Over the weekend I saw FliMackie for the first time. Another WTF moment on local TV!!
Are Quinones and Herrera (from Ch.14) giving that station advice on how to go below tier-1 status? Unreal.
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Over the weekend I saw FliMackie for the first time. Another WTF moment on local TV!!
Are Quinones and Herrera (from Ch.14) giving that station advice on how to go below tier-1 status? Unreal.
......?The only thing that can maybe save this putrid channel is re-instating (and rebranding) the classic music video channel. I'm sure by this point the station's credibility is in the toilet, courtesy of Quinones and Herrera. ?
Make no mistake: the new "direction" those two have taken with the station has been an abysmal failure.... without question. I guess that's what happens when one doesn't care about quality. What a waste! ?
The only thing that can maybe save this putrid channel is re-instating (and rebranding) the classic music video channel. I'm sure by this point the station's credibility is in the toilet, courtesy of Quinones and Herrera. ?
Make no mistake: the new "direction" those two have taken with the station has been an abysmal failure.... without question. I guess that's what happens when one doesn't care about quality. What a waste! ?
you actually think they have any credibility or viewers? Theres probably more talking about them on here then watching them over the air!
Oh, I'm sure they're very well aware of the discussion here SRG. And wondering W.T.F. to do with that thing!
... For what its worth, they claimed to have 100,000 viewers in recent years. With the video channel's demise, that number diminished considerably I'm sure. Regardless, it was definitely a bad move on their part axing it. In my opinion, they deeply regret it too!
Lots of potential for the former IZ Videos and, not surprisingly, they blew it! Go figure.
It appears this "station" is still in a self-induced coma. Funny enough, it seems like they're airing less of those embarrassing Pitic commercials as well. Perhaps due to COVID-19?
Unfortunately, it took something like that for Q & H to come to their advertising senses, assuming they did cut some air time for it.
Ten months after the misguided demise of IZ Videos, they still don't have a clue how to go forward. If nothing else, it's a great alternative to Comedy Central for OTA television! ...
Unfortunately, it took something like that for Q & H to come to their advertising senses, assuming they did cut some air time for it.
Ten months after the misguided demise of IZ Videos, they still don't have a clue how to go forward. If nothing else, it's a great alternative to Comedy Central for OTA television!
...It looks like 14.3 (38.3) is no longer host to the third-rate church music channel. I'm sorry Herrera, that was terrible! Where do you get these stupid ideas from?
It's now called EEE Net I believe. In short order, it's another putrid channel that requires no effort to implement. That's why Q & H added it.
Both laziness and piss-poor work ethic continue to rule the game over at 14/38. Unreal.
It's now called EEE Net I believe. In short order, it's another putrid channel that requires no effort to implement. That's why Q & H added it.
Both laziness and piss-poor work ethic continue to rule the game over at 14/38. Unreal.
I knew it! The music videos are back, albeit in a different format. It's on the "old" Store TV, 14.5.
Store TV?? That cracks me up!!
Anyway, are you ready?? The new music channel is titled.... nothing! In other words, there is no title, not yet anyway.
Nothing wrong with playing active pop music, but Quinones and Herrera are clueless on how to reach younger audiences!!
What I've seen so far, it's a hybrid of current pop, hip-hop, and country.
Store TV?? That cracks me up!!
Anyway, are you ready?? The new music channel is titled.... nothing! In other words, there is no title, not yet anyway.
Nothing wrong with playing active pop music, but Quinones and Herrera are clueless on how to reach younger audiences!!
What I've seen so far, it's a hybrid of current pop, hip-hop, and country.
Quick question: did my antenna bite the dust, or did Ch. 14?
There hasn't been a signal for a month in my area. Just a plain old black screen on all seven channels.
There hasn't been a signal for a month in my area. Just a plain old black screen on all seven channels.
