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KCET to break from PBS

I suppose that PBS's plan of KVCR, KOCE, and KLCS forming a "consortium" could be a plausible idea, forming a "Southern California PBS" network. You could possible have each station kept its own programming schedule, but simulcast select programs as it permits.

It's not really unusual to have PBS stations broadcasting in the same market to merge their operations...recent examples include Long Island's WLIW joining forces with Newark/NYC's WNET, and ditto San Jose's KTEH and San Francisco's KQED.
 
ShawnHill1 said:
To follow-up on my comments, the Orange County Registrer confirmed, and it's really no surprise, that KOCE will be the primary PBS affiliate, and they plan on coordinating with KLCS and KVCR in forming a "quasi-network" of sorts.
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As a graduate from Golden West College (home of KOCE) I am :D
 
So what will KCET do to fill in the gaps where viewers once found The Newshour, Nova, Nature, Antiques Roadshow, Sesame Street, Tavis Smiley, This Old House, America's Test Kitchen, etc.

In NYC, city-owned non-commercial Channel 21 WNYE does program many of its evening shows itself with a rag-tag bunch of independent producers doing shows on the cheap. Some of them look only one step up from Public Access. Daytimes on WNYE feature some PBS kids and cooking shows but that's about it. They run news in English from Deutche Welle and France 24. But I don't think many people watch the channel and it would never survive if it wasn't owned by the Board of Education and instead had to depend on donors. I'm sure WNET has ten times the viewers that WNYE has.

Has KCET explained the reason for this move? Why is WNET NYC awash in cash and KCET is struggling? Now with digital TV, WNET being on VHF while KCET was always on UHF isn't a factor amymore.


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The question is will Tavis Smiley and BBC world news still be on PBS because before the PBS ID is shown at the end of BBC News and Tavis Smiley it says "This show has been Sponsored by KCET Los Angeles" Which PBS station will sponsor these shows if KCET is gone?.
 
recto101 said:
The question is will Tavis Smiley and BBC world news still be on PBS because before the PBS ID is shown at the end of BBC News and Tavis Smiley it says "This show has been Sponsored by KCET Los Angeles" Which PBS station will sponsor these shows if KCET is gone?.
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Since Tavis Smiley owns his show but has a distribution contract with PBS, it's likely that the show could still be produced by KCET, renting its facilities in this case, but would only be seen by PBS affils (of course, it may be cheaper for KOCE to produce it even though KCET has much better facilities. I've seen both stations). Here in the US, BBC World News is licensed through Discovery, so KCET would have to license it through them to broadcast it. However, in most other countries, BBC World News is Free-To-Air.
 
Carmine5 said:
Here in the US, BBC World News is licensed through Discovery, so KCET would have to license it through them to broadcast it.
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Doesn't WLIW near New York City distribute BBC World News to PBS stations?
 
azumanga said:
Carmine5 said:
Here in the US, BBC World News is licensed through Discovery, so KCET would have to license it through them to broadcast it.
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Doesn't WLIW near New York City distribute BBC World News to PBS stations?
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WLIW used to distribute BBC World News until 2009 when KCET took over to distribute BBC World news.
 
In today's L.A. Times (11/10) there is an article outlining the some of the programming we can expect to see on the post-PBS KCET.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-1110-kcet-schedule-20101110,0,211511.story

It's an unusual hodgepodge of programs that, in many ways, mimics PBS--including the airing of BBC comedies and dramas as well as shows from Canada and Japan. As I mentioned, Tavis Smiley will not be part of the line up.

It will be interesting to see what other programs they secure. But being free of PBS and having a clean slate to work with might yield an innovative line up for KCET.
 
Why would a TV station based in the movie capitol of the world run a weekly show hosted by a Chicago film critic? Makes no sense to me at all. Just a cheap and lazy approach to programming.
 
TheBigA said:
Why would a TV station based in the movie capitol of the world run a weekly show hosted by a Chicago film critic? Makes no sense to me at all. Just a cheap and lazy approach to programming.
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For the simple reason that Ebert is well known and respected. Where he lives is immaterial. For that matter, using your reasoning, why not confine all comedy and dramatic programming to whatever is produced in Hollywood? After all, KCET is in the center of what is often called the filmmaking capital of the world.
 
Carmine5 said:
For the simple reason that Ebert is well known and respected.
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So there's no one well known or respected in LA? Wow.

Look, this is a station that has taken the lazy way out for a very long time. At some point, they need to come up with programming that THEY can syndicate to other stations in smaller markets, not take left-overs and second-rate crap from anyone they can find just to make the meters bounce.
 
TheBigA said:
Carmine5 said:
For the simple reason that Ebert is well known and respected.
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So there's no one well known or respected in LA? Wow.

Look, this is a station that has taken the lazy way out for a very long time. At some point, they need to come up with programming that THEY can syndicate to other stations in smaller markets, not take left-overs and second-rate crap from anyone they can find just to make the meters bounce.
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As the management of KCET says, it's a work in progress. I'm sure the sudden loss of PBS is causing these people to scramble to assemble a schedule for January. And I know their studios have been tied up on a rental basis (although they do produce the Tavis Smiley Show).

I expect, in time, KCET will develop and produce some of its own programming as well as acquire shows produced by local independents. Hey, at least they haven't scheduled "Judge Karen's Court"--yet.
 
Carmine5 said:
As the management of KCET says, it's a work in progress. I'm sure the sudden loss of PBS is causing these people to scramble to assemble a schedule for January.
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It was their choice. They could have hung on with PBS until they came up with something appropriate for market #2 with a $35 million budget. I promise you I could have come up with at least one show in the months since they made this announcement. They're a bunch of useless office jockeys.
 
Who is KCET fooling by have a pledge drive right now? Let's see, all this pledge drive material you are seeing right now will not even be a consideration in a little more than a month. Is this a last ditch effort to drum up some cash before circling the drain as an independent?
 
Many PBS stations are having pledge drives right now, just in time for the holidays.

That being said, do KCET's pledge programming mention anything about PBS? Kind of funny to give money to your local station carrying PBS, knowing that PBS won't be there anymore.
 
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