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K-104 dodges oblivion

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MikeShannon914

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by going from #10 to #8 in the June PPMs. Had they fallen out of the Top 10, it would have been the first time since 1994, and only the second time since 1977.
 
Maybe they would move up even more if they would get a good morning show. Maybe Bay-Bay in the mornings. Any ideals?
 
radioaircheck said:
Numbers went down after Ken Dowe left.
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Number went down because of PPM. K104 was successful BEFORE Ken Dowe got there.
 
Is Ken Dowe the savior or something?
 
bucwhyl said:
Is Ken Dowe the savior or something?
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I don't know Buc, but this ole boy sure seems to pray at the alter of Ken Dowe.
 
Dowe's fellow 'white boy' pal Michael Spears ran it before Ken did...so is the point racial or strictly to do with one's opinion of Dowe? (Dowe, like Spears, was well-versed in the McLendon style of promotions and management...and I'm sure that had a lot to do with Hyman Childs bringing each in. Childs, BTW, was once a salesman for the old KBOX, so he was already familiar with KLIF eating KBOX's lunch regularly over their Top 40 years.) If Dowe and Spears were mainly running the business and promotions end of the station, what was/were the problem(s) you all saw then? I doubt they picked the music.

On a similar subject, and not purposely trying to make this into a racial thing, but my father told me that years and years ago, black listeners had a problem with the old R&B station KNOK-970 being owned by a white person (likely it was Stu Hepburn back then.) I haven't heard anyone take issue in this day and age with a similar situation at K104/KKDA. Does anyone consider it a problem, or is there kind of an understanding out there that it's other people in management that are calling the music and formatic shots, and that Hyman's job is probably to stay consumed with the finances?
 
MikeShannon914 said:
Dowe's fellow 'white boy' pal Michael Spears ran it before Ken did...so is the point racial or strictly to do with one's opinion of Dowe? (Dowe, like Spears, was well-versed in the McLendon style of promotions and management...and I'm sure that had a lot to do with Hyman Childs bringing each in. Childs, BTW, was once a salesman for the old KBOX, so he was already familiar with KLIF eating KBOX's lunch regularly over their Top 40 years.) If Dowe and Spears were mainly running the business and promotions end of the station, what was/were the problem(s) you all saw then? I doubt they picked the music.

On a similar subject, and not purposely trying to make this into a racial thing, but my father told me that years and years ago, black listeners had a problem with the old R&B station KNOK-970 being owned by a white person (likely it was Stu Hepburn back then.) I haven't heard anyone take issue in this day and age with a similar situation at K104/KKDA. Does anyone consider it a problem, or is there kind of an understanding out there that it's other people in management that are calling the music and formatic shots, and that Hyman's job is probably to stay consumed with the finances?
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Most folk prolly don't know who owns Service Broadcasting. My problem with Ken Dowe was how he turned K104 into a "Ghetto" station. Back when Joyner, Scott West, Michael Hernadez, Terri Avery, Warren Epps, Michael Spears, Yvonne St. John were on the air, K104 sounded great. They were polished air personalities. Mr. Dowe may have read the paper right when K104 changed the demographics, but he ran off some loyal listeners. Radioaircheck makes it seem like KKDA-FM was a pissant station before Ken Dowe arrived. I am a Michael Spears fan. He ran a tight ship when he was the PD. The glory days of K104 happened when Spears was the PD.

That is my opinion.
 
ok, first of all.. I NEVER said K104 was a pissant statoin before Ken Dowe got there. What I am saying it did well while he was there, even if he did change the demographics. They had been number 1 for quite a while, so he must have been doing something right. They held of 100.3 Jamz which was a good station as well. 100.3 Jamz was given up on too easy, even when the relauncehed it. Now with the new PPM you are going to see a lot of things change.
 
radioaircheck said:
ok, first of all.. I NEVER said K104 was a pissant statoin before Ken Dowe got there. What I am saying it did well while he was there, even if he did change the demographics. They had been number 1 for quite a while, so he must have been doing something right. They held of 100.3 Jamz which was a good station as well. 100.3 Jamz was given up on too easy, even when the relauncehed it. Now with the new PPM you are going to see a lot of things change.
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Jamz was kicking 104's arse before Ken Dowe got there. The perception of your posts is that K104 was bad before Dowe.
 
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