Well, another 14/38 sub-channel has bitten the dust. 38.4 (I believe it was called ACM ) is no longer on-air. That lasted under three months! 🤣
Store TV (😃....🤣) is on both 38.4 and 38.5 now. Embarrassing. 😑
Store TV (😃....🤣) is on both 38.4 and 38.5 now. Embarrassing. 😑
...🙄 Store TV (🤣) has now added "more" classic music videos like they used to play on IZ Vids, along with the recent addition of current videos yet twice as many terrible informercials. WTF?? 🙃
Clearly Quinones and Herrera now realize they blew it by axing the latter, and regret it big time.
Hmmm... I wonder if they even pay the PRO (performing rights organizations) fees for the limited music they play on this channel? Just saying. 🤨
Hmmm... I'm getting seven blank screens again? Is it extinct or something?
😑...😏...🤔
Hmmm... it's probably "back" because they needed a month to renew their tired infomercials so they could turn the lights back on. That's the only "work" they put into that so-called station.
Yeah, Q & H are really doing a bang-up job. Congratulations....
Yeah, Q & H are really doing a bang-up job. Congratulations.
...Is this your life's obsession? You really seem to hate this TV station with such a passion I'm surprised you haven't tried to buy it since, according to your posts, they intentionally try to have the very worst programming as their business model. Yours accounts for the last ten posts which is why I posted.
I'll be glad to answer, thanks for asking.
I don't think "obsession" is the right word b. This is a discussion board to have dialogue about all-things broadcasting, pro and con. As long as this (or any) station is on-air for the public to view and/or hear, it's fair game for honest critique. Even if it comes across as harsh.
To your comment, their (non?...😏) "business model" is simple: take up space with anything that sticks a little so we can air more infomercials.
Whatever provides the least amount of work for them is what they'll deliver to their viewers, no matter how bad it is----- and they know it. Personally, I think that's a sad commentary.
Nine failed sub-channels in an 18-month period? Really?
Unfortunately, it's stations like this that reinforce an unfair stigma that low-power TV seemingly can't shake off. Respect. 😎
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I get what you are saying. I was in the Houston market and knew of a company with LPTVs. They leased them to whoever might buy the time (one was an attorney; one was a new car dealer selling used cars to those with no credit). The format was usually a one hour loop playing 24/7. They had one employee and a contract engineer. We talked about lease prices. The AM daytime station I was managing billed more money being leased. They weren't on cable systems (nothing worth watching).
I recall he had a couple of channels he just couldn't seem to find a steady customer. He said he had lots of people lease and make the first payment but were broke by time the end of the month came along, so quite a few were only on a month. One seemed sort of interesting: a guy wanting to do a Texas Channel, all original programming about Texas on many different subject matters. The problem was it was one guy with two employees. It wound up being a thirty minute weekly show and a repeating infomercial for some very 'iffy' products. It was as if he had this idea but no clue as to how it would happen. Lots of times it was a church that tried doing a 24/7 channel and quickly realized 24 hours a day is quite a chore to fill with programming. He said one church just showed a camera shot of the sanctuary and played CDs of music during late night and overnight.
He said the owner didn't live in Houston and, it seems, bought the stations thinking it was a cash cow: just put something on and it will start printing money for him. You'd think a business person would be a bit more intelligent.
I wish I could recall what he charged to lease a channel. It wasn't much. I do recall the Texas channel charged $3 for a thirty and $5 for prime time. Even at that rate, they could easily pay the lease with a handful of clients. I thought that was interesting because even a small business could afford TV if there was some actual programming there.
Thank you for the explanation. I read each post and marvel at your description. I sure have to wonder why folks keep stations where they have no clue and certainly struggle. They might be 'dogs' they bought but somebody is always there to buy and try to do something. I'd realize I was out of my element, struggling and cut my losses.
Maybe the radio station I managed wasn't much better. We sold to a client that took our entire broadcast day. Given our AM and daytime status, we had very few options for formats and this was the best way for us to pay the bills. Our biggest problem with accounts was they'd sell just enough to cover their expenses, no matter how much I urged them to take an attitude they never had enough clients. As soon as they lost a couple of clients they never caught up and quickly went under. Then again, they thought their programming would attract advertisers, something that never happens.
