jock. very sad Jim died in a parachute accident.
 
Again, I am not a Radio Professional, nor do I play one on TV (sometimes I do stay at Holiday Inn Express)....
Has anyone read "The Cash Cage" by Corey Deitz? Although I am sure many of you went through the same experiences as Corey.

Stuart
 
'Cept for 98.1, the Delaware Valley is pretty devoid of what you're looking for Clayton. But the south Jersey Shore is a "Gold"mine.

Oldies on WMID 1340 Atlantic City, Hybrid MOR/Oldies on WCMC 1230 Wildwood, WVLT 92.1 Vineland (Home of Wee Willie Webber & Geator), WILW 94.3 Wildwood, and market leader in the format for almost 20 years, WTKU "KOOL 98.3" (WFIL's Dick Fennessey, WMID's original Jackson T Chase). Some stations use Satellite overnights, some voice tracked, all are live, contest, promotion and personality driven. Except WMID, which is jukeboxed with "traditional oldies". It's boomer heaven down here. Check the www.kool983.com stream.

The only think that could improve things down here is a fiscal conservative Republican Governor using his/her Line Item veto power! TAXES!
 
Clayton Douglas said:
how costly is it to set up an internet "radio" station website? cost of streaming, equipment, fees , etc? fees for music played?


it's not that costly......it's just frustrating when it comes to compliance, quality of service with effects of comcast, streaming host, lousy correspondence for help assisitance.
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Starbucks said:
Clayton Douglas said:
how costly is it to set up an internet "radio" station website? cost of streaming, equipment, fees , etc? fees for music played?
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it's not that costly......it's just frustrating when it comes to compliance, quality of service with effects of comcast, streaming host, lousy correspondence for help assisitance.
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I have FIOS and haven't had a problem in the nearly two years I've had it. It's far and away the better option when compared to Comcast.

Even if you don't leave Comcast to do streaming, it would probably cost ~$25 to lease server space from a company that would allow you to set up Shoutcast on their box and use it as a repeater.

Your original stream ---> Server (repeater) ----> Listeners
 
Starbucks said:
can you define what is FOIS, and how exactly it works. I can't decipher the acronym. But it sounds interesting.
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Fiber Optic Internet, as opposed to cable delivery. Lots of bandwidth.
 
Starbucks said:
can you define what is FOIS, and how exactly it works. I can't decipher the acronym. But it sounds interesting.
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Just Google "Verizon FiOS" and see if it's available where you live. I have the service as well.
 
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