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KBTV Channel 4 Beaumont to Drop NBC, Join FOX

I see where you're going; each pair of markets is
the same (or almost the same) distance apart yet
they're all separate markets. Here's the catch:
all of the pairs of markets have their own ABC, CBS,
and NBC stations except Lafayette and Lake Charles
(Lafayette doesn't have an NBC affiliate). Now is it
possible that KATC or KLFY could put NBC on 3-2 or
10-2 and eliminate the need for Lake Charles' station?
 
bpatrick said:
I see where you're going; each pair of markets is
the same (or almost the same) distance apart yet
they're all separate markets. Here's the catch:
all of the pairs of markets have their own ABC, CBS,
and NBC stations except Lafayette and Lake Charles
(Lafayette doesn't have an NBC affiliate). Now is it
possible that KATC or KLFY could put NBC on 3-2 or
10-2 and eliminate the need for Lake Charles' station?

Of course, it's possible in any TV market for a station to start at digital subchannel.

I don't know if they still do, but KPLC's legal ID used to display "KPLC Lake Charles/Lafayette"; it also used to provide a Lafayette-specific cable feed.
 
The problem with subchannels is that they are not HD. There is some debate as to whether you can pull off two 720pm HD channels, but I've heard it causes smearing problems in action sequences and sports.

As for adding cities to your legal ID, anything is possible after the call letters and the official community of license, I worked at a border blaster TV station years ago that had a visual ID that read XRIO-TV Matamoros-McAllen. The audio had the true ID, ''XHRIO Matamoros.''
 
fredcantu said:
As for adding cities to your legal ID, anything is possible after the call letters and the official community of license, I worked at a border blaster TV station years ago that had a visual ID that read XRIO-TV Matamoros-McAllen. The audio had the true ID, ''XHRIO Matamoros.''

Of course, being a Mexico-based license, I would assume that XHRIO wasn't required to follow FCC regulations.
 
True. But every rimshot in the US does the same thing. I wonder if there's a record for the longest distance city tagged on to a legal ID.
 
fredcantu said:
The problem with subchannels is that they are not HD. There is some debate as to whether you can pull off two 720pm HD channels, but I've heard it causes smearing problems in action sequences and sports.


XHRIO TV is broadcast in HD(granted only in 720p) and is a subchannel of KNVO. It is on 48.3. Of course 48.1 not being in HD may explain why it is able to broadcast in HD.
 
I can only imagine what kind of tranmitter equipment XHRIO has today. It went on the air in 1979 with second hand equipment bought from KPRC in Houston. I remember visiting the site back then. I noticed the tower was not painted. Recently I came across a web site that posted SCT (Mexican FCC) citations. In 2002 XHRIO was cited for not having the tower painted orange and white. That was 23 years later! I'm not surprised they're not broadcasting in HD while their competitors Televisa, TV Azteca and Multimedios are.
 
I heard the other day that KFDM has threw their name in the hat to get NBC programming. It would run on one of their digital sub-channels.
 
radiodog2 said:
XHRIO TV is broadcast in HD(granted only in 720p) and is a subchannel of KNVO. It is on 48.3. Of course 48.1 not being in HD may explain why it is able to broadcast in HD.

So....KNVO's 48.1 is strictly 480P? Or perhaps 480i? Don't they have any HD programming on that network?
 
mmnassour said:
radiodog2 said:
XHRIO TV is broadcast in HD(granted only in 720p) and is a subchannel of KNVO. It is on 48.3. Of course 48.1 not being in HD may explain why it is able to broadcast in HD.

So....KNVO's 48.1 is strictly 480P? Or perhaps 480i? Don't they have any HD programming on that network?

I don't think that the Univision network has even gone HD yet. KNVO broadcasts in 480i.
 
fredcantu said:
bpatrick said:
And slightly off-topic: why have Lafayette and Lake
Charles never been combined into one market?

Lafayette and Lake Charles are 70 miles apart as the TV signal flies. Houston and Beaumont are 70 miles apart. San Antonio and Austin are 70 miles apart. Baton Rouge and New Orleans are only 65 miles apart. Does that answer your question?

Howdy! Just read this bit of thread, and found the off-topic bit interesting. I've sometimes wondered what criterion the FCC used way back when to decide to collapse a market city "pair" into one. You cite examples to the contrary, now try this one on for size...Texarkana AR/TX and Shreveport/Bossier City LA were collapsed into one market in 1960, and they are about 75 miles apart...and both had full power (or almost full power) TV stations broadcasting in them in 1960 (KCMC/KTAL 6 in Texarkana, KTBS 3 and KSLA 12 in Shreveport). KCMC built a 1500' tower halfway in between in 1960, and KTAL and KTBS soon followed, thus giving two markets three healthy full-power stations they might not have been able to support in the 60's by themselves. I would have thought BPT and Lake Charles would have made an equally good market pairing.
 
Actually the FCC doesn't make those calls. Nielsen does, and I believe it's based on what channels people watch, based on over-the-air viewership.
 
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