Still, your comments make me wish I could tune in and be just as amazed at how bad the channels are.
I recall he had a couple of channels he just couldn't seem to find a steady customer. He said he had lots of people lease and make the first payment but were broke by time the end of the month came along, so quite a few were only on a month. One seemed sort of interesting: a guy wanting to do a Texas Channel, all original programming about Texas on many different subject matters. The problem was it was one guy with two employees. It wound up being a thirty minute weekly show and a repeating infomercial for some very 'iffy' products. It was as if he had this idea but no clue as to how it would happen. Lots of times it was a church that tried doing a 24/7 channel and quickly realized 24 hours a day is quite a chore to fill with programming. He said one church just showed a camera shot of the sanctuary and played CDs of music during late night and overnight.
He said the owner didn't live in Houston and, it seems, bought the stations thinking it was a cash cow: just put something on and it will start printing money for him. You'd think a business person would be a bit more intelligent.
I wish I could recall what he charged to lease a channel. It wasn't much. I do recall the Texas channel charged $3 for a thirty and $5 for prime time. Even at that rate, they could easily pay the lease with a handful of clients. I thought that was interesting because even a small business could afford TV if there was some actual programming there.
Thank you for the explanation. I read each post and marvel at your description. I sure have to wonder why folks keep stations where they have no clue and certainly struggle. They might be 'dogs' they bought but somebody is always there to buy and try to do something. I'd realize I was out of my element, struggling and cut my losses.
Maybe the radio station I managed wasn't much better. We sold to a client that took our entire broadcast day. Given our AM and daytime status, we had very few options for formats and this was the best way for us to pay the bills. Our biggest problem with accounts was they'd sell just enough to cover their expenses, no matter how much I urged them to take an attitude they never had enough clients. As soon as they lost a couple of clients they never caught up and quickly went under. Then again, they thought their programming would attract advertisers, something that never happens.
Still, your comments make me wish I could tune in and be just as amazed at how bad the channels are.
Good to know b that we can have a civil discussion on this. It's interesting reading your own viewpoints and experiences with this format. I appreciate your thoughts on this.
You mentioned the Texas channel that charged $3 for thirty and $5 for prime time. You might have read earlier in the thread that the owners of this channel attempted something similar.
Long story short, two years ago they created a putrid ad to "lease" out their channels. Needless to say, they quietly removed it after three weeks! In other words, people saw what little (if any) pride they take in their station, and presumably didn't bite. Rightly so I might add.
All this said, I still believe there's a place for LPTV over-the-air. It's just too bad that Q & H are perfectly fine with aiming below tier 1, by constantly blowing opportunities to make it better.
...😔They might be as bad as my owners were in the end. They decided the only format the station could have was brokered time. They saw having a studio and office as an unneeded expense.
Even worse, there were more stations in town leasing than there were people buying time. My owners kept demanding more dollars per month than all the competitors. They went three years with nothing. All I could do for programming was record a couple of CDs to play with some announcements tossed in to ask for programmers.
I knew one programmer buying on to stations. He did a Bollywood music format with personality DJs (no politics or talk shows, just music and good air talent). He offered to lease AM and PM drive and actually send us a couple of clients to buy middays and part of the weekend. I was negotiating with those he sent me.
What I knew is the guy had a quarter of a century in the market and in the market his programming was a household name. Any other group doing similar programs would want on the station. In fact, brokered stations don't care about having programming flow from program to program. They're fine with a Spanish language preacher followed by a Bollywood program and then Chinese. I was going to only do Bollywood.
Because I still needed to sell another $7,000 a month between middays and the weekends my owners refused the deal. I told them it was like having a 4 unit apartment complex and somebody wants to lease a unit but you refuse because they won't lease all 4 units.
