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KCTA's nighttime application history

OK, rent-a-preachers pay in advance, and KCTA is doing pretty good. I can understand that. No one, however, is answering the question of whether they believe KCTA would earn more with a News/Talk format.

To wit:

KCTA Weekday Lineup:

5:30-9:00AM Good Morning South Texas!
9-11AM Glenn Beck
11-2PM Rush Limbaugh
2-5PM Sean Hannity
5-8PM Corpus Christi Call-In Show (title pending)
 
93-3TheSurge said:
OK, rent-a-preachers pay in advance, and KCTA is doing pretty good. I can understand that. No one, however, is answering the question of whether they believe KCTA would earn more with a News/Talk format.

To wit:

KCTA Weekday Lineup:

5:30-9:00AM Good Morning South Texas!
9-11AM Glenn Beck
11-2PM Rush Limbaugh
2-5PM Sean Hannity
5-8PM Corpus Christi Call-In Show (title pending)

I agree but you must take into consideration WHO runs radio in corpus christi. Basically for a long long time the same bunch of nuts. And they will do whatever they can to keep good proven people out by spreading the same old rumors that the same old people believe.
 
Do you realize the expense of putting on a news/talk format versus playing recorded pre-paid programs? A talk format might bring more revenue, but the religious informercials may bring in more profitable.
 
fredcantu said:
Do you realize the expense of putting on a news/talk format versus playing recorded pre-paid programs? A talk format might bring more revenue, but the religious informercials may bring in more profitable.

If that were true, then why aren't WOAI, KTRH, WBAP, WWL, and all the other great 50kWs all jumping on the religious format bandwagon?
 
93-3TheSurge said:
If that were true, then why aren't WOAI, KTRH, WBAP, WWL, and all the other great 50kWs all jumping on the religious format bandwagon?

A. None are daytimers.
B. None are in market 137

Paid religion is a profitable and viable format for daytimers and other signals that are not competitive.
 
DavidEduardo said:
A. None are daytimers.

Sure they are a daytimer, but the biggest talk shows occur during daytime programming anyway, so that's not a problem.

If KCTA became a News/Talk format and thought nighttime programming were an absolute must, it could simulcast on an FM station. But again, Coast to Coast, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, etc., wouldn't be worth the cost of acquiring an FM.

DavidEduardo said:
Paid religion is a profitable and viable format for daytimers and other signals that are not competitive.

Sure its profitable, but go back to the question I posed earlier: Would KCTA earn more revenue by flipping to a news/talk format?

If you are looking for low risk, low reward, then KCTA is going down the right path.

It's my opinion that KCTA would be more successful if they switched to a news/talk format, but it would be a gamble as you are stepping into the unknown. If you marketed the station poorly, then sure, it could tank. Good marketing, though, would make KCTA, (as a news/talker) the #1 AM station in Corpus Christi.
 
93-3TheSurge said:
opinion that KCTA would be more successful if they switched to a news/talk format, but it would be a gamble as you are stepping into the unknown. If you marketed the station poorly, then sure, it could tank. Good marketing, though, would make KCTA, (as a news/talker) the #1 AM station in Corpus Christi.

You already have KEYS-1440 as a news/talk/sports station, and KKTX 1360 as a Clear Channel owned news/talker.

KKTX was 4th 12+ and 7th 25-54 in the last book. It's 11th or 12th in billings, and KEYS is about 14th.

Since Clear Channel = Premiere, and there are already two NT stations in the market, a third one would take the leftover syndicated shows. Since there is not even $1 million in n/t billing between the two, one could hardly afford much marketing. And daytimers are not the first choice for syndicators... and there is no big rush to get into a very small market like that.

Both stations cover the rated market fairly decently (they were the two big Top 40's back in the day of AM top 40) so there is really no need for a third entry in the format... although at some point one of them may try to take the lead by moving to FM to improve its demos.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Both stations cover the rated market fairly decently (they were the two big Top 40's back in the day of AM top 40) so there is really no need for a third entry in the format... although at some point one of them may try to take the lead by moving to FM to improve its demos.

Neither cover the market like KCTA does. If KCTA wanted to get into the news/talk game, it would have its pick of the top on-air talent. No one is worried about KKTX or KEYS being a competitive threat.
 
93-3TheSurge said:
DavidEduardo said:
Both stations cover the rated market fairly decently (they were the two big Top 40's back in the day of AM top 40) so there is really no need for a third entry in the format... although at some point one of them may try to take the lead by moving to FM to improve its demos.

Neither cover the market like KCTA does. If KCTA wanted to get into the news/talk game, it would have its pick of the top on-air talent. No one is worried about KKTX or KEYS being a competitive threat.

The "market" is two counties, and both of those stations cover almost all the population well.

Further, as I said, the amount of good syndicated programming that KCTA could get is limited because Clear owns both Premiere and KKTX and the remaining stuff is on KEYS.

A daytimer, a third-station in, and an AM too boot is a sure formula for failure.
 
