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Julian Nieh named MOViN 92.5's night host

No advice, but I think it's an interesting move. With the size of the Asian population in Seattle it's good that there's an Asian American on-air in the market. I honestly can't think of another Asian American on any of the major music stations in town but I could be wrong. If that's the case, it's long overdue.

BUT, I also don't know why they won't take the opportunity to grow new youthful talent. Julian has to be in his late 30's at least and Deanna, Kel, Brooke, Jeffrey, Jose are all the same. Hubbard could have found a local influencer with a following and tried to groom them into the next star. If you want to attract 18-34's, maybe put someone on-air that is in that demo.
 
They had two younger people on from 7-mid and mid-5am shortly before this hire. You are absolutely correct though, you can't foster the growth of young local talent unless you allow these individuals to get some on-air experience. With lower listenership in the mid-5am slot, I think that this would be the perfect avenue for a newbie to get some experience.
 
They had two younger people on from 7-mid and mid-5am shortly before this hire. You are absolutely correct though, you can't foster the growth of young local talent unless you allow these individuals to get some on-air experience. With lower listenership in the mid-5am slot, I think that this would be the perfect avenue for a newbie to get some experience.

The problem is that present day multi-station PDs don't have the time to train. If a station has an overnight person, they are only guided when they step out of bounds, are seldom airchecked or given instruction. Voice tracking with the midday person or someone from elsewhere in the company is much easier.

Even back when we did have live overnight jocks, the criteria was that they did not drink or toke on the job, they arrived on time, they did not go to sleep and they never called in sick at the last moment. Sounding good was just a bonus.
 
The problem is that present day multi-station PDs don't have the time to train. If a station has an overnight person, they are only guided when they step out of bounds, are seldom airchecked or given instruction. Voice tracking with the midday person or someone from elsewhere in the company is much easier.

Even back when we did have live overnight jocks, the criteria was that they did not drink or toke on the job, they arrived on time, they did not go to sleep and they never called in sick at the last moment. Sounding good was just a bonus.

Overnight jocks are rare these days, even in most major markets. Too bad, that is where I cut my chops back in the 80's. Great training ground.
 
Overnight jocks are rare these days, even in most major markets. Too bad, that is where I cut my chops back in the 80's. Great training ground.

Out of curiosity... how much guidance did you get? Meetings with the PD, air-check reviews, actual monitoring by the PD, etc...
 
Out of curiosity... how much guidance did you get? Meetings with the PD, air-check reviews, actual monitoring by the PD, etc...
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Actually quite a bit, but this was a major market operation with a great PD. He had access to all on air activity. I can’t speak for smaller markets.
 
The problem is that present day multi-station PDs don't have the time to train. If a station has an overnight person, they are only guided when they step out of bounds, are seldom airchecked or given instruction. Voice tracking with the midday person or someone from elsewhere in the company is much easier.

Even back when we did have live overnight jocks, the criteria was that they did not drink or toke on the job, they arrived on time, they did not go to sleep and they never called in sick at the last moment. Sounding good was just a bonus.

That is true, but how much training is really necessary in the digital age of radio? I wouldn't argue that it would be a great idea to hand over the overnight shift somebody who has no on-air experience, but I would think that a radio newcomer could do a pretty decent job. I feel like in-depth training would be more essential in the "golden age" of radio where nighttime personalities had to have enough skill ans training to run a board with cart machines. You are correct, at that time, the overall personality of the nighttime host wouldn't have been the main concern of a PD or manager. Hubbard Seattle at the very least has a track record of employing younger personalities for overnight programming. I have to give them credit, as you don't see the other major groups in Seattle doing that. I don't think Entercom has any live programming past 10pm in the current era.
 
That is true, but how much training is really necessary in the digital age of radio? I wouldn't argue that it would be a great idea to hand over the overnight shift somebody who has no on-air experience, but I would think that a radio newcomer could do a pretty decent job. I feel like in-depth training would be more essential in the "golden age" of radio where nighttime personalities had to have enough skill ans training to run a board with cart machines. You are correct, at that time, the overall personality of the nighttime host wouldn't have been the main concern of a PD or manager. Hubbard Seattle at the very least has a track record of employing younger personalities for overnight programming. I have to give them credit, as you don't see the other major groups in Seattle doing that. I don't think Entercom has any live programming past 10pm in the current era.

Training is not running the board or the automation system. It's style, knowing what to say, pacing, flow with the music, sounding warm, relating, knowing how to deal with tight segues, all that kind of stuff.

I seldom taught novices. Most people were already in radio and moving to a bigger station or bigger market. Fresno to LA, Arecibo to San Juan, Ibarra to Quito, Mendoza to Buenos Aires or Santo Domingo to New York. Much of the training was adapting to the format, getting rid of bad habits and understanding how to be a part of stationality.

My technique in most cases was to spend an hour or more going over the skimmer, and finding a good moment and one that was not strong. The good moment was played for the talent to insure that they know why I liked it and how they could continue doing that sort of thing. The weak moment was mostly, "if that happened again, how could you do it better?" and then discussing with the announcer how they could get even better.

I still have people I trained 40 to 50 years ago mentioning that to me on Facebook. It's very rewarding.

The toughest challenge is working with someone who is successful and getting them to understand that they can still grow. Otherwise, they fall into tiring routines and slump in the numbers. Since I was pretty terrible on the air myself, I can tell people "I know bad from experience. And if I know bad, I know what good is too."
 
Training is not running the board or the automation system. It's style, knowing what to say, pacing, flow with the music, sounding warm, relating, knowing how to deal with tight segues, all that kind of stuff.

I seldom taught novices. Most people were already in radio and moving to a bigger station or bigger market. Fresno to LA, Arecibo to San Juan, Ibarra to Quito, Mendoza to Buenos Aires or Santo Domingo to New York. Much of the training was adapting to the format, getting rid of bad habits and understanding how to be a part of stationality.

My technique in most cases was to spend an hour or more going over the skimmer, and finding a good moment and one that was not strong. The good moment was played for the talent to insure that they know why I liked it and how they could continue doing that sort of thing. The weak moment was mostly, "if that happened again, how could you do it better?" and then discussing with the announcer how they could get even better.

I still have people I trained 40 to 50 years ago mentioning that to me on Facebook. It's very rewarding.

The toughest challenge is working with someone who is successful and getting them to understand that they can still grow. Otherwise, they fall into tiring routines and slump in the numbers. Since I was pretty terrible on the air myself, I can tell people "I know bad from experience. And if I know bad, I know what good is too."

That is very true, the entire training process cannot be undervalued. Hubbard Media appears to be utilizing a modern approach to this very problem by operating a program called the Hubbard Radio Institute. This program specializes in gathering young people interested in broadcasting, helping them learn practical skills that are applicable in the broadcasting industry, and helping these individuals bridge the gap between amateur/college radio and professional employment.

Back to the original topic - Julian sounds excellent on the night show. Wishing him all the best!
 
Overnight jocks are rare these days, even in most major markets. Too bad, that is where I cut my chops back in the 80's. Great training ground.

KUBE currently has a local overnight host. BennettKnows from 12-6AM. Before him there was another local host named Casey Carter.
 
Just a note, he's not moving here though.

That is true. Broadcasting from home likely will become more common as technology continues to advance. Does this technological advancement make working in radio more appealing for those who may not be willing to move around to chase opportunities? These are interesting conversations to have.
 
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