KANY move in

[Grounded Grid]

Well I just heard the official news. I have to say, this is a major disappointment. The Seattle AM dial already contains a plethora of Spanish language programming for anyone who is interested. Not to mention, KDDS 99.3 serves as as a power house Spanish leader.

I'm curious to hear from other Radio Discussions members on this topic. I don't have confidence in this format.

Thank you for deciding that the Hispanic audience is already well-served. I'm sure you're qualified to make that observation for them.

The Seattle dial contains a plethora of most every commercially-viable format as it is. I don't know what it was you were hoping for, but the economic realities of this business don't leave a lot of options that aren't already oversaturating. This company has done very well in the cities they presently serve. They aren't beginners, and this is a great opportunity for them and their listeners.

You might be interested to know that the vast majority of their programming is produced in their own studios, located across the state and in Oregon. Though possibly not what you might have preferred, this is an excellent example of locally-produced radio.

 

[fordranger797]

Thank you for deciding that the Hispanic audience is already well-served. I'm sure you're qualified to make that observation for them.

The Seattle dial contains a plethora of most every commercially-viable format as it is. I don't know what it was you were hoping for, but the economic realities of this business don't leave a lot of options that aren't already oversaturating. This company has done very well in the markets they presently serve. They aren't beginners, and this is a great opportunity for them and their listeners.

You might be interested to know that the vast majority of their programming is produced in their own studios, located across the state and in Oregon. Though possibly not what you might have preferred, this is an excellent example of locally-produced radio.

Well that is good for their progress as a syndicated brand. However, I think there are many people out there who view this change as a major disappointment. It's rare to see a new radio frequency pop up in such a large metropolitan radio market.

 

[bobdavcav]

Now K218CU needs to go. Wouldn't the 93.7 signal be just fine where that translator serves?

 

[Blatherwatch]

Now K218CU needs to go. Wouldn't the 93.7 signal be just fine where that translator serves?

Hell yes, I could get my KOPB fix again. But give it awhile, their translator usually goes down for months at a time

 

[bossbill]

Thank you for deciding that the Hispanic audience is already well-served. I'm sure you're qualified to make that observation for them.

The Seattle dial contains a plethora of most every commercially-viable format as it is. I don't know what it was you were hoping for, but the economic realities of this business don't leave a lot of options that aren't already oversaturating. This company has done very well in the cities they presently serve. They aren't beginners, and this is a great opportunity for them and their listeners.

You might be interested to know that the vast majority of their programming is produced in their own studios, located across the state and in Oregon. Though possibly not what you might have preferred, this is an excellent example of locally-produced radio.

Yes, CFC has become a major player, and based in Seattle. I'm quite surprised that there are some posters that somehow feel that AM stations at the top of the band are sufficient for a growing Spanish-speaking population. I sincerely hope that there are not racist overtones on a prestigious site such as this.

A rim-shot by definition is not a full-market station. Rim-shots cover most of the market, but cannot compete with mainstream formats that have full class C facilities at West Tiger or even Cougar. Since the only two Spanish language FM stations in the market are both rim-shots, and one of them is secular and the other Christian, I'm not seeing this as a plethora of anything. The 1680 AMs of the world have a very difficult time covering any significant portion of the metro, and to suggest that this is sufficient for a growing segment of our population is a bit suspicious, and very disappointing.

 

[fordranger797]

Yes, CFC has become a major player, and based in Seattle. I'm quite surprised that there are some posters that somehow feel that AM stations at the top of the band are sufficient for a growing Spanish-speaking population. I sincerely hope that there are not racist overtones on a prestigious site such as this.

A rim-shot by definition is not a full-market station. Rim-shots cover most of the market, but cannot compete with mainstream formats that have full class C facilities at West Tiger or even Cougar. Since the only two Spanish language FM stations in the market are both rim-shots, and one of them is secular and the other Christian, I'm not seeing this as a plethora of anything. The 1680 AMs of the world have a very difficult time covering any significant portion of the metro, and to suggest that this is sufficient for a growing segment of our population is a bit suspicious, and very disappointing.

