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KBCT-FM Waco

I drive by their studios in Waco every time I travel from my home in West Texas to see family in East Texas. I like some of the shows they have, but can't help thinking that KBCT has a lot of untapped potential. Can anyone give me any insight into this station?

Do they have local personalities? Local News? How are sales?
What's the company's goals? What direction are they planning on taking the station?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Not a lot of information available on them - however, they're a class A at 3.2kw - they're husband and wife owned - and according to their website, the bulk of their programming is all sat - doesn't look like they have local personalities - and they've got nothing on their site about local news.

Lastly, this is the only station, according to the FCC, that these people own - and they've had it for at least 10 years. I didn't do any other searching, but hope this info helps.
 
KBCT-FM has long been a joke in the Waco market, owned by a guy who "thought it would be fun" to own a radio station.

Talk is their 3rd format over the past 10 years. Started as Smooth Jazz, then, made a pitiful attempt at Texas Country...hands down the worst radio station I had ever heard, no exaggeration.

Their current attempt at talk is a slight improvement...but that's not saying much.

Lastly, next time you're passing through, I recommend using Highway 6 and I-35 (unless you're making a pit stop at Five Guys or Pei Wei).
 
I have a somewhat opposite opinion of KBCT in its early days. I really enjoyed the smooth jazz format, thinking it was better executed than any other station I had heard in the format. The opinion changed once they started voice tracking everything.

Of special interest to me was the lack of slamming the listener with liners between every song. I liked the lack of IDs. Let's get real, how many times do you need to tell the person who listens to your station at work that they should listen at work because they play the best music? Isn't that why they're listening? Waco's Spot For Jazz, KBCT used to ID themselves about 4 times an hour.

Another feature I liked was their sponsored music hours where the client got a few 10 second mentions in the hour without any additional talk. What a great feature for listeners, especially for workplace listening.

Sales had to be really tough with the big boys owning everything on the dial. It's really tough commanding your price in an over-radioed market when the big stations own every slice of the pie but you. Sales had to be the big factor.

The switch to country was dumber than dirt. Maybe if they opted for Red Dirt or a Texas Americana format! Now talk?!? At least that's cheaper but how do you compete when the top shows are elsewhere or you're always threatened with losing a prime show? Reminds me of the small market station that hit Evansville, Indiana. They lined up the best talkers, sold the little guys and started pulling ratings only to have the big boys take their best shows for their stations (as a syndicator what do you do when a company that runs a show on 100 of their stations says they want the show that's on that little small market station...you drop the little guy like a hot potato).

As for the guy thinking it would be cool to own a radio station, that describes everybody I ever worked for. I'd hate to work for somebody that didn't want a station. My former boss never knew radio but wanted a station. He liked not tossing his money out the window so he turned everything over to people that knew radio. And he made money and reveled in the reality that people in radio have a passion for the business that exceeds virtually every profession. He told me once he loved coming in because radio people loved what they do so much.

Can KBCT be a sales winner? Not likely. Can they be a ratings leader? Not likely. Their format choice must be one the big boys won't try to steal and the big boys must never see them as a threat to their ad dollars. The solution, go after small businesses that cannot afford the big boys. In one market I worked, there was a station that specifically sold cheap spots to clients that were too small to buy a meaningful advertising campaign with our stations. They had plenty of takers and they did okay while making a little money. As far as we were concerned, they didn't matter, but for that station, they found their place in the market, owned it and flourished.

I'm sure the position of KBCT, the market underdog, at the bottom of the heap, was and likely still is a joke. My station is but we laugh all the way to the bank...and the teller at the bank even chuckles. Hope the big boys aren't reading...I know nooothinng!!!!
 
bturner said:
In one market I worked, there was a station that specifically sold cheap spots to clients that were too small to buy a meaningful advertising campaign with our stations. They had plenty of takers and they did okay while making a little money. As far as we were concerned, they didn't matter, but for that station, they found their place in the market, owned it and flourished.

Not everyone is in radio "just for the money."
 
It was a decent little Smooth Jazz station. Ratings weren't great, but much better than now (or during that Texas Country debacle). As Smooth Jazz, they were heard in offices all over town. People actually knew they existed, which is no longer the case. Since then, it seems that the owner has invested very little into the station...no staff, no voice talent, no imaging, etc.

A far cry from your experiences!
 
