I didn't know the tinfoil hat crowd had a dog in this fight. Now I do. Yes, sigh.
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95-1's translator can be heard extremely well from Minute Maid Park/Downtown all the way to the Wharton in my car. Personally, I wouldn't call it an "inadequate signal," and of course car listening is the future of radio, as mentioned by yourself and other posters here (I think the majority of radio listening is in the car right now). I think if you were physically here in the Houston area and listened to Sangeet Radio terrestrially, I believe you would agree. 95-1, in my opinion, sounds just as good as KRBE in Harris, Fort Bend, and Wharton County. I haven't experienced the signal east of Harris, and I believe there is either an LPFM or translator that uses 95.1 to the east. KYKR out of Beaumont (also uses the frequency of 95.1) doesn't become a factor until you reach Anahuac or the Trinity River at best.
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CT, what many don't realize is that this is only the beginning. 5G is about to take a large part of our TV spectrum, as well as frequencies up into the GHz bands. We are going to be bombarded with this high band radiation, some not all that much different than what is now use to cook our food. And scientists are now working on technology to distribute electricity wirelessly. https://futurism.com/stanford-scientists-are-making-wireless-electricity-transmission-a-reality/ I work around large transmitters on a daily basis. I understand the dangers. I've been too close to powered antennas, and know the eyes blurring/watering that causes, not to mention the warm sensation. So I'm wary of what is being done/proposed. I'm sorry if it puts me in the tin foil hat crowd, but I think this 5G stuff/wireless electric transmission is not progress. There was a reason why Tesla's plans for wireless electricity got scrapped.
Except during tropo season, when KYKR will regularly obliterate the translator. Same for any translator in Houston with a full power counterpart in Beaumont.
You do realize the wireless you're already "bombarded" with is what's used to cook food, right? Consumer microwave ovens use the 2.4 GHz ISM band, same as half the world's WiFi.
Want make a wager? I bet you this is our old friend XXX.
As for the 5G frying our brains and organs, it's non ionizing radiation.
You don't think consumer microwaves operate in the 2.4 GHz ISM band? Google "microwave oven frequency" and let us know what you find.
Ask any SiriusXM radio user. Microwave ovens interfere with reception at close range if your antenna is indoors.
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LOL all this talk about radio going away. I literally just heard a commercial for NextRadio on a local station. They were talking about how turrestrial radio uses far less data/battery than streaming apps. The guy recording the commercial was sounding like turrestrial's the best thing in the whole world. However we all know that's untrue, as it's dying. I honestly wonder if he was just paid to sound all happy about radio, and if he really just listens to streaming apps all the time with unlimited data on his cell plan.
https://variety.com/2017/music/news/traditional-radio-faces-a-grim-future-new-study-says-1202542681/
Not everyone drives, and not everyone who does drive listens to turrestrial. Furthermore, not everyone who doesn't drive has an Android phone with a headphone jack. Apple has not and probably will never activate the FM chips in their phones. Sorry National Association of Broadcasters, but technology changes. You done crying yet? Hahahaha
https://variety.com/2017/music/news/traditional-radio-faces-a-grim-future-new-study-says-1202542681/
Not everyone drives, and not everyone who does drive listens to turrestrial. Furthermore, not everyone who doesn't drive has an Android phone with a headphone jack. Apple has not and probably will never activate the FM chips in their phones. Sorry National Association of Broadcasters, but technology changes. You done crying yet? Hahahaha
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To be fair, and to stick up for those radio geeks out there, I do like the headphone jack better than Bluetooth. Many Bluetooth devices I try to listen to my phone on are battery-powered, and 3.5 MM headphones do not need to be charged all the time. Furthermore, some BlueTooth devices have problems pairing up with my phone, when connecting headphones means plugging in a jack and anyone can do that.
Maybe, if the NAB pressures Apple/Google/others to activate the FM chips, they may start building USB to headphone adapters and use those devices to pick up FM signals...
Maybe, if the NAB pressures Apple/Google/others to activate the FM chips, they may start building USB to headphone adapters and use those devices to pick up FM signals...
Except the ‘FM chips’ in many phones are imaginary. The iPhone has no such chip, for example, and what would make Apple want to redesign their phones just to add one? SMH
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/28/whose-fcc-is-this/
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I once had an HD radio receiver for my iPhone. That's right, for my iPhone, it was built by a 3rd party and connected to the old style ;charging port on the 4S I had, using an external app.
Heck, the NAB could build a receiver and an app and sell it like crazy. But so far, they haven't. The HD radio app linked below no longer works, as most people do not have iPhone 4s.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hd-radio/id333257742?mt=8
Heck, the NAB could build a receiver and an app and sell it like crazy. But so far, they haven't. The HD radio app linked below no longer works, as most people do not have iPhone 4s.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hd-radio/id333257742?mt=8
FYI The NAB is not in the electronics business. And HD radio is a trademarked device that's owned by iBiquity.
So no, the NAB couldn't build a receiver.
I took a statistics class in college and it taught us not to take small surveys seriously.
With that being said, I've been inside approximately 100 homes over the last year, and I've seen four radios with terrestrial radio capability. Of those four, one was being used while I walked in.
I find it extremely hard to believe more people are listening to radio on a terrestrial basis at home than in the car. Extremely hard.
I do not, however, have any solid data to prove otherwise. I am also not a reputable company completing a national survey.
Did you tour the entire home? Or are you basing that just in the main living area?
What is a "radio with terrestrial radio capability?" I typically listen on my laptop. Doesn't that count? A PPM could pick it up.
A lot of people want to take their own personal experience and extrapolate that into some kind of larger truth. It isn't.
The iPhone had an FM chip until the iPhone 8. All prior models have chips in them. Why? Because some countries mandate them. This country does not.
However, the Chairman of the FCC has lobbied Apple to activate its chips. Of course, he could do what other countries have done, and mandate it.
Still there are millions and millions of working iPhones that have FM chips in them.
The FM chip is NOT "imaginary." Here is a list of devices with FM chips:
http://nextradioapp.com/supporteddevices/
What would make these companies add chips? An FCC mandate, for one thing. All phones must be certified by the FCC. So they could have a rule that in order to be certified, it must have a working FM chip. The FCC doesn't like mandating things for manufacturers, although they have no problem mandating rules for broadcasters. But this could change.
Sorry to disagree, Big A, but there is no way for even older iPhones to access FM radio. The physical connections do not exist (as pointed out already in the article previously linked), so an ignorant Ajit Pai pleading with Apple to ‘turn on the chip’ through software is about as useless as him giving away C band frequencies to the cell phone companies.
The point is the chip is there. People in other countries can access it. So the FCC telling Apple to stop it's discrimination isn't useless.
At the same time, a large number of radio stations stream their signal. Lots of people listen to AM/FM radio that way. We know this is true because of the widespread use of streaming sites like iHeartRadio, Radio.com, and TuneIn.com. AM/FM streaming is also starting to show up in traditional Neilsen ratings. So even if certain manufacturers are preventing their users from using the FM chip, there are still ways to listen to traditional radio on an iPhone.
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Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that many people still listen to the radio outside of their cars. And an even harder time believing that most sit through a bunch of ads without touching the dial on their car.
The only time I listen to terrestrial radio is for DXing purposes as a hobby and sports talk for when there is something I am interested in. The other 90% of the time is filled with Spotify music and podcasts. I'm just not buying all those stats that come from groups that have a horse in the race.
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