Well I apologize for any misunderstanding that could have been made from my post earlier. I was not trying to insinuate any sort of inappropriate remark. I was just trying to point out that the AM band is serving the spanish speaking format decently already (depending on how you view it).

I'm positive that nobody on Radio Discussions would ever insinuate the idea that 93.7 should not be used for second language programming based off any reason but professional, bureaucratic reasons. We all just like to complain

 

[davideduardo]

. I was just trying to point out that the AM band is serving the spanish speaking format decently already (depending on how you view it).

First, "Spanish" is a language, not a format.

Second, a bunch of miserable AMs don't serve anyone well. Hispanics, both in the US and in most of Latin America, use AM less than the general population so being served by a deficient AM is no service at all.

 

[davideduardo]

Another regional Mexican (religious?) station? Really? (I don't speak Spanish, but it sounds like a religious station.) The market needs another one of these just like we need another CHR. I was hoping for something unique with a mass appeal. The audio sounds (spoken word) like its coming through two tin cans separated by string.

"Regional Mexican" is a specific type of format, like country. "Spanish language religious programming" is NOT "regional Mexican" and can come in as many varieties as English language religious programming. In this case, Christian Contemporary means the same thing in English as in Spanish and its a unique format.

"Spanish" is a language, and not a format. There are as many... or more... possible formats in Spanish as in English, and they are as specific in appeal as English language formats; not everybody will like the same format.

 

[semoochie]

Without doing any research, I thought most Spanish dominant households were Catholic. If this is true, I would think that anything other than a Catholic presentation wouldn't work very well. If it isn't true, please enlighten me.

 

[fordranger797]

Without doing any research, I thought most Spanish dominant households were Catholic. If this is true, I would think that anything other than a Catholic presentation wouldn't work very well. If it isn't true, please enlighten me.

Thats a very interesting point. I did not think of that... I wonder how successful KCMS is with Catholic listeners.

 

[bossbill]

Well I apologize for any misunderstanding that could have been made from my post earlier. I was not trying to insinuate any sort of inappropriate remark. I was just trying to point out that the AM band is serving the spanish speaking format decently already (depending on how you view it).

I'm positive that nobody on Radio Discussions would ever insinuate the idea that 93.7 should not be used for second language programming based off any reason but professional, bureaucratic reasons. We all just like to complain

Since AM has been all but abandoned by English-speaking audiences, and has been primarily relegated to news, news/talk, and talk, why would one assume it's "serving the Spanish speaking format decently"? Is there something different about people who happen to speak Spanish as their primary language that causes them to prefer AM? I think not. It's just that FM has not been available to them in the Seattle market.

 

[fordranger797]

Since AM has been all but abandoned by English-speaking audiences, and has been primarily relegated to news, news/talk, and talk, why would one assume it's "serving the Spanish speaking format decently"? Is there something different about people who happen to speak Spanish as their primary language that causes them to prefer AM? I think not. It's just that FM has not been available to them in the Seattle market.

I'm positive that nobody on this thread has classified the Spanish speaking population as being "different" in any negative sense. From what I can tell, we have all looked at this format flip only from a personal and economic perspective (i.e, we either would listen or not, and if we think it will be good for ratings or not). Also, there are many formats on the AM dial that many of us regular users enjoy (e.g, jazz on one of the z-twins stations). Therefore, I still look at the AM dial as viable for many formats that struggle on the FM band. I think its a little much to suggest that some RD users [who were merely discussing a format change] have some sort of social problem with this format flip, because that would be absurd. If the new KLSY was programmed with a Hot AC format there would be just as many people who want to discuss whether or not it was a good move to make that flip.

 

[Bongwater]

Yes, CFC has become a major player, and based in Seattle. I'm quite surprised that there are some posters that somehow feel that AM stations at the top of the band are sufficient for a growing Spanish-speaking population. I sincerely hope that there are not racist overtones on a prestigious site such as this.

No Bill, I don't believe there are.

