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K-Rock to become even more insufferable

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p_herring

Not that I even listened to these "your rock Mondays" because it seems to me that people usually pick the songs that have been heard ad naseum for the past 20 years on rock radio anyways, but this was in the body of an email I received from K-Rock:

The VP’s at HQ served us with a C&D on Your Rock Mondays. They finally decided they’d heard enough of your playlists, and told us to get the music-scheduling super computer out of sleep mode.

If we were you, we wouldn’t take it personally. Sometimes, when the bosses say “You Suck,” what they really mean is “We Love You.” At least, that’s what we keep telling ourselves. Anyway, we thought your playlists kicked ass, most of them, and that’s why, Starting Monday, Your Rock Monday moves to K-Rock2.

The address may be different, but the rules will be same: be bold, be daring, try not to suck. Show us Your Rock, then listen every Monday as you take over K-Rock2. New York’s Only Alternative - Streaming online and now on-the-air via HD Radio.

TRANSLATION: How the hell are we supposed to sell ad dollars with you guys actually making playlists that differ slightlyfrom our 100 song library?
 
"TRANSLATION: How the hell are we supposed to sell ad dollars with you guys actually making playlists that differ slightlyfrom our 100 song library?"

How doe someone sell dollars? Counterfeit? Money laundering?
 
Putting aside the snide remarks, this is yet another example of what is wrong with radio today. Any creativity whatsoever is being sucked dry by the "powers that be." K-Rock's ratings are pretty abysmal to begin with...I don't think adding even more spins for Linkin Park and Aerosmith and Led Zepellin are going to make the difference, but I guess CBS brass seems to think so (they probably also seem to think the station is doing well, since they really have stuck to the same losing formula since bringing back K-Rock).
 
neo11 said:
Putting aside the snide remarks, this is yet another example of what is wrong with radio today. Any creativity whatsoever is being sucked dry by the "powers that be." K-Rock's ratings are pretty abysmal to begin with...I don't think adding even more spins for Linkin Park and Aerosmith and Led Zepellin are going to make the difference, but I guess CBS brass seems to think so (they probably also seem to think the station is doing well, since they really have stuck to the same losing formula since bringing back K-Rock).
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Would it also be "snide" to ask how many wide playlist rock stations have ever succeeded in NY?
 
The VPs are boneheads and need to be replaced immediately. These are the people that are dragging the station down by playing the same tired AC/DC, Aerosmith, Ozzy/Sabbath, Linkin Park, RHCP, etc. songs ad nauseum, which caused people to tune out a long time ago. The biggest problem with K-Rock is that there's little difference between the K-Rock of '94 and the one in '08. They think that playing 80% of the titles that were in the rotation back then is the key to ratings gold. Note to geniuses at K-Rock - if we want tons of classic rock, there's a station for it. If we're looking for alternative rock or heavier "active rock" - there's not even one signal in the entire city, even via rimshot, that provides that format.

K-Rock should take a tip from this forum - while we're certainly not representative of everyone, they could learn a thing or two from us. Of the people that post here who are rock fans, not a single one of us likes K-Rock. We all find it to be generic, tired, and boring - which is fine for Lite or Fresh, but unacceptable for a rock station. Maybe if they surprised us every once in a while, and if they didn't play the same songs over and over again, perhaps they could emerge from the ratings cellar. These empty suits at K-Rock have the wrong idea as far as which way to go with this station. I don't know - I'm thinking CBS is trying to get a tax write-off with K-Rock. Who would be dumb enough to think people would want to listen to this garbage? I'm a rock fan, and K-Rock is my least favorite station in the entire market (well, aside from Lite and Fresh). What does that tell you? It actually makes me miss Free-FM, and that's saying something.
 
The VP’s at HQ served us with a C&D on Your Rock Mondays. They finally decided they’d heard enough of your playlists, and told us to get the music-scheduling super computer out of sleep mode.

