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KB On-line

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Today I read about Y100rocks.com, and got inspired. Go there to get their story.

What if we brought KB back as an Internet station? As some of you know, I currently have a little oldies station on Live365. With a little bit of extra effort, it could be turned into a Buffalo Oldies version of Y100rocks (which also uses the Live365 platform).

If you want to listen to my existing station, I believe you have to register, but it should be free for the ad-supported service. Search on "Oldies 101" once you get on Live365, and let me know what you think. What would you think about changing the name and adding Klassic KB elements (jingles, airchecks, old ads, features, eventually live jocks???)? Steve Mitchell, Cichon, Biniasz, are you out there? Anybody else have material? Would there be any legal concerns? Would people volunteer to help out?

Let me know if you think this would be a worthwhile venture!

TS
 
Interesting concept except I have the following questions.

1. How many cars have internet streaming capabilities?

2. How many people would come home after a hard day at work and sit at their computer in order to listen to a streaming radio station?

3. How many employers allow their employees to stream music at work? That question I can answer; not many. That’s because of the number of firewalls many companies use to keep out spammers.

So while your idea is an interesting one, I just don’t see where it would be profitable.



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> Interesting concept except I have the following questions.
>
> 1. How many cars have internet streaming capabilities?
>
> 2. How many people would come home after a hard day at work
> and sit at their computer in order to listen to a streaming
> radio station?
>
> 3. How many employers allow their employees to stream music
> at work? That question I can answer; not many. That’s
> because of the number of firewalls many companies use to
> keep out spammers.
>
> So while your idea is an interesting one, I just don’t see
> where it would be profitable.
>
Hey, when I'm up in Toronto, I listen to WHTT on line, because it the only damn thing worth listening too. Got to love the huge variety..........My god, this is great!
 
> Hey, when I'm up in Toronto, I listen to WHTT on line,
> because it the only damn thing worth listening too. Got to
> love the huge variety..........My god, this is great!
>
WHTT doesn't have 35-40 percent cancon, or the pre 1981 rule for CDN FM to worry about, but there's at least one AM there that may do better as a WHTT type station, even with the can con...

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Thanks for the replies. Please keep 'em coming. Although Y100/Phila is generating revenue, I don't see KB Online as a for-profit venture. Rather it would be a place to:

1) Hear music that isn't being played regularly in the market.

2) Park classic KB elements so that they can be heard and enjoyed.

3) Collaborate on a different kind of radio station.

I totally understand the limitations of streaming as a distribution channel. But I can't think of anything else that can be used under "our" control. Wireless broadband is coming, and that will open up new spaces and places for Internet radio to be heard.

TS
 
>
> >
> WHTT doesn't have 35-40 percent cancon, or the pre 1981 rule
> for CDN FM to worry about, but there's at least one AM there
> that may do better as a WHTT type station, even with the can
> con...

And which one might that be?
 
Re: KB On-line - WiFi Broadcasting Link

I think it's a great idea, as long as nobody's trying to get rich. I'm sure a lot of former KB jocks would be happy to produce some fresh voice tracks as their schedule allows, as well as contribute some classic airchecks, etc. KB fans around the world would probably love to hear this.

Somebody in Rochester should put on a similiar BBF/Oldies stream. I'm also sure former BBF AM & FM jocks would contribute pro bono.

Speaking of the future, I know not much about WiFi, but check out this interesting thread on the Community Radio Board: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=653269&Board=community

> Thanks for the replies. Please keep 'em coming. Although
> Y100/Phila is generating revenue, I don't see KB Online as a
> for-profit venture. Rather it would be a place to:
>
> 1) Hear music that isn't being played regularly in the
> market.
>
> 2) Park classic KB elements so that they can be heard and
> enjoyed.
>
> 3) Collaborate on a different kind of radio station.
>
> I totally understand the limitations of streaming as a
> distribution channel. But I can't think of anything else
> that can be used under "our" control. Wireless broadband is
> coming, and that will open up new spaces and places for
> Internet radio to be heard.
>
> TS
>
 
Re: KB On-line - WiFi Broadcasting Link

> I think it's a great idea, as long as nobody's trying to get
> rich. I'm sure a lot of former KB jocks would be happy to
> produce some fresh voice tracks as their schedule allows, as
> well as contribute some classic airchecks, etc. KB fans
> around the world would probably love to hear this.
>

Thanks, Ray. You echo my sentiments. I'd be glad to do the "heavy" lifting, but certainly would welcome contributions from others. Who knows where it might lead??

