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Karel Show Making Gains

Aside from his weekend stint on KGO, Karel self-syndicates a daily show which is now on 7 stations. Here are the particulars:

Monday-Friday 3pm to 6pm PST on
KRXA AM 540 Monterey/Salinas/Santa Cruz
KJRB Spokane,
KGOE Eureka
Green1640 Atlanta/Decatur,
WVNJ New Jersey / New York
WXMR-FM New Jersey,
KJFK Reno, Nv

Not too shabby. He's probably only making enough to pay his distribution costs, but even so, gotta give Karel props for chutzpah in getting out there and convincing stations to carry him. How many other hosts have tried and failed to syndicate? A lot, I'll tell you.

Now, I personally don't like his show, but my likes and dislikes are not the point. The point is that Karel is succeeding where others have failed and I give him lots of credit for that.
 
DavidKaye said:
Aside from his weekend stint on KGO, Karel self-syndicates a daily show which is now on 7 stations. Here are the particulars:

Monday-Friday 3pm to 6pm PST on
KRXA AM 540 Monterey/Salinas/Santa Cruz
KJRB Spokane,
KGOE Eureka
Green1640 Atlanta/Decatur,
WVNJ New Jersey / New York
WXMR-FM New Jersey,
KJFK Reno, Nv

Not too shabby. He's probably only making enough to pay his distribution costs, but even so, gotta give Karel props for chutzpah in getting out there and convincing stations to carry him. How many other hosts have tried and failed to syndicate? A lot, I'll tell you.

Now, I personally don't like his show, but my likes and dislikes are not the point. The point is that Karel is succeeding where others have failed and I give him lots of credit for that.

How do know of all these stations his show is on if you don't like his show? I don't like his show at all. IMO, he's the worst person I've ever heard on the radio. I cant figure out how he keeps his job. He must have a little cult following and 100% of those people write letters to stations telling how much they love him. OR, it's a money thing. He must work real cheap. We know KGO is going with the cheapest workers they can find. Well, as Joel Drucker said/wrote "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". I once heard Karel say "I'm the K in KGO" and you know what? He was right. I can't believe this has happened.
 
DavidKaye said:
HCochet said:
How do know of all these stations his show is on if you don't like his show?

Do you honestly not know?

OR, it's a money thing. He must work real cheap.

It's called "barter".

Yes, I honestly don't know how you know so much about Karel other than his KGO work. I don't know what to think of that question. Do you think I'm a liar? Almost sounds like a stupid question or the kind of question you hear from people who think they're more important than they really are. You know, for example they try to cut the line at the airport, or restaurant and when they can't they say "Don't you know who I am"? That's what you sound like. What's the big deal? I don't know how you know so much about Karel.

Thank you for telling me that word. It's almost like telling me "there was a Tueday last week".
We all know the term "barter". What's the purpose of telling us/me such an obvious thing? Did I ask "does anyone here know that word you use to describe exchanging goods and/or services? I mean for example, when Karel is negotiating a deal, what's that word?"
you "barter"
me "thank you"
No, that's not what I was asking.
 
HCochet said:
Yes, I honestly don't know how you know so much about Karel other than his KGO work.

I looked at his web page, then I looked at the web pages of the stations he lists. This is not rocket science.

Almost sounds like a stupid question

It IS a stupid question. You should know better.

We all know the term "barter". What's the purpose of telling us/me such an obvious thing?

You asked how he could be making any money on his show. I told you. Barter. He barters his show.
 
DavidKaye said:
HCochet said:
Yes, I honestly don't know how you know so much about Karel other than his KGO work.

I looked at his web page, then I looked at the web pages of the stations he lists. This is not rocket science.

Almost sounds like a stupid question

It IS a stupid question. You should know better.

We all know the term "barter". What's the purpose of telling us/me such an obvious thing?

You asked how he could be making any money on his show. I told you. Barter. He barters his show.

I did not ask how could he be making money. I wrote that I don't know how he keeps his job and speculated that he must work real cheap. Then I supported the theory by reminding readers here that KGO is cutting labor costs.
You could have answered my questions about all those stations Karel works on my saying you checked his web site rather than being an a$$ about it.
I think you like Karel and/or his show more than you're admitting to.
 
I doubt he is making money bartering his show. You can make a little money at 20, but really need 100 affiliates before you make any real money. It's a real uphill climb. I can remember Glenn Beck BEGGING to get on in SF, when he only had 18 affiliates.
 
HCochet said:
I think you like Karel and/or his show more than you're admitting to.

You obviously don't follow my writings much. I think Karel is a train wreck. I've been saying so since he first went on KGO a decade ago. The last time I listened to him was in December when the KGO staff was fired and he parroted Ronn Owens' remark about "survival guilt", which is a terrible thing for either him or Ronn to say because it's a phrase that denotes the Holocaust. It is an abomination to compare the firings at KGO with the Holocaust. I was NEVER a Karel fan, but I'd tune in for a few minutes from time to time. After that statement I don't tune in at all any longer.

BUT (and this is where you and others get confused), I can admire aspects of a professional broadcaster even though I detest them. I'm a realist, not a propagandist.

Thus, you will sometimes see me post positive things about Karel, Bill Wattenburg, Michael Savage, or Rush Limbaugh, though I think they're all first class jerks. However, there are certain things they do as PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTERS that work. I'm all about the arts and sciences of broadcasting.
 
"survival guilt", which is a terrible thing for either him or Ronn to say because it's a phrase that denotes the Holocaust

Oh, so you're a psychologist now. Or a semanticist. Or both.