If we were you, we wouldn’t take it personally. Sometimes, when the bosses say “You Suck,” what they really mean is “We Love You.” At least, that’s what we keep telling ourselves. Anyway, we thought your playlists kicked ass, most of them, and that’s why, Starting Monday, Your Rock Monday moves to K-Rock2.

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Why the heck would they even send out an email like this? "Get the music-scheduling super computer out of sleep mode?" "When the bosses say You Suck?"

I'd love to know the real reason they got rid of it.
 
All the better for K-Rock2. I'm a loyal listener in Philadelphia. It blows out anything on the radio here, and it's a damn good alternative (internet) station. I rarely, if ever, listen to my own music on my iPhone anymore. Major credit to WXRK for it's existence.
 
Yes, its my favorite radio-info poster, Soulcrusher. Always makes acurate posts, saying exactly what i'm thinking. Rock on dude, you should run Lame-rock and make it K-Rock again.
 
your rock mondays were good however,
IMHO I think Free rock weekends on free FM were the best when they were around.
 
I think K-Rock had their most brilliant idea to date last weekend, when they presented - instead of a "Your Rock Weekend", but a "Your Barack Weekend"!

I guess the migration of "Your Rock Mondays" to the HD2 channel can be considered "change you can believe in."
 
Gerryr said:
neo11 said:
Putting aside the snide remarks, this is yet another example of what is wrong with radio today. Any creativity whatsoever is being sucked dry by the "powers that be." K-Rock's ratings are pretty abysmal to begin with...I don't think adding even more spins for Linkin Park and Aerosmith and Led Zepellin are going to make the difference, but I guess CBS brass seems to think so (they probably also seem to think the station is doing well, since they really have stuck to the same losing formula since bringing back K-Rock).
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Would it also be "snide" to ask how many wide playlist rock stations have ever succeeded in NY?
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Would it be "snide" to point out the disdain rock fans have for K-Rock, and the station's ever-consistent poor ratings at the bottom of the market?
 
Hardrocker9 said:
Yes, its my favorite radio-info poster, Soulcrusher. Always makes acurate posts, saying exactly what i'm thinking. Rock on dude, you should run Lame-rock and make it K-Rock again.
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What's up, Hardrocker9? It's good to see that there's some people that see K-Rock for what it is: an utterly repugnant, pitiful representation of the rock format. Why are all of the problems with K-Rock obvious to us, yet completely lost on the people programming it? That's a dilemma for which we'll never know the real answer.

If anyone wants to know what's wrong with K-Rock, it's this simple: The people at the top need to be replaced. This is the product of a radio station with people who don't understand the rock format in charge of it. I bet the same suits described in the first post probably listen to Hall & Oates and Air Supply. I'm sure somebody got a big raise and promotion for saying "Hey, I know what's wrong with K-Rock! Let's can Your Rock Mondays! And you know how we play AC/DC, Ozzy and Guns N' Roses every 90 minutes? That's not enough! We need to play them every hour instead! Yeah, that's it! I can see it, boys - we're going straight to the top! We'll beat La Mega 97.9, Lite-FM, Kiss-FM, Z-100 - everybody!".

That's what happens when you have clueless folks in charge. And a few months from now, when ratings stay the same or drop even further, no one will be celebrating at K-Rock. Anyone on this forum could do a better job programming this station than the people currently running it. The only changes you ever see are extremely insignificant ones. Did they ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, people don't want to hear the same tired acts repeated over and over again? Perhaps there's a loud collective groan whenever AC/DC gets played? If there was a problem with Your Rock Mondays, it was that there wasn't enough variation from the regular playlist. If you didn't pick a list that consisted mostly of acts already played constantly at the station, it would have gone directly to the trash bin.

