Kahn Demo Page -A Bit Deceptive?

[LinoNYC]

http://wrathofkahn.net/

Check me if I'am getting the wrong impression here, I went to Kahn's audio page expecting to hear actual demo's of the Cam-D system, and that's sort-of what it purports to be.

However when you actually read the decription and download the files they are clearly analog airchecks -not digital.

Neither recording is anything but a demostration of how Cam-D supposedly co-exists with the analog signal. Even more suspicious (to me) the statement that Cam-D allows stereo analog to continue to be used but it only demonstrates the now-banned Kahn-Hazeltine system.

Why then, no actual Cam-D demos? Even Ibiquity offered airchecks in early 2003, they were awful, but atleast they were public.

Why no spec's on bitrate? I read various anecdotals on this but as yet, nothing "official".

The site makes a ton of claims but offers zero proof of anything. Why?

I know these queations will put me on some people's "s..." list (If I'am not already) but it is fair to ask for some actual proof beyond "secret patents" and special sauce if you are proposing a viable alternative to the approved digital system.

Lino

 

[clouseau]

http://wrathofkahn.net/

Check me if I'am getting the wrong impression here, I went to Kahn's audio page expecting to hear actual demo's of the Cam-D system, and that's sort-of what it purports to be.

However when you actually read the decription and download the files they are clearly analog airchecks -not digital.

Neither recording is anything but a demostration of how Cam-D supposedly co-exists with the analog signal. Even more suspicious (to me) the statement that Cam-D allows stereo analog to continue to be used but it only demonstrates the now-banned Kahn-Hazeltine system.

Why then, no actual Cam-D demos? Even Ibiquity offered airchecks in early 2003, they were awful, but atleast they were public.

Why no spec's on bitrate? I read various anecdotals on this but as yet, nothing "official".

The site makes a ton of claims but offers zero proof of anything. Why?

I know these queations will put me on some people's "s..." list (If I'am not already) but it is fair to ask for some actual proof beyond "secret patents" and special sauce if you are proposing a viable alternative to the approved digital system.

Lino

I will confess to having almost no knowledge of the CAM-D system, but I too have never heard a demo of it working. There is not even an AVAILABLE radio. Frankly, I've never heard of anyone who has heard the system, even under test conditions. I haven't seen audio specs for reception and I am very skeptical that the system even exists "AS DIGITAL" at all. And with the ever elusive "We can't tell you how it works because of patent issues", you have to wonder.

Has ANYONE heard even a demo of this technology?

Clouseau

 

[Len14043]

That is precisely why his lawsuit will go down in flames.

 

[dbdigital]

Given the limitations imposed on AM (both natural and regulatory), I think CAM-D is a brilliant idea. But I also think it's doomed. I mean, if CE manufacturers are squeamish about producing a wide array of HD Radio products, what chance does CAM-D have of ever making it's way into consumer radios?

If Kahn's system had the backing of an international consortium similar to the DRM Consortium maybe it could have made inroads into other countries and, eventually, even found its way into the U.S. As it is we have Leonard Kahn playing Don Quixote and tilting at windmills with one or two true believers at his side. That's no way to introduce a technology and expect it to achieve widespread acceptance. He needs to go on a major tour and do presentations on CAM-D and, hopefully, build excitement or consensus for it.

And having a bad website doesn't help. Where are the sound clips (I'm talking several not one), where are the photos of the CAM-D box and the installations, where is the FAQ page so that engineers can read up on the system? Instead we get Leonard's ranting and his court and FCC battles.

db