Johnstown switch

[Spackler]

The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today. Rocky 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and sounds much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the areas where I live and work, so I have no idea what that sounds like.

 

[skycaptain]

> The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today. Rocky
> 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and sounds
> much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the areas
> where I live and work, so I have no idea what that sounds
> like.
>


What does this have to mean about state college - altoona?
Who cares about "Johnstown"?

 

[Spackler]

> > The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today.
> Rocky
> > 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and sounds
> > much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the areas
> > where I live and work, so I have no idea what that sounds
> > like.
> >
>
>
> What does this have to mean about state college - altoona?
> Who cares about "Johnstown"?
>

Sure buddy, whatever.

 

[skycaptain]

> > > The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today.
> > Rocky
> > > 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and
> sounds
> > > much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the
> areas
> > > where I live and work, so I have no idea what that
> sounds
> > > like.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What does this have to mean about state college - altoona?
>
> > Who cares about "Johnstown"?
> >
>
> Sure buddy, whatever.

Thanks for the intelligent insight

 

[skycaptain]

> > > The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today.
> > Rocky
> > > 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and
> sounds
> > > much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the
> areas
> > > where I live and work, so I have no idea what that
> sounds
> > > like.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What does this have to mean about state college - altoona?
>
> > Who cares about "Johnstown"?
> >
>
> Sure buddy, whatever.
>

It's this simple - I don't understand why the altoona - state college market has to have "johnstown" posts? i am sorry if i offended anyone....

 

[fmrgrz]

> > > > The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today.
> > > Rocky
> > > > 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and
> > sounds
> > > > much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the
> > areas
> > > > where I live and work, so I have no idea what that
> > sounds
> > > > like.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What does this have to mean about state college -
> altoona?
> >
> > > Who cares about "Johnstown"?
> > >
> >
> > Sure buddy, whatever.



I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College and Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so what was the reason for the switch? does anybody have that information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it off when they can't get their website on track whatsoever...since WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a simulcast?

 

[Spackler]

> > > > The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today.
> > > Rocky
> > > > 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and
> > sounds
> > > > much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the
> > areas
> > > > where I live and work, so I have no idea what that
> > sounds
> > > > like.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What does this have to mean about state college -
> altoona?
> >
> > > Who cares about "Johnstown"?
> > >
> >
> > Sure buddy, whatever.
>
> Thanks for the intelligent insight

Ok, I'll let you bait me into this.

Regardless of the board title, this board covers the Johnstown-Altoona-State College markets.

State College is 40 miles from Altoona. Johnstown is 50 miles from Altoona.

Johstown is the largest market of the three.

More than one owner has stations in both State College and Johnstown, one has stations in all three markets.

More than one Johnstown station has a strong signal into Altoona, more than one Altoona station has a strong signal into Johnstown. There is shared listening between the markets.

For Television, it is one market.

Perhaps they should change the name of the board.

>

 

[Spackler]

> I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College and
> Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so what
> was the reason for the switch? does anybody have that
> information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it off when
> they can't get their website on track whatsoever...since
> WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a
> simulcast?
>

They took a pretty good hit last time around. Evidently 99.1 gets into Somerset county better than 92.1, and they had better numbers with the classic rock format that they used to do on Wuzz than the active rock they were doing on 92.1. Putting the CHR on 92.1 eliminates the overlap between 100.1 and 99.1. They do have two stations with the Rocky handle, one is Active Rock and one is Classic Rock, so that is a little strange.

 

[radiohunterman]

> I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College and
> Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so what
> was the reason for the switch? does anybody have that
> information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it off when
> they can't get their website on track whatsoever...since
> WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a
> simulcast?
>
Simulcast Johnstown, Altoona, and State College!? What's that gonna do ... kill local radio even more! Those of us in radio that care and are trying to make FM radio a better product than satellite radio would disagree.

I know WGLU had it's heritage but WYOT is here now and has been put threw a lot, so has CHR radio nationwide. I hear it on a regular basis unlike some people that have been out of the market for 2+ years and shouldn't worry about it and I think in recent months the programming change has been for the good, less rap because J-town is't made for that. It's a small white American town and now with local people programming the station that will make a big difference and it will show.

Hot 92 has potential.

