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Rest of Arizona K-Love acquires 95.1 KTTI & 100.9 KQSR in Yuma leaving KJLZ 93.1 as lone commercial English station

SomeRadioGuy said:
K love pays local property t axes where applicable.
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Big deal. The property taxes on the average transmitter site (which, in the absence of studios and offices, is all they can potentially own in any market) are going to be minimal. Probably less than one listener's "donations" for the year.

SomeRadioGuy said:
Why is it Kloves job to know who theyre putting out of work when they buy a local station? I would be pissed if I worked for a station that got sold and it cost me my job./ But.. their business model doesnt include having local staff.
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It isn't their responsibility to know precisely who. But that doesn't excuse the fact that those "whos" existed before they came in and sent them all to the unemployment office. Their business model is not Christian, for exactly that reason.

I would be less hostile toward them if they maintained local studios, offices, and staff. But they do not, and that has contributed mightily toward their being so out-of-control bloated financially.

What they do is Christian in name only. Their very business model would likely be compared by Jesus to the moneychangers in the temple (reference Matthew 21:12-13,Mark 11:15-18). They are likely responsible for more job losses than iHeart and Audacy combined.

SomeRadioGuy said:
Here i am, sitting in one of the studios for 4 stations owned by a local guy who never left town.,. im not advocating for what Klove does, but looking at it from a business perspective.. theyre not doing anything wrong.. and no hate is ever flung at the sellers in these cases
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Take off those blinders, Paul. Please.

And I already agreed with you that we do not give the sellers' as much scrutiny as we should, and I have already called for that to happen. Don't cite points of agreement as an argument, please.
 
K.M. Richards said:
What they do is Christian in name only. Their very business model would likely be compared by Jesus to the moneychangers in the temple (reference Matthew 21:12-13,Mark 11:15-18). They are likely responsible for more job losses than iHeart and Audacy combined.
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At some point, Matthew 7:1 is going to be invoked here: "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Evangelicals seem to consider it a get-out-of-jail-free card of sorts, absolving themselves of any negative accusations that may be flung at them.
 
CTListener said:
At some point, Matthew 7:1 is going to be invoked here: "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Evangelicals seem to consider it a get-out-of-jail-free card of sorts, absolving themselves of any negative accusations that may be flung at them.
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I rather doubt that calling out a lack of adherence to Scripture counts for that purpose.

He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. (Matthew 26:26-52).
 
K.M. Richards said:
Big deal. The property taxes on the average transmitter site (which, in the absence of studios and offices, is all they can potentially own in any market) are going to be minimal. Probably less than one listener's "donations" for the year.



It isn't their responsibility to know precisely who. But that doesn't excuse the fact that those "whos" existed before they came in and sent them all to the unemployment office. Their business model is not Christian, for exactly that reason.

I would be less hostile toward them if they maintained local studios, offices, and staff. But they do not, and that has contributed mightily toward their being so out-of-control bloated financially.
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What about when Emmis sold stations to Radio One and let go employees? Thats no different

I'm not a klove listener, i dont donate to them. i try to look at things from an even keeled business and legal perspective in cases like this even if i dont agree with the M.O.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
K love pays local property t axes where applicable.
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And they pay their share of benefits and Social Security for person or two that remain locally, such as engineering. They still have to get all the permits and licenses that any church does have to pay.

Considering that about half of all "commercial stations" don't pay income taxes because that is the percentage that are not profitable, "that they don't pay income taxes" is overly broad.
SomeRadioGuy said:
Why is it Kloves job to know who theyre putting out of work when they buy a local station? I would be pissed if I worked for a station that got sold and it cost me my job./ But.. their business model doesnt include having local staff.
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And I see over and over stations... small markets or small station in the fringe areas of big markets... that just have one or two employees plus the owner and a contract engineer.

On the other hand, reducing the excessive number of stations gives the remaining ones a better chance at being profitable. Again, for decades half of all stations in the U.S. have not been profitable, so thinning the herd now, when listening levels are down about 75% when compared with the year 2000, this makes sense.
SomeRadioGuy said:
Here i am, sitting in one of the studios for 4 stations owned by a local guy who never left town.,. im not advocating for what Klove does, but looking at it from a business perspective.. theyre not doing anything wrong.. and no hate is ever flung at the sellers in these cases
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And a big question is "who might want those stations" if K-Love did not step in? The fact that the EMF/K-Love folks are turning off the AM indicates that, possibly, nobody wants that very decent AM station...
 
davideduardo said:
And I see over and over stations... small markets or small station in the fringe areas of big markets... that just have one or two employees plus the owner and a contract engineer.
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You kinda just described where I work... 4 stations, the owner, me, a front office person, a sales person, a traffic person and a remote VT'er
 
davideduardo said:
And they pay their share of benefits and Social Security for person or two that remain locally, such as engineering. They still have to get all the permits and licenses that any church does have to pay.

