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KBSG call letters available!

Ok peoples! The legendary KBSG call letters are available! An insider just tipped me off on this. Apparently the Fall City LPFM got their call letters changed recently (they had the KBSG calls).

Check here: http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/callsign/mainch.pl and check it yourself. I predict this will be taken in the next few days.

Opportunity is knocking, Clear Channel but you'd better hurry! Here's my plan:

KJR AM/FM cannot be currently-branded together since there are two distinct formats. So KJR FM should buy 104.5 FM and then Sports Radio KJR will be AM/FM. Then, 95.7 FM wil be the "All New KBSG".

So we get Sports on FM and the KJR Oldies Rock format stays the same.

;)
 
These have been "available" for 3 weeks. The licensee for Fall City could not even give these away for whatever reason. More than one station was called before they were actually released.
Guy
 
They're out there, but KBSG is not the most valuable set of call letters. It's in the same unwanted pile of classic Puget Sound call letters as KETO, KQKT, KBAE, KGMJ, KLSN, KWWA, KYAC, KPCB, KGAA, KNWX, KASY, KAMT, KUPY, KJUN, KDFL, KYCW, and KCMU........
 
Bongwater said:
They're out there, but KBSG is not the most valuable set of call letters. It's in the same unwanted pile of classic Puget Sound call letters as KETO, KQKT, KBAE, KGMJ, KLSN, KWWA, KYAC, KPCB, KGAA, KNWX, KASY, KAMT, KUPY, KJUN, KDFL, KYCW, and KCMU........

As unbelievable as it may seem, I completely agree with you Bong.. Hobbyists are the only ones who care about classic call letters. Listeners just know when they press a certain preset on their radio, they expect to hear whatever programming. Call letters are only valuable (even that is in question) to the station at the time they're using them. After call letters or slogans are passed on or replaced, very few care.
 
Interesting discussion. It's hard to believe that there isn't any value in the KBSG call letters. In point of fact, isn't Clear Channel using Tacoma's KNBQ calls for their Centralia station? Or how 'bout KLSY down in South Bend?

Gottcha Guru!
 
If only classic call letters were worth as much as classic cars...

I believe the only part of KNBQ that was valuable was the Q. Some of these old calls have a ring to them, but with stations identifying as Star, Sunny, The Eagle, The Sound, The Quake, etc, I don't know how much the calls mean anymore.

But if anyone wants KLSY, send $$$ and we'll work something out...

Wolf
 
If you are in a PPM market, calls mean very little since there is no need to write them in a diary.


CBS did park the once legendary WBCN calls on an expanded band in the middle of nowhere to keep them for future use/ away from the competition.

Why anyone would want them in the future is beyond me. WBCN's P1 from their best years is now well over 55, and closer to 70! The ratings for their last 2 years were in the toilet, 16th place in the 6+ was a norm.

These days calls mean nothing it is the imaging and slogans being put out there for listeners to remember, and they are as disposable as the formats and calls. As long as your listeners know to tune to Frank FM, it matters not what the calls are.
 
Exactly! Call letters were used in the old days as slogans are used today. And just like call letters, they expire in any promotional value when not used by a particular station.

Somehow I doubt Clear Channel thought.. 'Since KNBQ (call letters of a former rock station) is available again, this will drive sampling to our country station!' It was merely because those call letters were available at the time and as somebody suggested, contained the letter Q.
 
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
If only classic call letters were worth as much as classic cars...

I believe the only part of KNBQ that was valuable was the Q. Some of these old calls have a ring to them, but with stations identifying as Star, Sunny, The Eagle, The Sound, The Quake, etc, I don't know how much the calls mean anymore.

But if anyone wants KLSY, send $$$ and we'll work something out...

Wolf

BossBill, if you and Guru don't think call letters have value then why do you want $$$ for KLSY? Sounds like call letters do indeed have value.

Can you explain that?
 