 

[fmrgrz]

> > I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College and
> > Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so what
> > was the reason for the switch? does anybody have that
> > information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it off
> when
> > they can't get their website on track whatsoever...since
> > WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> > more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a
> > simulcast?
> >
> Simulcast Johnstown, Altoona, and State College!? What's
> that gonna do ... kill local radio even more! Those of us in
> radio that care and are trying to make FM radio a better
> product than satellite radio would disagree.
>
> I know WGLU had it's heritage but WYOT is here now and has
> been put threw a lot, so has CHR radio nationwide. I hear it
> on a regular basis unlike some people that have been out of
> the market for 2+ years and shouldn't worry about it and I
> think in recent months the programming change has been for
> the good, less rap because J-town is't made for that. It's a
> small white American town and now with local people
> programming the station that will make a big difference and
> it will show.
>
> Hot 92 has potential.
>

It would probably save Forever some money to simulcast . And it would trim the fat and get people out of there that ain't cuttin the mustard anymore.They should let the State College PD or Jon Reed run the 3.And yes I have been gone for 2 years now but it was my first gig and I hate to see it going through rough times...its like an old friend.I was under the impression from the times I heard the new station that it was more rythmic? is it more mainstream now?

 

[atanner23]

> > > I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College and
>
> > > Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so
> what
> > > was the reason for the switch? does anybody have that
> > > information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it off
> > when
> > > they can't get their website on track whatsoever...since
>
> > > WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> > > more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a
> > > simulcast?
> > >
> > Simulcast Johnstown, Altoona, and State College!? What's
> > that gonna do ... kill local radio even more! Those of us
> in
> > radio that care and are trying to make FM radio a better
> > product than satellite radio would disagree.
> >
> > I know WGLU had it's heritage but WYOT is here now and has
>
> > been put threw a lot, so has CHR radio nationwide. I hear
> it
> > on a regular basis unlike some people that have been out
> of
> > the market for 2+ years and shouldn't worry about it and I
>
> > think in recent months the programming change has been for
>
> > the good, less rap because J-town is't made for that. It's
> a
> > small white American town and now with local people
> > programming the station that will make a big difference
> and
> > it will show.
> >
> > Hot 92 has potential.
> >
>
> It would probably save Forever some money to simulcast . And
> it would trim the fat and get people out of there that ain't
> cuttin the mustard anymore.They should let the State College
> PD or Jon Reed run the 3.And yes I have been gone for 2
> years now but it was my first gig and I hate to see it going
> through rough times...its like an old friend.I was under the
> impression from the times I heard the new station that it
> was more rythmic? is it more mainstream now?
>

I disagree with simulcasting the 3 ... it's only asking people to use CD's or go to satellite radio and other sources. Keeping radio local is the only way this medium will survive. Since the switch to Hot 92 it's sounding a lot more like the old Power 99.1 days and less rythmic, probably because it didn't work for Johnstown.

 

[fmrgrz]

> > > > I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College
> and
> >
> > > > Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so
> > what
> > > > was the reason for the switch? does anybody have that
> > > > information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it
> off
> > > when
> > > > they can't get their website on track
> whatsoever...since
> >
> > > > WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> > > > more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a
> > > > simulcast?
> > > >
> > > Simulcast Johnstown, Altoona, and State College!? What's
>
> > > that gonna do ... kill local radio even more! Those of
> us

> > in
> > > radio that care and are trying to make FM radio a better
>
> > > product than satellite radio would disagree.
> > >
> > > I know WGLU had it's heritage but WYOT is here now and
> has
> >
> > > been put threw a lot, so has CHR radio nationwide. I
> hear
> > it
> > > on a regular basis unlike some people that have been out
>
> > of
> > > the market for 2+ years and shouldn't worry about it and
> I
> >
> > > think in recent months the programming change has been
> for
> >
> > > the good, less rap because J-town is't made for that.
> It's
> > a
> > > small white American town and now with local people
> > > programming the station that will make a big difference
> > and
> > > it will show.
> > >
> > > Hot 92 has potential.
> > >
> >
> > It would probably save Forever some money to simulcast .
> And
> > it would trim the fat and get people out of there that
> ain't
> > cuttin the mustard anymore.They should let the State
> College
> > PD or Jon Reed run the 3.And yes I have been gone for 2
> > years now but it was my first gig and I hate to see it
> going
> > through rough times...its like an old friend.I was under
> the
> > impression from the times I heard the new station that it
> > was more rythmic? is it more mainstream now?
> >
>
> I disagree with simulcasting the 3 ... it's only asking
> people to use CD's or go to satellite radio and other
> sources. Keeping radio local is the only way this medium
> will survive. Since the switch to Hot 92 it's sounding a lot
> more like the old Power 99.1 days and less rythmic, probably
> because it didn't work for Johnstown.
>