I have to agree that Smooth Jazz was great in the beginning but once they went to voicetracking and bunching stop sets to the point you heard a string of commercials once an hour rather killed the station. The switch to country and now to talk as a computer in a closet with a couple of satellite dishes in the backyard were horrible decisions.

I think there were plenty of other options for KBCT. There has to be a format that can pull decent numbers that the others in town would allow to exist. I think KBCT and the one AM, is it 1010, are the only stand-alones in Waco.
 
Chuck said:
bturner said:
In one market I worked, there was a station that specifically sold cheap spots to clients that were too small to buy a meaningful advertising campaign with our stations. They had plenty of takers and they did okay while making a little money. As far as we were concerned, they didn't matter, but for that station, they found their place in the market, owned it and flourished.

Not everyone is in radio "just for the money."

Hey Chuck, have you lost your mind?
 
hayseed said:
Chuck said:
Not everyone is in radio "just for the money."
Hey Chuck, have you lost your mind?

Well, I understand completely. He can explain it better than I, but in the meantime check out his labor of love: www.kzqx.com/
 
Look what happened down the road in Belton with KTON-AM a few years ago. It was AM and daytime only (a very weak night signal) and programmed Classic Country by experienced local broadcasters. It was doing well, making money by selling to the folks who couldn't afford Cumulus stations or Clear Channel. I think it got up to a 2 rating at one point and was the highest rated AM in the market. Then it was sold, moved, and is now off the air. But, it goes to show you with the right people, local radio can still be done and survive against the big boys. I'm not saying CLassic Country is right for KBCT-FM but something can sound good and work. Too bad KTON with a long history in Bell County is gone forever, what a shame.
 
No, I haven't lost my mind. There are lots of small broadcasters who do this simply because they love it. That in itself is an adequate reward.

In fact, the station is doing much better than projections and is profitable. The funny thing is, if you do a good enough job at just about any endeavour, the money seems to come. Radio is no different. At least, that has been my life experience. It doesn't always come in fast enough to satisfy some people. Sometimes it doesn't come in enough quantity to save those who simply paid too much for the price of entry. Still, it will come if you are patient and doing your job properly. Wasn't it the Rolling Stones who said "You don't always get what you want, but you get what you need?"

When I got back into radio, my goal was to bring something different to the local airways and not go broke in the process. So far, so good...
 
Well said Chuck. I think Gordon McClendon said if you put the very best product possible on the air, the sales will take care of itself.

Lots of broadcasters get focused on sales to the point we fail to remember that it is the product we are selling. We all know sales is like the gas that runs the car but, as a metaphor, the car is what we are selling. There's no reason to sell people on a junk heap...it makes sales work way too hard. When there is a balance between sales and programming the sales happen simply by establishing relationships with potential clients. When the product is good, you simply sell yourself because they're sold on the programming already. We need to realize potential advertisers and listeners recognize an on air product that is quality.

I guess its a 'what comes first: the chicken or the egg'.
 
bturner said:
I think Gordon McClendon said if you put the very best product possible on the air, the sales will take care of itself.

A variation goes, "Take care of the listener and the ratings will take care of themselves."
 
fredcantu said:
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A variation goes, "Take care of the listener and the ratings will take care of themselves."

For some formats, it isn't even a question of ratings, just a decent number of loyal listeners. Our 12+ numbers suck, but we have advertisers who tell us that our spots work well for them. The trick is to match up advertisers with whatever audience you do have.
 
Chuck, Take a look at each and every one of these posts. They all mention money and/or paying the bills. Sorry man, but anyone who does this strictly for "the love of radio" doesn't do it very long if they aren't making money.
 
There's nothing wrong with doing what you like as long as you have some way of bankrolling it. Remember the first stations made their money selling radios. And some stations are sidelines for owner/operators who make their money elsewhere.
 
hayseed said:
Chuck, Take a look at each and every one of these posts. They all mention money and/or paying the bills. Sorry man, but anyone who does this strictly for "the love of radio" doesn't do it very long if they aren't making money.

If you will read my post again, you will note that we are making money. In fact, we are making more money than I projected. It is possible to do something you like to do and make enough money. They are not mutually exclusive concepts. One of the problems with radio in its current state is many investors want to make more than "enough." They want a cash cow, and that is not a realistic expectation, unless you do it by the "rape and pillage" method, which is exactly what has happened. The problem is you can only do that for so long before there is nothing left to dismember.
 
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