The other thing they did not like was they would have to pay for a switcher on a timer to switch Barix boxes at the transmitter site. They said they weren't paying for anything extra.
In the end I left, they went silent and recently sold for a much smaller amount than it should have.
I agree LPTV is not an excuse to scrape the mold off the bottom of the barrel. There is no reason a LPTV can't be just as quality and professional as any other station. In fact, while I understand starting small, having no plan or just whatever is irresponsible as a broadcaster in my opinion. To exist as an informercial station or a loop of horrendous commercials is far below a shopping channel (which is low). There are plenty of networks out there.
By the way, do you remember Video Jukebox, offered to LPTVs early on? A guy in Houston had a LPTV that used the format. It was an all request music video channel. The station made it's money off their commission from the requests. The problem was, if another request didn't come in, the default was to play the last requested song repeatedly until the next request came in. What a terrible idea!
Even worse, there were more stations in town leasing than there were people buying time. My owners kept demanding more dollars per month than all the competitors. They went three years with nothing. All I could do for programming was record a couple of CDs to play with some announcements tossed in to ask for programmers.
I knew one programmer buying on to stations. He did a Bollywood music format with personality DJs (no politics or talk shows, just music and good air talent). He offered to lease AM and PM drive and actually send us a couple of clients to buy middays and part of the weekend. I was negotiating with those he sent me.
What I knew is the guy had a quarter of a century in the market and in the market his programming was a household name. Any other group doing similar programs would want on the station. In fact, brokered stations don't care about having programming flow from program to program. They're fine with a Spanish language preacher followed by a Bollywood program and then Chinese. I was going to only do Bollywood.
Because I still needed to sell another $7,000 a month between middays and the weekends my owners refused the deal. I told them it was like having a 4 unit apartment complex and somebody wants to lease a unit but you refuse because they won't lease all 4 units.
The other thing they did not like was they would have to pay for a switcher on a timer to switch Barix boxes at the transmitter site. They said they weren't paying for anything extra.
In the end I left, they went silent and recently sold for a much smaller amount than it should have.
I agree LPTV is not an excuse to scrape the mold off the bottom of the barrel. There is no reason a LPTV can't be just as quality and professional as any other station. In fact, while I understand starting small, having no plan or just whatever is irresponsible as a broadcaster in my opinion. To exist as an informercial station or a loop of horrendous commercials is far below a shopping channel (which is low). There are plenty of networks out there.
By the way, do you remember Video Jukebox, offered to LPTVs early on? A guy in Houston had a LPTV that used the format. It was an all request music video channel. The station made it's money off their commission from the requests. The problem was, if another request didn't come in, the default was to play the last requested song repeatedly until the next request came in. What a terrible idea!
Unfortunately, HC2 is following the road I had expected them to. They're starting to give K14RK a run for their money with K18JL 22.x, KTVP 23.x and KPDF 41.x. Out of their 18 subchannels, CRTV appears on 4 (2 on KTVP alone), Timeless TV on 3 and MMN on 2 and Binge TV on 1 - all infomercial channels, although Timeless and MMN show public domain fare (a very limited playlist). Throw in shopping channels QVC and Shop LC, two 7th Day Adventist channels (1 EN, 1ES), SBN, two local Spanish church channels and a Catholic channel, and you have the sum of HC2's offerings in Phoenix. I think Cheddar lasted even less time than K14RK's LitLife!
It's too bad; there's a lot of programming out there: NTD America, Biz TV, All Sports, BeIN Sports, CTN, France 24, Ventana TV, Heartland, Fun Roads, OAN, AlmaVision, Renuevo, and TCN, just to name a few.
It's too bad; there's a lot of programming out there: NTD America, Biz TV, All Sports, BeIN Sports, CTN, France 24, Ventana TV, Heartland, Fun Roads, OAN, AlmaVision, Renuevo, and TCN, just to name a few.
Ask and you shall receive: BeIN Sports is now airing on KPDF-CA 41.6. Imagine that.
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