BTW, kb-radio.com was available, and has now been registered.
 
Re: KB On-line - WiFi Broadcasting Link

> I'm sure a lot of former KB jocks would be happy to produce some fresh voice >tracks as their schedule allows, as well as contribute some classic airchecks, >etc.

It's all an interesting concept.....buuuut I'm not sure I'd like to be the one to present the idea of producing free voice-tracks to, oh let's say Danny or Mitchell or Armstrong. (If you knew Stevie, like I know Stevie--oh, oh, oh what a guy!)but, all seriousness aside, if they would do it for free, I think they might still be on the air at 1520.

I do have one question; how would ASCAP or BMI respond to this idea?
 
Re: KB On-line -

In addition to paying ASCAP and BMI, remember the KB jingles and some airchecks are under copyright and owned by Entercom, the production company or the talent; and the old commercials might be held by the advertisers or the ad agency.

Commercial clearence should be easy- don't know about the jingle packages.
 
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> In addition to paying ASCAP and BMI, remember the KB jingles
> and some airchecks are under copyright and owned by
> Entercom, the production company or the talent; and the old
> commercials might be held by the advertisers or the ad
> agency.
>
> Commercial clearence should be easy- don't know about the
> jingle packages.
>

I'm not expecting anybody to work for free. Remember, I know these guys pretty well too :)

ASCAP and BMI are covered by Live365 as part of their broadcasting package agreements (very reasonably, as long as it's a "hobby" station). They also have "professional" packages that pass along higher fees.

As far as clearance on old jingles and the like, that's where it gets interesting. I don't know the arrangement by which Entercom used all those old jingles (and even the WKBW calls, which of course, they did not own). If this is to be done, of course I would want all of it to be above board, with the approval and perhaps even cooperation of those involved. I look at it almost as a preservation or history project.

Keep those thoughts coming!

TS
 
> And which one might that be?
>
AM 640, but now I also believe that Chum group could better handle a "Toronto radio" as "City 1050" and that 640 should test the oldies/classic hit waters...this conversation should continue on the Toronto board though...<P ID="signature">______________
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>
>
> Keep those thoughts coming!

The problems with the jingles and music will be trivial compared to the BIG problem: selling the advertising. Good luck.
>
> TS
>
 
> > And which one might that be?
> >
> AM 640, but now I also believe that Chum group could better
> handle a "Toronto radio" as "City 1050" and that 640 should
> test the oldies/classic hit waters...this conversation
> should continue on the Toronto board though...
>
Lots 'o' things happinin' there but no one sayn boo.
What? Afraid a leak of info will get themselves fired?
What about stuff already goin' on?
Like that new promo guy for Jack Toronto for example? Hello? Anyone there?
The Toronto board is in some deep sleep mode, and it shouldn't be!
Looks like Derringer is leaving Q107 too...but you didn't hear that from me...
 
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> >
> >
> > Keep those thoughts coming!
>
> The problems with the jingles and music will be trivial
> compared to the BIG problem: selling the advertising. Good
> luck.
> >
> > TS
> >
>
For what it costs to keep the Live365 stream up, I don't really need to sell ads.
 
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> As far as clearance on old jingles and the like, that's
> where it gets interesting. I don't know the arrangement by
> which Entercom used all those old jingles (and even the WKBW
> calls, which of course, they did not own). If this is to be
> done, of course I would want all of it to be above board,
> with the approval and perhaps even cooperation of those
> involved. I look at it almost as a preservation or history
> project.
>
> Keep those thoughts coming!
>
> TS
>

One has to appreciate your efforts and zeal. More power to you. I'd presume that Entercom owns the rights to the jingles, as the company assumed ownership of "WWKB and its assigns" as the contract might have stated. But as to Entercom granting approval to the use of the jingles, I'd offer they care not a whit about preserving history... unless of course, there's $omething in it for them.
 
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