I don't know how much Rogers paid CTV/CHUM for the CFUN calls which resurfaced on 104.9 after 1410 went All Sports (now CFTE.....Team 1410), but I heard rumors that it was substantial. Sad thing is you only hear the CFUN calls during legal ID's, the rest of the time it's strictly "104.9 Fun FM".
 
BossBill, if you and Guru don't think call letters have value then why do you want $$$ for KLSY? Sounds like call letters do indeed have value.

Can you explain that?

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Sure. I didn't pay for the calls, they just came with the license. And I'm not trying to sell the KLSY calls, I'm fine with them. But if someone thought they had value, I'd be happy to accommodate. Same thing with KJET, which I think are great calls, except that KJET has value because I've spent several years building the brand.
 
Dan said:
I don't know how much Rogers paid CTV/CHUM for the CFUN calls which resurfaced on 104.9 after 1410 went All Sports (now CFTE.....Team 1410), but I heard rumors that it was substantial. Sad thing is you only hear the CFUN calls during legal ID's, the rest of the time it's strictly "104.9 Fun FM".

The CFUN calls seemed awfully strange when they were a talk station, which was anything but fun to listen to.....
 
I would think as broadcasting and Internet merge you would see more companies putting value in their calls on the Internet after all the easier a domain is to remember and to type the more likely people are going to find you on the Internet, yet many stations choose to own dreadfully long sloganized domain names many of which are painful to remember much less type in correct.
 
Well, my take on this, is because of the "95" number, 95.7 KJR-FM should stay the same, but 104.5 once they get a complete air-staff and commercials (and better audio processing), should be the one to get the KBSG calls, since they took over their music format.
 
swhyde1980 said:
Well, my take on this, is because of the "95" number, 95.7 KJR-FM should stay the same, but 104.5 once they get a complete air-staff and commercials (and better audio processing), should be the one to get the KBSG calls, since they took over their music format.

What is the benefit to the listeners here?
 
AQH said:
swhyde1980 said:
Well, my take on this, is because of the "95" number, 95.7 KJR-FM should stay the same, but 104.5 once they get a complete air-staff and commercials (and better audio processing), should be the one to get the KBSG calls, since they took over their music format.

What is the benefit to the listeners here?

It may not be peace in the Middle East or the return of Robin & Maynard, but Northwest oldies fans can sleep soundly knowing the KBSG calls are secure and home right here in Puget Sound.
 
Bongwater said:
AQH said:
swhyde1980 said:
Well, my take on this, is because of the "95" number, 95.7 KJR-FM should stay the same, but 104.5 once they get a complete air-staff and commercials (and better audio processing), should be the one to get the KBSG calls, since they took over their music format.

What is the benefit to the listeners here?

It may not be peace in the Middle East or the return of Robin & Maynard, but Northwest oldies fans can sleep soundly knowing the KBSG calls are secure and home right here in Puget Sound.

And there are people who do not get a good night's sleep because of the absence of the KBSG call letters on the Seattle dial?
 
A few people have said that wouldn't it be great if First Broadcasting picked up the KBSG call letters and then returned the KMCQ calls to Eastern Oregon. There's a station down there near The Dalles called "KWCQ" operated by Haystack Broadcasting. Here's their coverage map:

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101356055&qnum=5240&copynum=1&exhcnum=1

That would be really funny if that happened. So after an 8 year absence, KMCQ comes back home, after a shift of perhaps 25 allotments. Pretty crafty idea.
 
AQH said:
Bongwater said:
AQH said:
swhyde1980 said:
Well, my take on this, is because of the "95" number, 95.7 KJR-FM should stay the same, but 104.5 once they get a complete air-staff and commercials (and better audio processing), should be the one to get the KBSG calls, since they took over their music format.

What is the benefit to the listeners here?

It may not be peace in the Middle East or the return of Robin & Maynard, but Northwest oldies fans can sleep soundly knowing the KBSG calls are secure and home right here in Puget Sound.

And there are people who do not get a good night's sleep because of the absence of the KBSG call letters on the Seattle dial?

It's what they make Nytol for.....
 
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