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K-Mozart is back on 1260

KilowattKat said:
So were the KMZT calls parked somewhere while it was KKGO-AM? If not, Saul was lucky to be able to get them back, before being requested by another broadcaster.
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They were not. They were technically up for grabs from December 1, 2020 until today.

Seems obvious to me that no one else wants them.
 
K.M. Richards said:
First, Ted, I know it was probably an inadvertent choice of words because you know better, but it isn't the FCC that has to "find a place" for a transmitter, it is the responsibility of the applicant and includes engineering studies to prove non-interference.
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Actually, I didn't know so thank you for the lesson. When I was in college, while I was taught that AM broadcasters had to find available frequencies and then petition the FCC, the same didn't hold true for FM or TV stations; for them, I was told that the FCC created a table of frequency allotments for every city (and many smaller communities) in the U.S. and then had potential broadcasters seek those frequencies. (today I understand it's done through an auction but I can't remember how it was done back in 1981 when I first learned of the practice.) I know that those allotment tables are still used (the auctions I mentioned in my last sentence) but that potential and current broadcasters can seek to have individual allotments changed in order to better serve moving populations.

What I missed (and what you pointed out to me) was that the system for allocating full power FM and TV stations was not used for translators and, though we haven't discussed it, LPFM outlets either. So again, thank you for the correction.
 
Is he running a syndicated service with hosts? It sounds like it. If so, which service is it?

EDIT: it appears that he’s running Classical 24
A very interesting change this time around
 
ted chittenden said:
Actually, I didn't know so thank you for the lesson. When I was in college, while I was taught that AM broadcasters had to find available frequencies and then petition the FCC, the same didn't hold true for FM or TV stations; for them, I was told that the FCC created a table of frequency allotments for every city (and many smaller communities) in the U.S. and then had potential broadcasters seek those frequencies. (today I understand it's done through an auction but I can't remember how it was done back in 1981 when I first learned of the practice.) I know that those allotment tables are still used (the auctions I mentioned in my last sentence) but that potential and current broadcasters can seek to have individual allotments changed in order to better serve moving populations.

What I missed (and what you pointed out to me) was that the system for allocating full power FM and TV stations was not used for translators and, though we haven't discussed it, LPFM outlets either. So again, thank you for the correction.
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You have it correct now, Ted. Happy to have helped clear it up for you.

Your college instructor was correct ... at that time. An application for an AM station placed the entire responsibility for finding an open frequency and then submitting engineering studies to prove that frequency could be used where you wanted to use it on the applicant. That process is long gone and I do not think there will even be another auction for open AM frequencies, after the one in St. Louis that was held for licenses the FCC cancelled for various violations ... no one bid on any of the frequencies.

FM does have an allocation table, and back in the day anyone could apply for any open allocation, subject to the pre-determined Class for that frequency. Now, the FCC periodically looks at the table and decides when to auction off those frequencies. That is the only time they accept new applications, and (obviously) only from the winning bidders.

LPFMs and translators also have filing windows for new stations, and in those cases the applicant still has to find a frequency and submit documentation that the low-power service will fit without interference. Again, no applications are accepted outside of those windows; in fact, I just today ran across a couple of idiots up in Oregon who tried to apply for a new LPFM by using the application for a FM booster. Took no time at all for the Media Bureau to say "uhhhh, no".
 
K.M. Richards said:
First, Ted, I know it was probably an inadvertent choice of words because you know better, but it isn't the FCC that has to "find a place" for a transmitter, it is the responsibility of the applicant and includes engineering studies to prove non-interference.

That being said, the map for K252FO at FCCdata.org shows the translator being adjacent to the Los Angeles Reservoir in Sylmar, near the point where the 405 freeway separates from the 5.

I checked the maps for both KDAR and KRCV against that map, and the protected contour for the Oxnard station is entirely within Ventura County. The translator has a signal contour entirely within the San Fernando Valley. For KRCV, the protected contour ends around Glendale and the translator stops just short of Burbank in that direction.

So while it's a tight fit, it's legal ... despite your presumptions.
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The site is also shared by KBUA 94.3 and KOCP (Camarillo) 104.7's 2 kW booster station.
 
TomásEstefan said:
The site is also shared by KBUA 94.3 and KOCP (Camarillo) 104.7's 2 kW booster station.
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KOCP's COL is Oxnard. I think you got confused by the call letter swap with KCAQ in 2016. It's on 95.9 now, COL Camarillo.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
KMozart sounds better as a word and makes for better call letters. KBCH is taken and what would you pick for calls on KBeethoven, which is a mouthful.
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EMF's WNKC Gloucester, MA, was called "W-Bach" -- WBOQ -- during its classical years. As for Beethoven, isn't there a satellite-delivered service called Beethoven Radio? I remember it being on 1290 AM in Hartford at one time, but the call was WCCC(AM).
 
CTListener said:
EMF's WNKC Gloucester, MA, was called "W-Bach" -- WBOQ -- during its classical years. As for Beethoven, isn't there a satellite-delivered service called Beethoven Radio? I remember it being on 1290 AM in Hartford at one time, but the call was WCCC(AM).
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It's been rebranded now (because that's what we do here, we rebrand stations more than Saul flips formats on 1260) but the UK's third classical station used to be called Scala Radio, which was quite a nice name - not associated with any particular composer, but with a nod to La Scala opera house, and musical scales. The other commercial classical station is the right-on-the-nose "Classic FM".
 
CTListener said:
EMF's WNKC Gloucester, MA, was called "W-Bach" -- WBOQ -- during its classical years. As for Beethoven, isn't there a satellite-delivered service called Beethoven Radio? I remember it being on 1290 AM in Hartford at one time, but the call was WCCC(AM).
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There was a W-Bach network in New England at one point when Nassau Broadcasting was still around. I think it was mostly in Maine, perhaps NH too.
 
CTListener said:
As for Beethoven, isn't there a satellite-delivered service called Beethoven Radio?
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radionetwork.wfmt.com

Beethoven Network | Programs | WFMT Radio Network

Playlists for this program can be found on the right-hand side of the page. Please note that all times listed are in Eastern Time. The highly successful classical music radio format service of the WFMT Radio Network, the Beethoven Network, celebrates over three decades of service and continues...
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Mediafrog+ said:
radionetwork.wfmt.com

Beethoven Network | Programs | WFMT Radio Network

Playlists for this program can be found on the right-hand side of the page. Please note that all times listed are in Eastern Time. The highly successful classical music radio format service of the WFMT Radio Network, the Beethoven Network, celebrates over three decades of service and continues...
radionetwork.wfmt.com radionetwork.wfmt.com
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IT used to be in the basement of Asylum Ave in Hartford .. was a Marlin owned service that was indeed simulcast on WCCC-AM with stern in the mornign and classical the rest of the day.
 
The Bach network in New England was preceded by the 'NCN" network. Over the air relay form WNCN in new York. Affiliates had 'CN' in their call letters. WHCN in Hartford for instance.
 
Miss Tuned said:
It's been rebranded now (because that's what we do here, we rebrand stations more than Saul flips formats on 1260) but the UK's third classical station used to be called Scala Radio, which was quite a nice name - not associated with any particular composer, but with a nod to La Scala opera house, and musical scales. The other commercial classical station is the right-on-the-nose "Classic FM".
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If WRKO took classical in 1981 then WMOZART would be it’s name
 
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