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K-Earth PD

Re: who they really need is...

Right. Drake's philosophy wasn't "Shut up and play the music", it was "If you're going to say something, be damn sure it's entertaining." Those who don't know better today think that KRTH is doing a "Drake format" because they're still using KHJ-inspired jingles.

- Doc


> By the way what KRTH is doing now shouldn't be considered
> the Drake format, I don't see it. I just hear a very liner-
> tight, station based on brevity & repetition.
 
Re: who they really need is...

> I agree with you to a point. But Drake's format mechanics
> and revolutionary sweeps,emphasis on forward motion, and
> total control of inventory, & removal of clutter
> made it possible for Ron Jacobs to make KHJ the
> greatest Top 40 in history.

Remember, Drake and Jacobs clashed in Fresno, and what was put on the air in LA in 65 was very much a mix of Drakes mechanics and Jacobs' creativity.

The idea of limited commercial time, lack of clutter and speed was not new in '65. I had a Top 40 a full year earlier with 10 minute commercial limit, and essentially the same resultant mechanics. And I was not the first one to do this... WFUN in Miami was starting to beat WQAM iwith a similar approach in early '65.
 
> Someone ask who would be a good PD for K-EARTH.
>
> 1:Jerry Clifton
> 2:Don Kelly
> 3:Joe McCoy
> 4:Guy Zapoleon
> 5:Steve Rivers
>
Me. Nuff said.
 
Re: who they really need is./Eduardo format..

With all due respect, there is a reason its called the Drake format
& not the Eduardo format. Drake was the first to A) Take the station
control away from sales B) Utilize format motion with quick jingles
and talk limited to song intros during a " in a row" sweep C) Tight
playlist, hour openers were often uptempo songs, while Top 40 competitor
was in news. Drake was doing this in Fresno and San Diego as early
as 1963. But you're right, the clash of the titans in Fresno set
up KHJ. Drake said that KMAK or KYNO could have likely beat anyone
in the country at that time.



> > I agree with you to a point. But Drake's format mechanics
> > and revolutionary sweeps,emphasis on forward motion, and
> > total control of inventory, & removal of clutter
> > made it possible for Ron Jacobs to make KHJ the
> > greatest Top 40 in history.
>
> Remember, Drake and Jacobs clashed in Fresno, and what was
> put on the air in LA in 65 was very much a mix of Drakes
> mechanics and Jacobs' creativity.
>
> The idea of limited commercial time, lack of clutter and
> speed was not new in '65. I had a Top 40 a full year earlier
> with 10 minute commercial limit, and essentially the same
> resultant mechanics. And I was not the first one to do
> this... WFUN in Miami was starting to beat WQAM iwith a
> similar approach in early '65.
>
 
> Me. Nuff said.

I think not "nuff said".

Who are you and why do you believe you are qualified?<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: who they really need is./Eduardo format..

> With all due respect, there is a reason its called the Drake
> format
> & not the Eduardo format.

Mostly, this was because no one gave a darn about a Top 40 in Ecuador that was limited to less than 10 minutes of commercial time, had no sales influence on programming, had shotgun jingles (I could not afford anything more elaborite) and focused the jocks on momentum and zero meaningless chat.

As I said, there were other stations doing this pre-Drake. Drake made the name because he was in the right place at the right time and did some incredible turn-arounds on some stodgy formats. But he would not have done it without folks like Rounds and Jacobs... remember, Rounds went on to invent barter syndication with American Top 40... so he was no slouch.

If you want to hear very good pre-Drake focused radio, listen to the KPOI from the early 60-s when Jacobs and Rounds were two of the Poi Boys. Amazingly good radio, but in a market that nobody noticed.

> Drake was the first to A) Take the
> station
> control away from sales B) Utilize format motion with quick
> jingles
> and talk limited to song intros during a " in a row" sweep
> C) Tight
> playlist, hour openers were often uptempo songs, while Top
> 40 competitor
> was in news. Drake was doing this in Fresno and San Diego as
> early
> as 1963. But you're right, the clash of the titans in Fresno
> set
> up KHJ. Drake said that KMAK or KYNO could have likely beat
> anyone
> in the country at that time.

Nah. There were many really good stations, but they were just not in the markets that had media attention.
 
