Is anyone knows anything about this station out of Brown Summit? ??? ???
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KAWZ-FM Translator
- Thread starter tropicanamedia
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KAWZ is a 100kW station licensed to CALVARY CHAPEL OF TWIN FALLS, Twin Falls, ID. It is probably the station that the translator in Brown Summit is relaying. That is not uncommon for these regilous little translators and LPFMs to be owned by a local church and program a "mothership" from somewhere else in the US.
something odd about it is that whenever i drive by that area, it's never clear. i never can hear it clear on 96.7 but it's 'stronger' on 96.9 ??
what is causing this..could it be their transmitting equipment?
one questin i have though is this: in the fcc database, it doesn't show as "KAWZ" but as W244CD - browns Summit. What is this? wouldn't they have to ID the station as W244CD? or as the parent station?
-oh, and a little info on where they broadcast if anyone is curious:they use that tall-ish (800ft) tower off of Hwy 150 near the interchange of I-785/Hwy 29. this site was once used by WBIG back in the 80's. WBIG became 102JAMZ (WJMH) in 1989 and moved to a taller stick near Summerfield, which is now shared with WPAW and WKZL.
-just thought i would throw that in there
what is causing this..could it be their transmitting equipment?
one questin i have though is this: in the fcc database, it doesn't show as "KAWZ" but as W244CD - browns Summit. What is this? wouldn't they have to ID the station as W244CD? or as the parent station?
-oh, and a little info on where they broadcast if anyone is curious:they use that tall-ish (800ft) tower off of Hwy 150 near the interchange of I-785/Hwy 29. this site was once used by WBIG back in the 80's. WBIG became 102JAMZ (WJMH) in 1989 and moved to a taller stick near Summerfield, which is now shared with WPAW and WKZL.
-just thought i would throw that in there
I will have to see on the FCC website, but I think translators, required to ID once per hour either by the mothership or the station itself and it can be automatic. Think UNC and their translators in western NC.
I bet the transmitter is old and the frequency has drifted and of course no one looks after it so it wanders all over the place and no one cares and of course no one worries about things like on frequency operation and station ID's; just that it is on the air. Good thing it is only licensed for 10 watts.
edit-Here is the wording from the FCC website and this all I can find that states anything about station identification:
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification
announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and
(2) Hourly, as close to the hour as feasible, at a natural break in
program offerings. Television and Class A television broadcast stations
may make these announcements visually or aurally.
(3) Satellite operation. When programming of a broadcast station is
rebroadcast simultaneously over the facilities of a satellite station,
the originating station may make identification announcements for the
satellite station for periods of such simultaneous operation.
(ii) In the case of aural broadcast stations, such announcements, in
addition to the information required by paragraph (b)(1) of this
section, shall include the frequency on which each station is operating.
I bet the transmitter is old and the frequency has drifted and of course no one looks after it so it wanders all over the place and no one cares and of course no one worries about things like on frequency operation and station ID's; just that it is on the air. Good thing it is only licensed for 10 watts.
edit-Here is the wording from the FCC website and this all I can find that states anything about station identification:
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification
announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and
(2) Hourly, as close to the hour as feasible, at a natural break in
program offerings. Television and Class A television broadcast stations
may make these announcements visually or aurally.
(3) Satellite operation. When programming of a broadcast station is
rebroadcast simultaneously over the facilities of a satellite station,
the originating station may make identification announcements for the
satellite station for periods of such simultaneous operation.
(ii) In the case of aural broadcast stations, such announcements, in
addition to the information required by paragraph (b)(1) of this
section, shall include the frequency on which each station is operating.
Hmm... never saw 3-ii. Apparently the station I used to work for did things incorrectly. Additionally, I was told there that translators were only required to be ID'd three times per day, though that could be the case for translators operating via rebroadcast inside of the range of the originating station. Do these rules you point out apply only to translators operating via satellite outside the range of the originating station, or is that not specified?
KAWZ actually has two TWO translators in the area, the one in Browns Summit on 105.9 and one licensed to Eden on 106.1. Traveling NC 14 between Eden and Reidsville, I lose the Eden translator about halfway, and the Browns Summit translator begins to quiet my receiver about that point.
One difference I've noticed between the two...the Eden translator is monaural, but the Browns Summit translator does transmit a stereo pilot tone. I've not listened enough to tell if they're actually broadcasting in stereo.
Later....
Matt Smith
WGSR-TV
One difference I've noticed between the two...the Eden translator is monaural, but the Browns Summit translator does transmit a stereo pilot tone. I've not listened enough to tell if they're actually broadcasting in stereo.
Later....
Matt Smith
WGSR-TV
matt...you sure it's 105.9 ?
-there is a 105.7 translator up in Danville that has a CP to move to 105.9...but that's all i can think of for that frequency in this area
last time i went to g'boro, that KAWZ trans. was on 96.7 or 96.9..somewhere around there..
-there is a 105.7 translator up in Danville that has a CP to move to 105.9...but that's all i can think of for that frequency in this area
last time i went to g'boro, that KAWZ trans. was on 96.7 or 96.9..somewhere around there..
Which these guys (not to mention others) have been failing to do for years.
Since they don't want to play by the rules that other stations have to go through in order to keep their license, then I say take the translators off the air!
Since they don't want to play by the rules that other stations have to go through in order to keep their license, then I say take the translators off the air!
KAWZ DOES identify their translators. They give ID's for 4 or 5 of them each hour, along with the KAWZ Legal ID. I think translators, while they have to be identified several times each day, do not have to be identified hourly as is the practice with full-power stations.
Later....
Matt Smith
WGSR-TV
Later....
Matt Smith
WGSR-TV
Like I say, I was taught that the minimum was 3 times per day. We used to ID our translators (at the station I previously mentioned I'd worked at) once at 6 AM at the beginning of the morning show, again just before the noon news and finally at the start of the night show at 7. However, we never made the frequencies of those translators a part of the ID's... I don't think management realized it was necessary (and, hence, neither did I).
If the parent FM station is providing the translator ID, it must be done 3 times a day, at fairly specific intervals (once between 7AM-9AM, once between 12:55PM-1:05PM, and once between 4PM-6PM). So it would seem that your ID schedule was not 100% compliant, for what it's worth.
There is also a provision for the translator to ID itself by using International Morse Code, using either FSK or AM on the FM carrier. Some translator equipment comes with an option for an ID keyer using one of these methods. I've never heard a translator ID in this fashion, but I don't know if you could hear it on a standard FM radio.
It is not necessary to include the frequency in the translator ID...just the callsign and city of license. The FCC "channel number" is already part of the translator callsign, so there is really no need to add the frequency.
There is also a provision for the translator to ID itself by using International Morse Code, using either FSK or AM on the FM carrier. Some translator equipment comes with an option for an ID keyer using one of these methods. I've never heard a translator ID in this fashion, but I don't know if you could hear it on a standard FM radio.
It is not necessary to include the frequency in the translator ID...just the callsign and city of license. The FCC "channel number" is already part of the translator callsign, so there is really no need to add the frequency.
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