Considering that about half of all "commercial stations" don't pay income taxes because that is the percentage that are not profitable, "that they don't pay income taxes" is overly broad.

And I see over and over stations... small markets or small station in the fringe areas of big markets... that just have one or two employees plus the owner and a contract engineer.

On the other hand, reducing the excessive number of stations gives the remaining ones a better chance at being profitable. Again, for decades half of all stations in the U.S. have not been profitable, so thinning the herd now, when listening levels are down about 75% when compared with the year 2000, this makes sense.

And a big question is "who might want those stations" if K-Love did not step in? The fact that the EMF/K-Love folks are turning off the AM indicates that, possibly, nobody wants that very decent AM station...
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EMF/K-Love did not buy the AM KBLU. El Dorado Broadcasters took it silent. Maybe another broadcaster will buy it.
 
Frequency1 said:
EMF/K-Love did not buy the AM KBLU. El Dorado Broadcasters took it silent. Maybe another broadcaster will buy it.
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I did not see that aspect. But in either case, the owner could not sell it and chose not to keep it on the air, indicating that the market is rather limited in revenue.
 
K.M. Richards said:
It is, because there were still some local jobs kept at those stations. With EMF/K-Love, no such thing, ever.
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At the very real risk of beating a dead horse, if we look at the total employment of EMF which includes their larger program staff and all the counseling and outreach they do, they have around 600 employees. Add in the "on call" engineers and service providers, they likely represent income for over 1,000 persons and their families.

Considering that many of their stations are translators that would not have staff anyway, that is not an insignificant number of jobs that they present.

And in many, although not all of their coverage areas, they have local outreach staff that organizes events and other activities they describe on their website.

I am not fond of their format or its music. But I am not fond of alternative rock music and stations that program it, either. But I do give them credit for lessening the competition for local advertising dollars and for giving an alternative format for many people who do like their offerings.
 
1000 employees nationwide hardly makes up for local staff losses in dozens of markets over the years.

And I think you had best doublecheck your sources, David. They have far more full-power signals than they do translators.
 
This all really comes down to a First Amendment matter. It's been very well established that the FCC (even this particular FCC) can't impose different rules on different stations based on any kind of content judgment.

So once the main studio rule went away completely - and really, once the FCC began routinely granting waivers to non-commercial stations to allow things like statewide public radio networks, for good and valid public interest reasons - there was no legal, Constitutional way to differentiate between what K-Love does and what Utah Public Radio does.

More broadly, deregulation over the last half of the history of radio has removed almost every bit of the teeth the FCC once had to regulate the business affairs of any radio station. They can't tell ANY radio station how many people it must employ or where they have to be located.

At this point, passing any rules that would restore that regulation would be fought by more than just K-Love. Plenty of small commercial stations (and public radio, too) would probably be forced to turn off their signals in today's economy.

Finally, as an administrative note: we can discuss religious radio here all we want. When the conversation starts to stray into religion itself, it's off-topic and will be shut down quickly. Thanks.
 
davideduardo said:
I did not see that aspect. But in either case, the owner could not sell it and chose not to keep it on the air, indicating that the market is rather limited in revenue.
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It was pointed out to me by another poster, that KLJZ and KTTI were sold together for only $375,000. A sign that the market is indeed rather limited in revenue.
 
Z93 is doing 2 hours of 60s to 90s classic hits 4 to 6pm friday
the AM is going to be real country.. 80s 90s real country instead of classic country
 
KTTI was bought more for the mexico audience than the Yuma audience
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
KTTI was bought more for the mexico audience than the Yuma audience
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[citation needed]

Does K-Love have any mechanism right now to take donor money from Mexico? The 800 numbers they give out don't work from Mexico.

There's plenty of Spanish-speaking population on the US side of the border to make KTTI viable even without taking in a single peso from Mexican listeners.
 
fybush said:
[citation needed]

Does K-Love have any mechanism right now to take donor money from Mexico? The 800 numbers they give out don't work from Mexico.

There's plenty of Spanish-speaking population on the US side of the border to make KTTI viable even without taking in a single peso from Mexican listeners.
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Radio Nueva vida has a mexico number.. citation is from someone in Yuma who spoke to one of their engineers
 
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