Re: who they really need is./Eduardo format..

I would like to hear an aircheck of your Ecuador station, sounds
great. Rounds and Jacobs were terrific, but the bottom line is
that Bill Drake was successful at KYNO and then took last place
KGB into first. This lead to his hiring at KHJ, and thus Jacobs
installment as PD. but let's not rewrite history, nobody was
doing what Drake was doing at the time. "Right place at the right
time" Maybe, you could said that about one who is successful. But
he had the balls, brains, and tenacity to pull it off. I've heard
KPOI and enjoyed it with Jacobs doing mornings. But I also heard
Jacobs when he programmed KGB-AM in 1974 attempt to compete with
KCBQ, with a Top 40 approach. The mechanics were lame, often no
rap,or calls even out of stop sets. Drake on the other hand invented
the modern template we still use today in many stations. Jacobs
was far more creative and diverse, but Bill had the x's and o's.


> Mostly, this was because no one gave a darn about a Top 40
> in Ecuador that was limited to less than 10 minutes of
> commercial time, had no sales influence on programming, had
> shotgun jingles (I could not afford anything more elaborite)
> and focused the jocks on momentum and zero meaningless chat.
>
>
> As I said, there were other stations doing this pre-Drake.
> Drake made the name because he was in the right place at the
> right time and did some incredible turn-arounds on some
> stodgy formats. But he would not have done it without folks
> like Rounds and Jacobs... remember, Rounds went on to invent
> barter syndication with American Top 40... so he was no
> slouch.
>
> If you want to hear very good pre-Drake focused radio,
> listen to the KPOI from the early 60-s when Jacobs and
> Rounds were two of the Poi Boys. Amazingly good radio, but
> in a market that nobody noticed.
>
> > Drake was the first to A) Take the
> > station
> > control away from sales B) Utilize format motion with
> quick
> > jingles
> > and talk limited to song intros during a " in a row" sweep
>
> > C) Tight
> > playlist, hour openers were often uptempo songs, while Top
>
> > 40 competitor
> > was in news. Drake was doing this in Fresno and San Diego
> as
> > early
> > as 1963. But you're right, the clash of the titans in
> Fresno
> > set
> > up KHJ. Drake said that KMAK or KYNO could have likely
> beat
> > anyone
> > in the country at that time.
>
> Nah. There were many really good stations, but they were
> just not in the markets that had media attention.
>
 
Re: who they really need is./Eduardo format..

> Jacobs
> was far more creative and diverse, but Bill had the x's and
> o's.

Could we then agree that it was the combination of the two that led to the success of KHJ, so this debate can end?<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: K-Earth PD/Catfish

> > By the way Catfish, I admire your work.
> >
> > > > Bill Drake & Ron Jacobs
> > > >
> > > > Special projects would be the perfect place for them.
> > > Their
> > > > knowledge
> > > > of KHJ and early LA radio in general should be used.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I totally agree the "sound" or "presentation of
> K-Earth
> > > > needs to be changed.
> > > > Make it a 70's/80's station. Choose your 60's hits
> > > > carefully. Hire Rick
> > > > Dees! Has anyone even made the effort at KRTH to hire
> > him.
> > >
> > > > He's a
> > > > FAMILIAR NAME with the audience KRTH wants. They
> > listened
> > > to
> > > > him on
> > > > KIIS and maybe that brief KHJ show he did.
> > >
> > >
> > > Excellent idea. Rick Dees would be a natural fit for
> > > K-Earth. As for the comments about Jerry Clifton. I have
>
> > > worked with him. True, he's mostly been involved with
> > > Dance/Urban but I've sat down and listened to him many a
>
> > > time and can assure you he is a well rounded programmer.
>
> > He
> > > knows So. Calif inside out with the Oldies and he has
> one
> > of
> > > the most creative minds no matter what format he does
> and
> > he
> > > DOES work with veteran pd's and talents along with the
> > > younger ones. Hell someone has to teach these up and
> > coming
> > > green horns :)
> > >
> > > Just my 2cents forwhat it's worth
>
>
> I think we can all agree that most of the people everyone
> has named had something to do with the sucess of KHJ and
> K-EARTH. Everyone has brought something to the table.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


RIGHT Again Fish

John Steel
 
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