Since WRXP is pretty close to moving in an Alternative direction (it would be the logical move for them, given a lot of their selections), K-Rock should just go Active. I think the "K-Rock" brand is so tainted by a weak product in NYC that they may want to consider a name change. If they go in a direction like 93.5 The Beach (WZBH) in Delaware or WCCC in Connecticut, not only would they be much more focused, but more people would tune in because they wouldn't be playing the same old tired junk. They need to have a playlist of at least 500 songs, they shouldn't be afraid of playing Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Static-X and other heavier acts, and classic rock should be an accent rather than the focal point. Maybe they could daypart and play some classic rock during the day and hardly any after 6 PM. Either way, I don't see why the station I'm describing couldn't at least triple K-Rock's current abysmal ratings. Which begs the questions: Why do the powers that be at K-Rock think NYC needs essentially two classic rock stations? Why do they insist on staying the course with a direction that has kept them at the bottom of the ratings book ever since they returned?
 
Cbs phoenix is just as incompetent we have this god awful rhythmic station called jamz it was a free fm and pryor to that an pretty cool alternative.They keep cutting and getting and cutting staff at jamz for it will get blown up i just want to know is anyone steering the ship at cbs radio?They seem pretty competent in los angeles with kroq and jack fm but what is up with them in nyc and phoenix?

Just like noone on radio-info likes krock in nyc which i could not agree more noone likes jamz in phoenix either.
 
Hell yeah soulcrusher, 93.5 the beach Rocks! Its what I listen too mostly, i'm attending school down here in Salisbury. Question for lame-rock, do you know what the new track from Five Finger Death Punch is? Or do you even know who Five Finger Death Punch is? I think not.. But The Beach does!
 
The fact that the station sent this in an email to listeners doesn't make sense. I think that's a mistake on their part.

What are they looking for? People to get angry about it and send emails or letters? To show the listeners that the station's not really in charge, but people somewhere else that have little connection with them?

When special features are suddenly stopped on a station, it does just that: stop. No explanation. Only big-time listeners are likely to really notice.
 
SoulCrusher said:
If there was a problem with Your Rock Mondays, it was that there wasn't enough variation from the regular playlist. If you didn't pick a list that consisted mostly of acts already played constantly at the station, it would have gone directly to the trash bin.
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Bingo. The whole "Your Rock" thing was nothing more than a gimmick as far as I'm concerned, because last I checked, they never picked any lists that contained anything but the same old stuff. I haven't even bothered with this station in a couple months now because I know to expect the same mix of tired classic rock and the most overplayed 90s-early 2000s alternative/active rock tracks, with just a dusting of really safe currents. I would agree that an edgy, current-driven Active Rock sound would be the best way to go, maybe with some harder alternative/indie cuts sprinkled in.
 
I get it. I live in Chicago and enjoyed them online for years but no more. This station needs to get a life. The music is not what they say it is. It has not been any good in a while.
 
Speaking for those of us who use internet radio, I must say, alternative Your Rock Monday's are sweet. Music is great, a very welcome addition to an already servicable alternative stream.
 
Brooklyndon said:
Speaking for those of us who use internet radio, I must say, alternative Your Rock Monday's are sweet. Music is great, a very welcome addition to an already servicable alternative stream.
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I honestly think if they replaced the 92.3 frequency with K-Rock2 things would be better for everyone, but what do I know, I'm just the demographic they are TRYING to reach.
 
p_herring said:
Not that I even listened to these "your rock Mondays" because it seems to me that people usually pick the songs that have been heard ad naseum for the past 20 years on rock radio anyways, but this was in the body of an email I received from K-Rock:

The VP’s at HQ served us with a C&D on Your Rock Mondays. They finally decided they’d heard enough of your playlists, and told us to get the music-scheduling super computer out of sleep mode.

If we were you, we wouldn’t take it personally. Sometimes, when the bosses say “You Suck,” what they really mean is “We Love You.” At least, that’s what we keep telling ourselves. Anyway, we thought your playlists kicked ass, most of them, and that’s why, Starting Monday, Your Rock Monday moves to K-Rock2.

The address may be different, but the rules will be same: be bold, be daring, try not to suck. Show us Your Rock, then listen every Monday as you take over K-Rock2. New York’s Only Alternative - Streaming online and now on-the-air via HD Radio.

TRANSLATION: How the hell are we supposed to sell ad dollars with you guys actually making playlists that differ slightlyfrom our 100 song library?
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Maybe people are sick to death of the 100 songs!
 
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