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K225DC 92.9 (KGTK?) contact help appreciated.

Actually, a check of several local SDRs shows KGTK still on the air. It's just an open carrier. So what else is new???!!! At least the web audio stream is gone.
 
Now that AM 930 in Bellingham is gone I wonder if KGTK 920 could throttle up the power a bit. KMTT in Portland on 910 is directional east-west so perhaps that's not an issue. A little more power might help KGTK reach better into Tacoma.
 
The reason why the 92.9 translator had to move is the impending arrival of KVNW Napavine-Centralia-Chehalis. The station will sign on at some point with 280 watts ERP as a Class A. The FCC just approved the downgrade to expedite the station launch. Perhaps once the snow clears the owners can connect things up. The tower is near Buckhorn Hill, west of Interstate 5.
 
RF101 said:
L2C filed today (2/18) for KVNW Napavine 92.9. Any DXers hearing it?
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they are not on. A Friend in the Aberdeen area is getting KISM in HD and KITI 95.1 is coming in just fine.
 
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they are not on. A Friend in the Aberdeen area is getting KISM in HD and KITI 95.1 is coming in just fine.
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This is the issue with 92.9. Even with 280 watts, a flamethrower like KISM right up the puget sound is bound to cause issues. This seems like a shoehorn situation that won’t end up working that well.
 
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This is the issue with 92.9. Even with 280 watts, a flamethrower like KISM right up the puget sound is bound to cause issues. This seems like a shoehorn situation that won’t end up working that well.
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It was originally a C3
 
Does anyone know which allocation came first, 92.9 in Lewis County or 93.3 in the Astoria area? To me, it makes more sense for a class C1 on 92.9 to be in the Astoria area than a C3 in Lewis County. Without KVNW, 92.9 in Astoria could easily be a C1, yet two class A signals have signed on in that area in recent years, one covering up a Seattle signal that otherwise would have been audible in parts of that area.
 
There was a long battle for the allocation and eventual COL movement. My understanding was 92.9 was originally set for channel 225C3 in Clatskanie, Oregon around 2004. A legal battle went on for years between the former CP holder Threshold Communications (KRVR, etc.) , and Premier Communications (KITI, etc.) over Threshold's community-of-license move to Napavine, Washington. The FCC finally agreed with Threshold which led to Premier's eventual buyout for $250K as a post-decision settlement. I do not think anyone got rich except the lawyers.

See the 2022 decision here: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-22-60A1.docx


(This whole things dates back to Auction 91.)

A friend down that way says they're on the air with non-music "environmental sounds". Of course, KVNW is a Class A for now but I am sure the 92.9 signal will return to Class C3 status at some point.
 
You got it . Ocean sounds. BTW, is the Vancouver Aquarium's ORCA-FM "CJKW-FM" still around? I don't see any listings. That was "All Killer Whales, All The Time", courtesy of a hydrophone pickup.
 
RF101 said:
KGTK 920 Olympia has applied to donate the license to BJ & Skip's For The Music Foundation, the same people behind KBRD. No word whether KITZ will follow a similar path as that Silverdale station lost its tower site.

See: Draft Copy « License Modernization « FCC
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I can't wait to see what plans the folks over at 'BJ and Skip's For The Music' have for their 2nd radio station. Any guesses?

A separately programmed station and format?
Sell off the 680 frequency? Diplex KGTK on the KBRD tower?.

One thing is for certain, 920 has a superior signal AND nighttime coverage. 680 has to be the ultimate daytimer, as they are required to sign on and off with a shorter number of hours compared to other daytimers. I know it's to protect KNBR, but in winter they only get 8 hours to be on the air. And it's only 250 watts!
 
KilowattKat said:
I can't wait to see what plans the folks over at 'BJ and Skip's For The Music' have for their 2nd radio station. Any guesses?

A separately programmed station and format?
Sell off the 680 frequency? Diplex KGTK on the KBRD tower?.

One thing is for certain, 920 has a superior signal AND nighttime coverage. 680 has to be the ultimate daytimer, as they are required to sign on and off with a shorter number of hours compared to other daytimers. I know it's to protect KNBR, but in winter they only get 8 hours to be on the air. And it's only 250 watts!
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680 was always a bit of a surprise. Even though it’s incredibly low powered, it wasn’t that bad. I’m not sure what their ultimate goal is, but 920 could be somewhat of an upgrade. Though I think most of their listeners are probably online.
 
Re: KBRD, KLDY and KGTK signals - Are they already triplexed on the same tower? (K221GR at 99 watts is supposed up there too.)


Regarding hours - here ya' be...
KBRD does not chirp much in the wintertime.

Average hours of sunrise and sunset:
Local Standard Time (Non-Advanced)
Jan 8:00 AM 4:45 PM
Feb 7:15 AM 5:30 PM
Mar 6:30 AM 6:15 PM
Apr 5:30 AM 7:00 PM
May 4:30 AM 7:45 PM
Jun 4:15 AM 8:15 PM (max 20 hrs)
Jul 4:30 AM 8:00 PM
Aug 5:00 AM 7:30 PM
Sep 5:45 AM 6:30 PM
Oct 6:30 AM 5:30 PM
Nov 7:15 AM 4:30 PM
Dec 7:45 AM 4:15 PM (min 8.5 hrs)
 
Bad math on my part. The maximum summertime total for KBRD is 16 hours.

BTW, the FCC does not have a handy KML file for KBRD coverage unlike the one for KGTK. I thought when 101.1 shifted to relaying KBRD that the mandatory Translator-to-AM overlap map would have been generated . No such luck.

Still, using Radio-Locator where the red line is the 2.0 mv contour clearly shows KGTK has better coverage than KBRD.
 
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The FCC today re-approved an earlier 4kw ERP C3 configuration for KVNW 92.9 Napavine (Centralia-Chehalis). Once the full power arrangement launches I bet KVNW will have a new format.
 
Yeah right now they have just been simulcasting KITI-AM 1420 for the last few weeks on 92.9. The move from C3 to A happened fairly quickly — I wasn’t sure if it was a case of them just being able to throw up a low power transmitter and cheap antenna on short notice to get it on the air — or if they were just saving money in general and matching the power of KITI-FM which they’ve been successful with for years at 95.1 which I believe is basically stuck forever as a Class A due to KUOW-FM in Seattle as a C1 at 100kw on 94.9 — pretty sure anything more than a Class A for KITI short spaces them…

What I do know is a 300-500 watt transmitter and a 2 bay Nicom antenna (supposedly what they are using from their app) is considerably less expensive than what it would take to get a C3 at 4kw on — so wasn’t sure if that was possibly a conscious choice considering their other station is an A.

I also wonder if this is a way to free themselves from their AM, and KITI may just stay on 92.9 with Classic Hits or wherever they end up taking it… as it is, KITI-AM 1420 is a 5kw 3 tower array with a translator on 100.5 that broadcasts from one of the cell towers above Chehalis. If that format goes to 92.9, maybe they unload the AM — not sure if the 100.5 translator is bound to the AM or if they could then do the whole HD translator thing with either 95.1 or 92.9 if they did end up buying HD gear that isn’t turned on yet if they actually wanted 3 formats.
 


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