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KAMC's Wikipedia page...

They will ditch the old logo when the analog signal shuts down.....It makes me wonder how much longer KCBD chooses to brand itself as Newschannel 11.
 
Amazing how this point still hasn't managed to get through over the last how many years now...

KAMC will continue to appear as "channel 28" after the transition. KCBD will still appear to viewers as "channel 11."

Channel mapping and PSIP. They're wonderful things. Go look 'em up if you don't understand how they work.
 
Yeah, you'd think that people would get this by now. The TV stations aren't helping by going with call letters like "WBZ" or "KLBK" or "KAMC" (to name a few I know of).
 
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with call-letter branding. The station where I work does it - it's easier in many ways to be "WXXI-TV" than to pick among the various channels where our services are found on different cable and satellite systems. Bad enough that we now have to tag radio spots with "TV 21, cable 11, HD cable 1011."

WBZ, on the other hand, could certainly have kept the "channel 4" branding; it's still the way everyone knows the station.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Amazing how this point still hasn't managed to get through over the last how many years now...
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I know. However, I know I've had to explain this to people for quite some time, and I still get asked about it.

KAMC will continue to appear as "channel 28" after the transition. KCBD will still appear to viewers as "channel 11."
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Not to mention that KCBD will be going back to 11 anyway.
 
I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean by "going back to 11." Do you mean that instead of mapping to 11 their digital freq will be 11 also? Why would that even matter?

Scott, I do see your point about not needing broadcast numbers in the logo. If I remember correctly, in Lubbock, KCBD 11 is seen on Channel 9 on most cable systems, KAMC 28 is on 8, and KLBK 13 is on 7, so I guess calls make more sense. But I sure don't understand why they dropped the 4 from the WBZ logo, other than to emphasize the return of the "W B Z" branding. The trouble is, from the old days of the 70s and 80s, the "TV4" was as much of the branding as "WBZ". KDKA didn't stop using "2" and WCCO in Minneapolis is only now phasing out the "4" in their logo.
 
Garrett said:
I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean by "going back to 11." Do you mean that instead of mapping to 11 their digital freq will be 11 also? Why would that even matter?
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Yes, KCBD's digital signal will be on 11, instead of the present 9. As for why it matters, there are a few reasons stations may want to have their digital signal on their analog channel. Remember, VHF stations require less power and can use an air cooled transmitter instead of the water cooled variety. Those are two good reasons you'd want to be on a high-VHF signal instead of UHF. However, neither of them necessarily apply to KCBD since it's digital 9. 11 may do a little better on digital, though, I suppose. I can't tell the difference myself, but the general rule is that the quality of DTV signal moves on somewhat of a bell curve based on channel.
 
Well, I don't understand why 11 would be better than 9, since 11 is a higher frequency, but pretty close to 9, but I am also not an engineer. Perhaps there is another channel on 9 that restricts them from using more power? I have noticed 11's digital channel has trouble in South Lubbock. But as far as the viewer is concerned, it should make absolutely no difference.
 
If you want to see the FCC's predicted post-transition signal for the various Lubbock stations, you can check here: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/maps_report1/Lubbock_TX.pdf.

It looks like KCBD will do a little better on digital 11 than it's doing on analog 11, though there will be some loss areas to the east and south. It doesn't show what the coverage would be had they remained on 9, though the predicted contour maps at the FCC's site show virtually identical coverage.

It's possible that someone else negotiated for 9, which would mean KCBD agreed to go back to 11. However, I don't know for certain. Regardless, KCBD decided it was better off at 11 than 9 for whatever reason, and it's really not a difficult transition. They're apparently going to take a digital transmitter from a co-owned station and use it. They can easily retrofit an analog transmitter for digital, and they can probably re-tune a digital transmitter from a nearby channel. So, it's going to be very simple.
 
KCBD 9? It's a BRANDING issue. Maybe I am lost, but I've only seen KCBD on channel 9 on the local suddenlink cable system...never OTA transmission, digital or analog. As the new voice of the news product at KCBD, I can assure you I've seen scripts that make mention of NC11 only.
 
Of course, they're branding as KCBD 11, and they'll continue to do so. That's what they've been forever, and they'd be crazy to change. The reason you haven't seen them at 9 digital is because they're mapping it back to 11 just like we've been talking about. The typical viewer probably doesn't know it's on digital 9 either; they just punch "11," and they're happy!
 
Maybe it's just me, but it's confusing to see the digital channel scan load the actual channels and then the available channels are different from the ones scanned in.
 
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