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K-Rock is gone, but no announcement for Boston???

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With the official announcement that WXRK 92.3 (K-Rock) will be disappearing in NYC, one wonders how much longer for the merger of WBCN-WZLX...interesting that neither station was mentioned in the Free FM mess...could this be because Infinity is still trying to snag Severin away from WTKK? Or is there another reason?


Infinity Confirms Howard Stern Replacements


After months of speculation, Infinity Broadcasting has confirmed that the replacements for Stern — who will air his final broadcast radio show on Dec. 16 — will be current Loveline host Adam Carolla and former Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth. Both will both debut in their new morning roles on Jan. 3; Roth from WXRK/New York and Carolla from KLSX/Los Angeles.

Additional markets to broadcast Roth include KLLI/Dallas, WYSP/Philadelphia, WBCN/Boston, WRKZ/Pittsburgh, WNCX/Cleveland and WPBZ/West Palm Beach. Carolla will also be heard on KIFR/San Francisco (formerly KEAR-FM), KPLN/San Diego, KZON/Phoenix, KUFO/Portland and KXTE/Las Vegas.

ABC-TV late-night host Jimmy Kimmel will serve as a creative consultant to Carolla's West Coast-based radio show as well as an advisor to Infinity. Kimmel will assist in the development of new talent and show ideas for the company and make guest appearances on Carolla's program.

Concurrently, Infinity has launched "Free FM" in seven of the company's top 10 markets. Beginning today, KIFR/San Francisco, WYSP/Philadelphia and KPLN/San Diego will convert to Free FM programming, which offers listeners a combination of local and national talk personalities. Also, KLSX/Los Angeles, WCKG/Chicago; KLLI/Dallas; WJFK/Washington, DC; WKRK/Detroit; and WHFS/Baltimore have all been rebranded Free FM. WXRK/New York will debut as Free FM in conjunction with Roth’s premiere in January 2006.
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

Yes I know that...that's what I implied...there was no announcement about any changes in Boston...there has still been speculation that either BCN or more likely ZLX would be flipped to Free-FM with the music of the two consolidated onto the other signal. I can read and know that it said no Boston station was listed. Does this mean that Free-FM is not coming to Boston (perhaps if we're lucky) or that they just haven't decided yet...that was the point...

~RM
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.

I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on 'BCN.

I think it's more likely that come January 3rd, Roth will be heard on 100.7, which will probably end up being "Free FM Boston", with new call letters to match.

Besides, I agree with many who in recent weeks have suggested on this board that Roth would not be a good fit for a station like 'BCN, even if it were to become a hybrid classic/modern rocker. He'd be a much better fit for "Free FM", or even an all-classic rocker.
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

> Infinity's Press Release says that WBCN will be carrying
> David Lee Roth, but will not flip to FREE-FM.
> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051025/nytu131.html?.v=33
>
> At the end of the article is a list of Inifinity Stations
> and what format they will have and what morning show they
> will run.
>
More details at Boston Radio Watch. Yup WBCN will do music after
Roth's show (taking over for Stern) ends at 10.

http://www.bostonradiowatch.com
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

> Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be
> heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.
>
> I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and
> WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock
> hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current
> WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on
> 'BCN.
>
> I think it's more likely that come January 3rd, Roth will be
> heard on 100.7, which will probably end up being "Free FM
> Boston", with new call letters to match.
>
> Besides, I agree with many who in recent weeks have
> suggested on this board that Roth would not be a good fit
> for a station like 'BCN, even if it were to become a hybrid
> classic/modern rocker. He'd be a much better fit for "Free
> FM", or even an all-classic rocker.

I'm not sure about either case:

On one hand, WBCN and WZLX are doing fine in regards to billing and market acceptance.

On the other hand, Infinity isn't afraid to change many of these markets. We all saw the change of WCBS-FM, and I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if one of Infinity's Boston rockers changed format.

Does anyone think that Roth will last? I'm frankly not all that sure he will be anywhere near as successful as Stern. If so, and WBCN's numbers and billing begin a downward slump post-Stern, perhaps Infinity will create "104.1 Free FM". Only time will tell.
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

Given your track record with your predictions, I think both stations can breathe a sigh of relief that nothing is changing now that you have predicted they will.

Honestly, when will you stop with your speculation when you have no basis of fact to back up anything you predict other than you think it might happen?

You are definition of S.P.E.R.M!

Self
Proclaimed
Expert on
Radio and
Music

Just stop now - you make those of us who are actually in the loop out LOFAO!


> Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be
> heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.
>
> I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and
> WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock
> hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current
> WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on
> 'BCN.
>
> I think it's more likely that come January 3rd, Roth will be
> heard on 100.7, which will probably end up being "Free FM
> Boston", with new call letters to match.
>
> Besides, I agree with many who in recent weeks have
> suggested on this board that Roth would not be a good fit
> for a station like 'BCN, even if it were to become a hybrid
> classic/modern rocker. He'd be a much better fit for "Free
> FM", or even an all-classic rocker.
>
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

> Given your track record with your predictions, I think both
> stations can breathe a sigh of relief that nothing is
> changing now that you have predicted they will.
>
> Honestly, when will you stop with your speculation when you
> have no basis of fact to back up anything you predict other
> than you think it might happen?
>
> You are definition of S.P.E.R.M!
>
> Self
> Proclaimed
> Expert on
> Radio and
> Music
>
> Just stop now - you make those of us who are actually in the
> loop out LOFAO!