As was pointed out previously, the fact that Karel's show is offered to stations on a barter basis does not necessarily mean that it is profitable or that he is even covering his expenses.
 
chris319 said:
As was pointed out previously, the fact that Karel's show is offered to stations on a barter basis does not necessarily mean that it is profitable or that he is even covering his expenses.

That's not my point in starting this thread. My point is that Karel is succeeding in adding stations to his lineup when other talkshow hosts who are way better (namely Angie Coiro, Peter B Collins, and Sally Jessy Raphael) were unable to do so when they were trying to self-syndicate.

If Karel is adding stations he must at least be covering his expenses, given that he's said in the past that his only sources of income were radio and TV and his occasional stand-up shows.
 
DavidKaye said:
HCochet said:
I think you like Karel and/or his show more than you're admitting to.

You obviously don't follow my writings much. I think Karel is a train wreck. I've been saying so since he first went on KGO a decade ago. The last time I listened to him was in December when the KGO staff was fired and he parroted Ronn Owens' remark about "survival guilt", which is a terrible thing for either him or Ronn to say because it's a phrase that denotes the Holocaust. It is an abomination to compare the firings at KGO with the Holocaust. I was NEVER a Karel fan, but I'd tune in for a few minutes from time to time. After that statement I don't tune in at all any longer.

BUT (and this is where you and others get confused), I can admire aspects of a professional broadcaster even though I detest them. I'm a realist, not a propagandist.

Thus, you will sometimes see me post positive things about Karel, Bill Wattenburg, Michael Savage, or Rush Limbaugh, though I think they're all first class jerks. However, there are certain things they do as PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTERS that work. I'm all about the arts and sciences of broadcasting.
It's funny that you never liked his show, but you visit his web site and while there, look up where else Karel can be heard and then you post it here for everyone. Not the thing a person would normally do if they disliked someone.

I disagree 100% with your opinion about the definition of "survivor guilt". Just google it and you'll see that you're wrong. It's just one of many examples given. Among others:
From an Internet search
survivors guilt or syndrome is a mental condition that occurs when a person perceives themselves to have done wrong by surviving a traumatic event when others did not. It may be found among survivors of combat, natural disasters, epidemics, among the friends and family of those who have committed suicide, and in non-mortal situations such as among those whose colleagues are laid off.
I don't know if it's true, I never heard it before, but in the same search it tells about Waylon Jennings having survivors guilt because he had (and gave up) a seat on the airplane that crashed and killed Buddy Holly
 
If Karel is adding stations he must at least be covering his expenses, given that he's said in the past that his only sources of income were radio and TV and his occasional stand-up shows.

You don't know that. I highly doubt you have access to information concerning Karel's financial status, therefore you're conjecturing.
 
chris319 said:
If Karel is adding stations he must at least be covering his expenses, given that he's said in the past that his only sources of income were radio and TV and his occasional stand-up shows.

You don't know that. I highly doubt you have access to information concerning Karel's financial status, therefore you're conjecturing.

Karel has talked a few times on KGO about his personal money situation. I never heard any figures but he talked about how terribly poor he is. He might not be able to pay his mortgage and cable, etc., this and every month. It almost sounds like he's fishing for someone to feel sorry for him and send him a check or put him in their will.
I don't listen to him much. I have often tried listening because I'm a KGO fan. After about 30 seconds I see it was a mistake. I continue for a few minutes and then turn it off. During a short time like that, I have twice heard him talk about how little money he makes. So, if I've heard it twice, he's probably talked about it a lot.
I don't recall other hosts talking like that, except when the lottery is high and they say it would be nice to win it. No one else gets personal saying that they're going to have a tough time making rent.
Ronn has admitted that he's "well paid", but that's all. No one cries about it like Karel.
 
HCochet said:
It's funny that you never liked his show, but you visit his web site and while there, look up where else Karel can be heard and then you post it here for everyone. Not the thing a person would normally do if they disliked someone.

I'm fascinated by the inner workings of broadcasting (and of business in general), regardless of whether I like a particular host or not. Is that really so hard for you to understand?
 
DavidKaye said:
HCochet said:
It's funny that you never liked his show, but you visit his web site and while there, look up where else Karel can be heard and then you post it here for everyone. Not the thing a person would normally do if they disliked someone.

I'm fascinated by the inner workings of broadcasting (and of business in general), regardless of whether I like a particular host or not. Is that really so hard for you to understand?

No, not since you explained it that way. But I still think you like him more than you admit.
 
I cannot stand his show, he is so fake, earlier he talks and interrupts the caller. Also, he emotional with a caller about he isn't able to pay a mortgage and not having medical insurance within the last 3 years. I know he has money, but why is he faking it?
 
e-dawg said:
I cannot stand his show, he is so fake, earlier he talks and interrupts the caller. Also, he emotional with a caller about he isn't able to pay a mortgage and not having medical insurance within the last 3 years. I know he has money, but why is he faking it?

He's not faking it. How do you know he has money? Because he's on the radio? Do you know how low radio salaries are these days? At one point he was being paid $500 a show for KGO. Okay, that $1,000 a week, or $4,000 a month. His mortgage has got to be about $2,500 a month given the Zillow record for his home. His utilities probably run about $200. So, $1,300 before taxes. Take off 17% for taxes and that's what? $1079 a month net income.

Okay, maybe he gets a gig once in awhile for CNN or his comedy show. Big deal. Maybe he makes $500 from CNN or $300 from his comedy show.

This is not rich.
 
a minor sucess story in a down economy...that is good news. I tried to go to some of the links on his websiteand they don't come up very good.
 
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