people listen to the radio for the music...not the personalities. so i dont think that simulcasting will make people look elsewhere for music. local radio is a rare thing these days i agree, but when it comes the jtown mkt...there are only a few on air people in the area that are worth listening to, so why waste $$$$ on staffing 3 stations when you can pay people more money to work than more people less money to work.I think that it may be better for the old GLU to go back to mainstream...when i was there, we were so late adding songs that people wanted to hear and the only explanation was that "we have no competition" when B94 and KISS were able to be heard in the market. that is/was poor reasoning.

 

[SheepDip]

> > The format swap between 99.1 and 92.1 happened today.
> Rocky
> > 99 has dumped the Active Rock for Classic Rock and sounds
> > much like the old Wuzz. I can't receive 92.1 in the areas
> > where I live and work, so I have no idea what that sounds
> > like.
> >
>
>
> What does this have to mean about state college - altoona?
> Who cares about "Johnstown"?
>

Thanks for the intelligent insight.

 

[b344077]

> > > > > I think jtown has to be mentioned with State College
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > > Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same mkts....so
>
> > > what
> > > > > was the reason for the switch? does anybody have
> that
> > > > > information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled it
> > off
> > > > when
> > > > > they can't get their website on track
> > whatsoever...since
> > >
> > > > > WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> > > > > more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103 a
>
> > > > > simulcast?
> > > > >
> > > > Simulcast Johnstown, Altoona, and State College!?
> What's
> >
> > > > that gonna do ... kill local radio even more! Those of
>
> > us
>
> > > in
> > > > radio that care and are trying to make FM radio a
> better
> >
> > > > product than satellite radio would disagree.
> > > >
> > > > I know WGLU had it's heritage but WYOT is here now and
>
> > has
> > >
> > > > been put threw a lot, so has CHR radio nationwide. I
> > hear
> > > it
> > > > on a regular basis unlike some people that have been
> out
> >
> > > of
> > > > the market for 2+ years and shouldn't worry about it
> and
> > I
> > >
> > > > think in recent months the programming change has been
>
> > for
> > >
> > > > the good, less rap because J-town is't made for that.
> > It's
> > > a
> > > > small white American town and now with local people
> > > > programming the station that will make a big
> difference
> > > and
> > > > it will show.
> > > >
> > > > Hot 92 has potential.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It would probably save Forever some money to simulcast .
>
> > And
> > > it would trim the fat and get people out of there that
> > ain't
> > > cuttin the mustard anymore.They should let the State
> > College
> > > PD or Jon Reed run the 3.And yes I have been gone for 2
> > > years now but it was my first gig and I hate to see it
> > going
> > > through rough times...its like an old friend.I was under
>
> > the
> > > impression from the times I heard the new station that
> it
> > > was more rythmic? is it more mainstream now?
> > >
> >
> > I disagree with simulcasting the 3 ... it's only asking
> > people to use CD's or go to satellite radio and other
> > sources. Keeping radio local is the only way this medium
> > will survive. Since the switch to Hot 92 it's sounding a
> lot
> > more like the old Power 99.1 days and less rythmic,
> probably
> > because it didn't work for Johnstown.
> >
>
> people listen to the radio for the music...not the
> personalities. so i dont think that simulcasting will make
> people look elsewhere for music. local radio is a rare thing
> these days i agree, but when it comes the jtown mkt...there
> are only a few on air people in the area that are worth
> listening to, so why waste $$$$ on staffing 3 stations when
> you can pay people more money to work than more people less
> money to work.I think that it may be better for the old GLU
> to go back to mainstream...when i was there, we were so late
> adding songs that people wanted to hear and the only
> explanation was that "we have no competition" when B94 and
> KISS were able to be heard in the market. that is/was poor
> reasoning.
>
Spoken like a sixteen-year-old. People listen to radio for music, news, sports and in various combinations. The reason so many radio stations sound the same is that many lack unique personalities (IE local presense) Just because a Jock says "Altoona", it doesn't means he even knows how to get to a Curve game or that a AA team even exists nor much less cares. Maybe a return to some of the basics would help. Driving down costs can make for short term profitability but in the long run, gutting a station drives the market someplace else.