Actually I always enjoy reading Joe's posts. While not always accurate, he always has some interesting speculation...and they are usually well thought out...Same with Eli Polonski....

>
>
> > Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be
> > heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.
> >
> > I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and
> > WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock
>
> > hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current
> > WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on
> > 'BCN.
> >
> > I think it's more likely that come January 3rd, Roth will
> be
> > heard on 100.7, which will probably end up being "Free FM
> > Boston", with new call letters to match.
> >
> > Besides, I agree with many who in recent weeks have
> > suggested on this board that Roth would not be a good fit
> > for a station like 'BCN, even if it were to become a
> hybrid
> > classic/modern rocker. He'd be a much better fit for "Free
>
> > FM", or even an all-classic rocker.
> >
>
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

Here in Philadelphia, where I live now, they have flipped WYSP to "free fm". In the last 9 months, we have gone from 3 full time rock stations to 1. The only alternative rock hanging on is being podcast/webcast on www.y100rocks.com. Funny enough, we get a lot of tickets to give away from all the rock acts who come through and don't have a station to promote them on the radio.
This brings up another point - don't you think that the record labels must be pretty ticked off at all this - especially in a very hurting music industry as it is? Who's going to promote the shows and cd releases on the "free fm" stations?

Do you think personalities like Roth can really carry a large audience like Stern could? I feel that people really don't want to listen to "hot talk" all day on the radio. Part of Stern's appeal was that he was on in the morning for a finite amount of time each day. How much talk can rock listeners really handle? Only time will tell I guess.

I never think it's a good idea to change formats of a station like WBCN (or WYSP for that matter down here). For now, at least, I'm happy that BCN is "free fm" free.


> > Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be
> > heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.
> >
> > I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and
> > WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock
>
> > hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current
> > WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on
> > 'BCN.
> >
> > I think it's more likely that come January 3rd, Roth will
> be
> > heard on 100.7, which will probably end up being "Free FM
> > Boston", with new call letters to match.
> >
> > Besides, I agree with many who in recent weeks have
> > suggested on this board that Roth would not be a good fit
> > for a station like 'BCN, even if it were to become a
> hybrid
> > classic/modern rocker. He'd be a much better fit for "Free
>
> > FM", or even an all-classic rocker.
>
> I'm not sure about either case:
>
> On one hand, WBCN and WZLX are doing fine in regards to
> billing and market acceptance.
>
> On the other hand, Infinity isn't afraid to change many of
> these markets. We all saw the change of WCBS-FM, and I
> wouldn't be incredibly surprised if one of Infinity's Boston
> rockers changed format.
>
> Does anyone think that Roth will last? I'm frankly not all
> that sure he will be anywhere near as successful as Stern.
> If so, and WBCN's numbers and billing begin a downward slump
> post-Stern, perhaps Infinity will create "104.1 Free FM".
> Only time will tell.
>
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

> Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be
> heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.
>
> I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and
> WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock
> hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current
> WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on
> 'BCN.
>
> I think it's more likely that come January 3rd, Roth will be
> heard on 100.7, which will probably end up being "Free FM
> Boston", with new call letters to match.
>
> Besides, I agree with many who in recent weeks have
> suggested on this board that Roth would not be a good fit
> for a station like 'BCN, even if it were to become a hybrid
> classic/modern rocker. He'd be a much better fit for "Free
> FM", or even an all-classic rocker.
>
Wrong! Infinity's press releases indicate that WBCN will carry Roth in the morning and active rock for the rest of the day. Now, what they refer to as "active rock" is available for interpretation.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't hold my breath for your theory to pan out any time soon.

I suppose it all has to do with a discussion on another string (above) about how Boston has only a limited number of FM alltoments. We just don't have very many that are struggling and the ones that are seem to be devoted to their respective formats for reasons that aren't easily infulenced by ratings.

WBCN and WZLX are not doing great, but they're not doing badly either. They make money, which is all Infinity seems to be interested in. K-Rock in New York has been a disaster after Stern finishes at 11. WBCN also drops, but not off a cliff like K-Rock. So, at least for now, it will stay as is.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by BRNout on 10/26/05 06:15 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: WBCN not flipping to Free-FM

> Believe it or not, I don't think David Lee Roth will be
> heard locally on WBCN-104.1 come January.
>
> I think what may happen is that the formats of WBCN and
> WZLX-100.7 will be consolidated into a classic/modern rock
> hybrid at 104.1 under the WBCN call letters, with current
> WZLX morning team Karlson and McKenzie in the mornings on
> 'BCN.
>

what's your prediction rate on these boards? something like 0 for 10,000.
you're amusing but so are circus clowns. maybe you should look into
a new line of work.
 
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