93-3TheSurge said:
DavidEduardo said:
Both stations cover the rated market fairly decently (they were the two big Top 40's back in the day of AM top 40) so there is really no need for a third entry in the format... although at some point one of them may try to take the lead by moving to FM to improve its demos.

Neither cover the market like KCTA does. If KCTA wanted to get into the news/talk game, it would have its pick of the top on-air talent. No one is worried about KKTX or KEYS being a competitive threat.

As far as "covering the market". KKTX and KEYS do just fine. Would putting Rush, Hannity, etc.....into Falfurrias, Freer, Three Rivers, Port Lavaca, Hebbronville really do more for KCTA than it does for KKTX?

People in San Antonio aren't gonna listen to KCTA when they can get the same thing on WOAI. Folks in Houston won't be tuning into 1030 to get the same programs they can get on 740. I live in the RGV and can tell you KURV has a better signal down here than KCTA.

There's a reason KCTA has been a religious station for the past 50+ years. It's profitable, and it provides a service that no other station does. Perhaps the owners are more concerned with spreading the Gospel than getting rich, anyway.
 
93-3TheSurge said:
OK, rent-a-preachers pay in advance, and KCTA is doing pretty good. I can understand that. No one, however, is answering the question of whether they believe KCTA would earn more with a News/Talk format.

It's hard to answer when you don't know exactly how much KCTA is getting from the rent-a-preachers. Religious broadcasting has always been a very secretive club. Rent-a-preachers don't tell how much they pay, and broadcasters who take their money don't tell how much they charge.

Assuming they could get good talk shows, which is a big assumption, their spot rate would certainly go up. However, it's hard to say if selling :30 and :60 second spots would make more money than selling large blocks of time to rent-a-preachers. Keep in mind, also, that operating as a news/talk station would cause their expenses to go up dramatically. Doing a news/talk format correctly requires a large staff.

5:30-9:00AM Good Morning South Texas!
9-11AM Glenn Beck
11-2PM Rush Limbaugh
2-5PM Sean Hannity
5-8PM Corpus Christi Call-In Show (title pending)

I can tell you this lineup will never happen. As has been mentioned, Clear Channel controls the distribution of Rush and Hannity. There is simply no way they will give those programs up so someone else can start a new competitor to 1360. Any amount of money Clear Channel would make from letting a competitor have Rush and Hannity would be more than offset by the amount they'd lose on either trying to operate 1360 as a talker with other hosts or trying to run another format on 1360. The likelihood of KCTA getting quality talkers to compete against Rush and Hannity is pretty slim because the other two of the top-4 talk shows are public radio programs (Morning Edition and All Things Considered) that aren't available to commercial broadcasters at any price.

As for your question of why the big talk stations are doing talk instead of paid religious, there are two reasons. The first of which is that they're making an amount of money they're happy with on talk radio. Remember, Clear Channel, which owns WOAI, KTRH and KKTX, controls the distribution of many of the best talk shows. By airing programming they already own, they can contain costs and effectively get dual revenue streams. They increase their national ad revenue by clearing their shows in their various markets and can sell the local spots during those shows. Independent operators aren't nearly as lucky, though they can still do well by running the top talk programs. Business has always been about making an amount of money you're happy with. Whether that's $10 million or $10, you will never see any changes at an operation that's happy with its cash flow.

The other reason is simply that rent-a-preachers, like quality talk hosts, are limited in supply. Not just anyone who runs a radio station can fill their lineup with rent-a-preachers. We're already seeing some would-be rent-a-preachers who have decided it's easier to run their programming on the internet as opposed to going out and paying various broadcasters. Broadcasters, remember, have a price, too. They won't sell blocks of time to rent-a-preachers who won't pay what they ask.

Something else to remember is that you often have talk programs that are paid programming on your leading talkers. I worked for a small market talker that had a 10 share in the ratings a little over five years ago that brokered much of the weekend lineup out. There was a program with a veterinarian that the animal hospital paid for. There was also a show called the "Garden Spot" that a local nursery paid over $50,000/year to run. We briefly aired a golf-oriented program on Sunday evenings called "Par Talk" that was brokered out. In fact, the PD was even pretty upset about "Par Talk" because one of the sales managers sold an hour a week of her station's airtime without consulting her. However, there was nothing she could do because the management and ownership weren't going to walk away from that kind of money. It's entirely possible that the large talkers are already brokering out portions of their lineup!
 
fredcantu said:
What kind of share does AM radio get in Corpus Christi these days anyway?

In the last 4 books, it has been between 9% and 15% of total listening... just bouncing, not a trend up or down. Most of the shares go to the two talkers, which had about 70% of the total AM shares in the last book. The under-55 shares are more in the 5 to 8 range, though.
 
I was in Corpus Christi earlier this week and I was able to catch XEMAT 1030AM out of Ciudad Madero during nighttime hours. So, at least for that particular night, Corpus Christi had a 24-hour station broadcasting on 1030AM.
 
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