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Kathy Griffin Fired from CNN
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Kathy Griffin. Ted Nugent. No difference. Both are assclowns with no remaining career in show biz.
Neither is/was a direct threat to the President, but it doesn't matter. The Secret Service takes even the slightest threat to the President very seriously, as they should. A threat of any kind to the President is a Federal offense, even if it's not meant to be taken seriously.
Neither will be prosecuted, but the message MUST be sent that such buffoonery can and will get a person into serious trouble. We've been lucky in that there has been no attack on a President since 1981. Like Trump or not, the Secret Service will continue to do its job.
Depicting harm to the President or any other public official is not protected by the 1st Amendment.
In the statement, she says she received a call from the Secret Service. No where does it say that Trump sent them. Trump doesn't have to send them. Any threat against the president is investigated. Apparently Madonna was investigated after her comments at the women's rally in January. This is standard stuff. Don't threaten the president.
As I understand it, no matter who the president is, the Secret Service must get to the bottom of any threat, whether presented as a joke or not. I doubt the President would have much bearing on whether it is investigated or not. I don't think any president's phone call or whatever, if there was actually one, would change the minds of any company on whether a person remained under contract with that company or corporation. Certainly the opinion of their customers would be the driving factor. I'm guessing CNN considers her as not good for business at this point. I just wonder how her career will look in a year or two. It could go either way in my mind.
Not even close to the core issue here.
There must be thousands of people who have made threats against Trump by now. The SS must be very busy these days. Enough that a parody photo by a comedian gets top priority.
I think her career is over after the stunt she pulled today. It might be different if she came out and apologize right after all of this went down, people are more likely to give someone a second chance if they admit they messed up.
I don't know that it was TOP priority, but let's face it: She wasn't secretive about it. She was looking for attention, and she succeeded. Mission accomplished.
There are people who think she's a "comedian?" She's never been the least bit funny in anything I've ever seen her in.
This aspect of the discussion has nothing to do with the President.
Imus made a mistake, was fired, behaved like an adult, apologized and made a comeback.
Griffin made a mistake, was fired, behaved like a child, did not apologize and can't make a comeback because she was never "there".
It's a question of each person's behaviour after making a bad, bad mistake. One rose above it, the other slithered even lower.
You can't make standard practices in place for many decades into anything but "business as usual".
Joe Pags interviewed Ted Nugent this week about his Secret Service encounter. He was interviewed only for statements that he made. All of the claims about him using a gun and threatening to shoot Obama were lies and exaggerated stories.
You are totally and completely wrong. As soon as the blowback began Griffin pulled the photo and asked the photog to pull his copies. She then went on media and apologized - not once but twice. She again apologized, and took responsibility, for the photo at her news conference the following day.
As was explained in the news conference, this photo, terrible as it was, was a counterpoint to Trump's original "bleeding" statement. Griffin said she never thought it would be interpreted as anything else. Right or wrong that is a valid consideration.
As for Trump's original statement - he still has not apologized. Whose career deserves to end?
This is in the court of public opinion. You can exclude Trump completely from the discussion, and her situation doesn't really change.
No, you cannot exclude Trump. This whole situation was directly caused by his statement.
But what he said has nothing to do with how people are responding to her. That is the situation she has to deal with.
Her future is dependent on what the public thinks, and right now, it's not positive.
Excluding Trump: she made a mistake, did not unequivocally apologize, threw a blame-shifting fit and then held a tearful "why did they do this to me" pity party. She even dissed Anderson Cooper for not supporting something Cooper found reprehensible quite independent of whatever the President said.
The situation was not caused by Trump. It was caused by going to far in a world frightened by terrorists and real beheadings and massacres. She can find who to blame in a mirror
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