In my dream world, I would have a low frequency full power AM (like 620Khz) that covers the entire Johnstown/Altoona/State College market. I would program it to be heavy on local news/sports with older jocks who are originally from the area but are now more interested in good schools than picking up dates. It would be paired with a couple of FM's that saturate the market and would operate intandem with split AC formats. The sales force could sell the three together or in any combination.

 

[fmrgrz]

> > > > > > I think jtown has to be mentioned with State
> College
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > Altoona b/c they are pretty much the same
> mkts....so
> >
> > > > what
> > > > > > was the reason for the switch? does anybody have
> > that
> > > > > > information? I am amazed at the fact they pulled
> it
> > > off
> > > > > when
> > > > > > they can't get their website on track
> > > whatsoever...since
> > > >
> > > > > > WGLU's (i still call it GLU)ratings have dropped
> > > > > > more...shouldnt they just make GLU/PRR and Hot 103
> a
> >
> > > > > > simulcast?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Simulcast Johnstown, Altoona, and State College!?
> > What's
> > >
> > > > > that gonna do ... kill local radio even more! Those
> of
> >
> > > us
> >
> > > > in
> > > > > radio that care and are trying to make FM radio a
> > better
> > >
> > > > > product than satellite radio would disagree.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know WGLU had it's heritage but WYOT is here now
> and
> >
> > > has
> > > >
> > > > > been put threw a lot, so has CHR radio nationwide. I
>
> > > hear
> > > > it
> > > > > on a regular basis unlike some people that have been
>
> > out
> > >
> > > > of
> > > > > the market for 2+ years and shouldn't worry about it
>
> > and
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > > think in recent months the programming change has
> been
> >
> > > for
> > > >
> > > > > the good, less rap because J-town is't made for
> that.
> > > It's
> > > > a
> > > > > small white American town and now with local people
> > > > > programming the station that will make a big
> > difference
> > > > and
> > > > > it will show.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hot 92 has potential.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It would probably save Forever some money to simulcast
> .
> >
> > > And
> > > > it would trim the fat and get people out of there that
>
> > > ain't
> > > > cuttin the mustard anymore.They should let the State
> > > College
> > > > PD or Jon Reed run the 3.And yes I have been gone for
> 2
> > > > years now but it was my first gig and I hate to see it
>
> > > going
> > > > through rough times...its like an old friend.I was
> under
> >
> > > the
> > > > impression from the times I heard the new station that
>
> > it
> > > > was more rythmic? is it more mainstream now?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I disagree with simulcasting the 3 ... it's only asking
> > > people to use CD's or go to satellite radio and other
> > > sources. Keeping radio local is the only way this medium
>
> > > will survive. Since the switch to Hot 92 it's sounding a
>
> > lot
> > > more like the old Power 99.1 days and less rythmic,
> > probably
> > > because it didn't work for Johnstown.
> > >
> >
> > people listen to the radio for the music...not the
> > personalities. so i dont think that simulcasting will make
>
> > people look elsewhere for music. local radio is a rare
> thing
> > these days i agree, but when it comes the jtown
> mkt...there
> > are only a few on air people in the area that are worth
> > listening to, so why waste $$$$ on staffing 3 stations
> when
> > you can pay people more money to work than more people
> less
> > money to work.I think that it may be better for the old
> GLU
> > to go back to mainstream...when i was there, we were so
> late
> > adding songs that people wanted to hear and the only
> > explanation was that "we have no competition" when B94 and
>
> > KISS were able to be heard in the market. that is/was poor
>
> > reasoning.
> >
> Spoken like a sixteen-year-old. People listen to radio for
> music, news, sports and in various combinations. The reason
> so many radio stations sound the same is that many lack
> unique personalities (IE local presense) Just because a Jock
> says "Altoona", it doesn't means he even knows how to get to
> a Curve game or that a AA team even exists nor much less
> cares. Maybe a return to some of the basics would help.
> Driving down costs can make for short term profitability but
> in the long run, gutting a station drives the market
> someplace else.
>
> In my dream world, I would have a low frequency full power
> AM (like 620Khz) that covers the entire
> Johnstown/Altoona/State College market. I would program it
> to be heavy on local news/sports with older jocks who are
> originally from the area but are now more interested in good
> schools than picking up dates. It would be paired with a
> couple of FM's that saturate the market and would operate
> intandem with split AC formats. The sales force could sell
> the three together or in any combination.
>


a bit older than 16. thanks. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by fmrgrz on 03/21/06 04:21 PM.</FONT></P>