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KAHL 1310/103.7 any format changes on the horizon?

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willdav713

I have noticed that KAHL has been on the air for at least 4 years as a Standards format. The Standards format has been pretty much dead all over the country.

I wish Barger would air the True Oldies Channel on the FM or even the AM side of the dial. As True Oldies Channel has more variety than KONO, and they do play those early days of rock and roll on Sunday night.

I wonder if the cost involved would be prohibitive?

Also noticed one other thing when KISS was oldies they were located out of the same office on Vantage Dr.
 
KNCT-FM in Killeen has been doing beautiful music for decades. It doesn't show any signs of quitting. If you have an audience that supports the station and its sponsors/underwriters why change?
 
willdav713 said:
I have noticed that KAHL has been on the air for at least 4 years as a Standards format. The Standards format has been pretty much dead all over the country.

I wish Barger would air the True Oldies Channel on the FM or even the AM side of the dial. As True Oldies Channel has more variety than KONO, and they do play those early days of rock and roll on Sunday night.

I wonder if the cost involved would be prohibitive?

Also noticed one other thing when KISS was oldies they were located out of the same office on Vantage Dr.
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Barger has said on a couple of occassions that KAHL 103.7 is a hobby of his.
 
saradio1 said:
willdav713 said:
I have noticed that KAHL has been on the air for at least 4 years as a Standards format. The Standards format has been pretty much dead all over the country.

I wish Barger would air the True Oldies Channel on the FM or even the AM side of the dial. As True Oldies Channel has more variety than KONO, and they do play those early days of rock and roll on Sunday night.

I wonder if the cost involved would be prohibitive?

Also noticed one other thing when KISS was oldies they were located out of the same office on Vantage Dr.
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Barger has said on a couple of occasions that KAHL 103.7 is a hobby of his.
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Ya know, 103.7 has been simulcasting KAHL-AM for years, and the liners / jingles still say it's a new station for KAHL. They should update those, seriously.

Also, not very much mention of the 105.9 FM KAHL simulcast in Hondo unless you count the legal IDs.
 
Yeah, why mess with the station? There's a target audience for the station. Why change? Why not one of the three classic rock stations that area already in the are (yes, I'm calling KISS classic rock too)?
 
sdh483 said:
Yeah, why mess with the station? There's a target audience for the station. Why change?
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Because the target audience for the format is 55+ and dying off. There's not even a possibility it will appeal ironically to hipsters! :D
 
Jody Denberg once told me "There's 31 flavors at the ice cream store". Likewise, there are many different ways to make a radio station work. Over 55 only precludes agency buys, and agencies aren't going to be buying some little AM or low-power FM that isn't the top 3 stations in a demo anyway.
It always irks me that programmers and consultants assume there's only one way to make a successful radio station. If every station is going after the same segments, a lot of $$ is being left on the table.
Besides that, Barger has FORGOTTEN more about radio than the combined posters on this board have ever known.
And another thing: check out KLUP's ratings. I don't think they've been in the whole numbers since they dumped the Standards format.
 
The 55+ crowd has more than 20 years left in them on average. And it's not like people stop spending money when they reach 55.
BTW-- When everyone's 401K tanked in the economic crisis my parents were just fine. They had put all of their money into something called "savings" which was unaffected. LOL
 
grantchester said:
Jody Denberg once told me "There's 31 flavors at the ice cream store". Likewise, there are many different ways to make a radio station work. Over 55 only precludes agency buys, and agencies aren't going to be buying some little AM or low-power FM that isn't the top 3 stations in a demo anyway.
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When Barger flipped KAHL to Standards, I distinctly remember him being quoted in Jeanne Jakle's column as saying he chose this format because he liked this format. But the bottom line is whether the format sells or not. I'm a lousy analyst in this case, because I haven't ever listened to it long enough to see how much of an ad load it has. Speaking as a focus group of one, I'm closer to the target demo for this than I am to the target for Mix 96 and I find the Standards to be a far less interesting listen.
 
fredcantu said:
The 55+ crowd has more than 20 years left in them on average. And it's not like people stop spending money when they reach 55.
BTW-- When everyone's 401K tanked in the economic crisis my parents were just fine. They had put all of their money into something called "savings" which was unaffected. LOL
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Somebody here said once that the 55+ crowd is not desirable to advertisers because their brand preferences are locked in. It made sense to me. I figured it was dogma in the radio sales community.

And I agree that the 55+ folks who live in my neighborhood haven't stopped spending. They go golfing, take cruises and buy new vehicles every couple of years. My vehicles don't get replaced as often as theirs do and I've never been golfing in Texas or gone on a cruise... I've got kids' college tuition to pay. ;D
 
My grandparents spend money too. They buy a new car every few years, constantly remodel and upgrade their home, just bought a 60" LED 3D TV with a blu ray player and are in the process of buying an RV. They also love listening to KAHL. When the came to visit, their radio was tuned to 103.7, but that signal is AAA in Houston but I remember it's standards in SA. There are other cities with a similar format that does well in places like Florida and Las Vegas.