We on this board probably just weren't used to expecting Hispanic Christian off a rimshot Seattle FM signal so SOON. We were silently predicting the very worst. ANOTHER Hot AC, Sports-On-FM, etc. You know how commercial radio is. Always chasing after that instant $$$.

Thanks for the curveball.

 

[crainbebo]

I don't mean to be mean but SS Christian will get you 5,000 listeners, maybe. Gold AC or EZ-Listening? Likely 30,000+ and businesses all over the coast and SW WA would have loved it. Retirees go to the coast all the time and a lot of them don't want to hear "Catch My Breath" Kelly Clarkston blaring out of KSWW's satellite service. They want softer music, smooth jazz or gold AC 1970s/80s. Lots of people go to the coast to relax so why is KYSJ in Coos Bay still blaring out Smooth Jazz when no one on the coast is? KZIZ AM only goes so far and probably no where near the coast, let alone Olympia.

I don't get this format. I don't even think Los Angeles has a SS Christian FM (maybe AM). But now Seattle and don't forget Yakima! I thought that the long Christmas stunt on KYXE 104.9 would cause us to have another AC after the fall of My 99.3 to KIT! Nope, another Christian station. The population is predominately SS out here however, but there probably aren't that many living in Westport or Ocean Shores.

-crainbebo

 

[Lightingnut]

"Regional Mexican" is a specific type of format, like country. "Spanish language religious programming" is NOT "regional Mexican" and can come in as many varieties as English language religious programming. In this case, Christian Contemporary means the same thing in English as in Spanish and its a unique format.

"Spanish" is a language, and not a format. There are as many... or more... possible formats in Spanish as in English, and they are as specific in appeal as English language formats; not everybody will like the same format.

Great, the SoCal KnowItAll has made a stop in the PNW. DE, go back to the hole you crawled out from. Your arrogance is not welcome here (so what if I got the format name wrong...big deal...don't get your panties in a wad).

 

[Lightingnut]

Yes, CFC has become a major player, and based in Seattle. I'm quite surprised that there are some posters that somehow feel that AM stations at the top of the band are sufficient for a growing Spanish-speaking population. I sincerely hope that there are not racist overtones on a prestigious site such as this.

A rim-shot by definition is not a full-market station. Rim-shots cover most of the market, but cannot compete with mainstream formats that have full class C facilities at West Tiger or even Cougar. Since the only two Spanish language FM stations in the market are both rim-shots, and one of them is secular and the other Christian, I'm not seeing this as a plethora of anything. The 1680 AMs of the world have a very difficult time covering any significant portion of the metro, and to suggest that this is sufficient for a growing segment of our population is a bit suspicious, and very disappointing.

Really? Their website says San Diego. (BTW, I thought that CFC's depleted the ozone layer!)

 

[davideduardo]

Great, the SoCal KnowItAll has made a stop in the PNW. DE, go back to the hole you crawled out from. Your arrogance is not welcome here (so what if I got the format name wrong...big deal...don't get your panties in a wad).

What, and leave you in your ignorance?

If you had called an "alternative rock" station "classic rock" a dozen posts would have corrected you.

 

[davideduardo]

I don't mean to be mean but SS Christian will get you 5,000 listeners, maybe. Gold AC or EZ-Listening? Likely 30,000+ and businesses all over the coast and SW WA would have loved it.

You have to look at the sales aspects of this. Gold AC or Easy Listening get mostly over-65 year olds, and it is a tough sale, even for direct business.

Obviously, the owner looked at the potential for different niches within the market area of the signal, and found something that would work for that situation.

 

[Lightingnut]

What, and leave you in your ignorance?

If you had called an "alternative rock" station "classic rock" a dozen posts would have corrected you.

WTH is wrong with you??? Is it your job to correct everyone else's mistakes? How many times have you been married anyway??? Bet she couldn't deal with your oversized ego! (Other posters have complained about you...but I guess you think that you are a little god and untouchable.)

 

[frankberry]

From the CFC Radio website:

Write to us at:
CFC Radio
86 Lackawanna Ave. Suite 318
Woodland Park, NJ 07424

Why in the world are you arguing about such a trivial matter?