Bottom line: There is no need for another top 40, classic rock, religious or talk. Leave it alone. If you don't like the station, keep your head buried in whatever crap top 40 music is playing on Mix.
 
sdh483 said:
My grandparents spend money too. They buy a new car every few years, constantly remodel and upgrade their home, just bought a 60" LED 3D TV with a blu ray player and are in the process of buying an RV. They also love listening to KAHL. When the came to visit, their radio was tuned to 103.7, but that signal is AAA in Houston but I remember it's standards in SA. There are other cities with a similar format that does well in places like Florida and Las Vegas.

Bottom line: There is no need for another top 40, classic rock, religious or talk. Leave it alone. If you don't like the station, keep your head buried in whatever crap top 40 music is playing on Mix.
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I would rather have the True Oldies Channel on KAHL just one of their stations, even if it is on AM.

My parents have XM in their car, and listen to nothing else. They constantly have it on 60s on 6.
I agree it shouldn't be another Top 40, classic rock, religious, or talk.

When I am down in San Antonio I listen to KONO, KTSA for Mark Levin, sometimes KAHL, and if I can stand the distortion KJXK. I like the recently added songs they would never play such as Fantastic Voyage, and Ain't No Stopping us Now and I would flip it to AM 86 just for kicks. The same goes for the Micheal Jackson songs. All because AM Top 40 back in the 80s for AM radio in San Antonio officially died around 1988 when Z-Rock replaced Super Q.
 
willdav713 said:
I would rather have the True Oldies Channel on KAHL just one of their stations, even if it is on AM.
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But that's not possible is it? 103.7 has to rebroadcast 1310. It can't transmit it's own programming... Wait there are already a couple translators doing that!
 
KevanGC said:
willdav713 said:
I would rather have the True Oldies Channel on KAHL just one of their stations, even if it is on AM.
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But that's not possible is it? 103.7 has to rebroadcast 1310. It can't transmit it's own programming... Wait there are already a couple translators doing that!
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So it is possible a radio station that is not a translator become a translator? because didn't they use to be KBUC?


Also, If it was launched on AM 1310 HD-2 it could.
 
willdav713 said:
So it is possible a radio station that is not a translator become a translator? because didn't they use to be KBUC?
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Huh? I think he was more trying to point out that some translators flaunt the rule that translators can't originate programming and seem to get away with it. By the way, yes, KBUC used to broadcast on 103.7, but its originating signal was at 98.3. It moved to 98.5 and relicensed to Schertz becoming KBBT. Then, KBUC was moved to 95.7 and lasted until BMP bought it and moved La Ley there. I also don't recall the owner of KBUC ever actually owning the translator at 103.7, which would make sense because operators can't own translators that extend the coverage of their stations unless they get waivers.

Also, If it was launched on AM 1310 HD-2 it could.
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At the present time, there can be no HD multicasting on AM. It's possible the technology could improve to allow it later, but I'm not holding my breath. Also, I understand having an extra stream on AM would be possible if the analog signal was silenced, but, again, I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
Honestly, I'm tired of all these "when is such and such station flipping formats" topics. It's as useless as arguing yourself out of a paper bag. I strongly believe these types of posts are created by the OP because they personally don't like the station. If that was the case, then I would have created a topic titled "When are they going to flip Mix 96.1?" What a waste of time since they're not going anywhere, just like this topic.
 
sdh483 said:
Honestly, I'm tired of all these "when is such and such station flipping formats" topics. It's as useless as arguing yourself out of a paper bag. I strongly believe these types of posts are created by the OP because they personally don't like the station. If that was the case, then I would have created a topic titled "When are they going to flip Mix 96.1?" What a waste of time since they're not going anywhere, just like this topic.
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I like KAHL, and I listen to it. I also listen to KONO. Do you want me to make a new post titled "The KZEP Slide?" or asked when "KTKX should flip to something else?" I just find it rare that an Standards station such as KAHL would be heard on FM. Also, the fact the Cruisin America on Scott Shannon's True Oldies channel plays pre-1964 music. Plus it costs money to operate a radio station, would it be cheaper for Barger to air satellite programming? Probably. But who knows maybe Townsquare media will swallow up the Border Stations and flip 102.7 to the True Oldies format thus ending up with KONO, KXJK, and KAHL Standards to chose from.

I don't really care for Mix 96.1, it is not my cup of tea. I don't want it to flip, either. Nor 98.5 the Beat for that matter. Unless it is classic country favorite of mine Y-100 I also don't care for.

If it wasn't for KAHL I wouldn't have known about Penner's selling Worx Shoes which I buy 2-3 times out of the year. So I must like the station to support it's advertisers.
 
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