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KD cuts back Chris Moore, good move or rearranging deck chairs?

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So, is the cut-back of Chris Moore to only Sunday instead of Saturday and Sunday a clever move as part of a larger project to turn KDKA-AM around, or is it an example of rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship?
 
> So, is the cut-back of Chris Moore to only Sunday instead of
> Saturday and Sunday a clever move as part of a larger
> project to turn KDKA-AM around, or is it an example of
> rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship?
>

Supposedly, it's part of a plan to bring in another "leftish" host for Saturdays.

Personally, I never though Moore was that good a radio personality, so to me it's no great loss.

The only thing is--if Moore isn't replaced on Saturdays, KDKA loses a local weekend voice. Better to have a crappy local host than an infomercial, says I.
 
> > So, is the cut-back of Chris Moore to only Sunday instead
> of
> > Saturday and Sunday a clever move as part of a larger
> > project to turn KDKA-AM around, or is it an example of
> > rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship?
> >
>
> Supposedly, it's part of a plan to bring in another
> "leftish" host for Saturdays.
>
> Personally, I never though Moore was that good a radio
> personality, so to me it's no great loss.
>
> The only thing is--if Moore isn't replaced on Saturdays,
> KDKA loses a local weekend voice. Better to have a crappy
> local host than an infomercial, says I.
>

Admittedly, Chris is not my cup of tea on weekends. But he is a intelligent man, who has lived a pretty full life, and brings that life to the AM 1020 airwaves (not to mention Channel 13 during the week). I think KDKA is making a mistake if this cutback of this rare non-sports local weekend talk show just means more of the mixed bag of crap and filler that passes for weekend radio on these fight-to-the-death-on-weekdays "news talk" stations.
 
> > > So, is the cut-back of Chris Moore to only Sunday
> instead
> > of
> > > Saturday and Sunday a clever move as part of a larger
> > > project to turn KDKA-AM around, or is it an example of
> > > rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship?
> > >
> >
> > Supposedly, it's part of a plan to bring in another
> > "leftish" host for Saturdays.
> >
> > Personally, I never though Moore was that good a radio
> > personality, so to me it's no great loss.
> >
> > The only thing is--if Moore isn't replaced on Saturdays,
> > KDKA loses a local weekend voice. Better to have a crappy
>
> > local host than an infomercial, says I.
> >
>
> Admittedly, Chris is not my cup of tea on weekends. But he
> is a intelligent man, who has lived a pretty full life, and
> brings that life to the AM 1020 airwaves (not to mention
> Channel 13 during the week). I think KDKA is making a
> mistake if this cutback of this rare non-sports local
> weekend talk show just means more of the mixed bag of crap
> and filler that passes for weekend radio on these
> fight-to-the-death-on-weekdays "news talk" stations.
>

See my note below ... McIntire starts Saturday on KDKA.
 
I say bad move

They are both wacky libs. I remember Moore championing a friend who believed gas should cost $10 a gallon (!) and McIntyre's insane babble can be seen for yourself on the City Paper's website.

But the difference here is that Moore IS charming, whereas McIntyre is insulting and not at all as bright as Moore. Plus, Moore gave a perspective of race relations that while I didn't always agree with it, was VERY educational.

It speaks very poorly of KDKA that they would think that "insulting" converts into "witty and irreverent"- as the PG called McIntyre today- or that they believe it would attract a younger audience.
 
Re: I say bad move

> They are both wacky libs. I remember Moore championing a
> friend who believed gas should cost $10 a gallon (!) and
> McIntyre's insane babble can be seen for yourself on the
> City Paper's website.
>
> But the difference here is that Moore IS charming, whereas
> McIntyre is insulting and not at all as bright as Moore.
> Plus, Moore gave a perspective of race relations that while
> I didn't always agree with it, was VERY educational.
>
> It speaks very poorly of KDKA that they would think that
> "insulting" converts into "witty and irreverent"- as the PG
> called McIntyre today- or that they believe it would attract
> a younger audience.
>

Good points.

By the way, I erred about the name of the show. It's KDKA LIFE Lounge, not Lite Lounge. Either way, I can envision all the lounge lizards gathered around their radios Saturday night, particularly those who desperately need a life.
 
Maybe so, maybe no.

> They are both wacky libs. I remember Moore championing a
> friend who believed gas should cost $10 a gallon (!) and
> McIntyre's insane babble can be seen for yourself on the
> City Paper's website.

I don't dispute that they share a more left-of-center perspective than I would ever want to listen to if the show was just a political gabfest. However, since the new "KDKA Lite Lounge" show is touted as "the first show of its kind in Pittsburgh to mix issues, music, conversation and commentary.", perhaps the host's personal views won't be such a major part of the mix. Then again, perhaps they will.

I'll be honest about this. I never watch PCNC on cable. McIntyre might have a small cult following among a few people who did watch his cable TV show. I don't know how large or small that following is. Frankly, had I seen some sort of advertising or promotion about his cable show, I might have tuned in to check it out. Then again, maybe I wouldn't have. I definitely wouldn't have surfed around the TV Cable dial and sampled it by accident, not with the Comcast remote that let's you surf program titles without having to watch snippets of them as you surf.

But the description of combining issues, music, converstation, and commentary sounds to me like a retro throwback to magazine format radio like NBC's old "Monitor" program from yesteryear. Depending on the proportions of the four elements, such a format could be a real winner or a total loser. Predicting in advance how well it works is like trying to predict whether a four-piece rock band will be a success when you only know the singer, and not who'll be playing guitar, bass, or drums.

> But the difference here is that Moore IS charming, whereas
> McIntyre is insulting and not at all as bright as Moore.
> Plus, Moore gave a perspective of race relations that while
> I didn't always agree with it, was VERY educational.
>
> It speaks very poorly of KDKA that they would think that
> "insulting" converts into "witty and irreverent"- as the PG
> called McIntyre today- or that they believe it would attract
> a younger audience.

McIntyre alone won't attract squat, no matter what he does. His name isn't well known enough to draw huge numbers of people, regardless of how many of his cable TV fans are willing to start tuning him in on Saturday nights. Hell, how many younger listeners even listen to the radio at all on Saturday night?

The only really positive thing I'm guessing that McIntyre might bring to the party is enough talent to play the role that's written for him. If disc jockeys can manage to adjust their performing styles to handle shifting from one music format to another, then I'll give McIntyre the benefit of the doubt and assume that he can do the same thing.

When I was active in AFTRA as a free-lance actor, I auditioned with a lot of local radio people, including DJ's, news reporters, and TV booth announcers. Some were better than others, but most of them knew enough about acting to adjust their performance to suit the script. Being a radio talk show host isn't all that much different. Any competant professional performer should be able to adjust his style to accomodate the demands of the show's producers.
 
Re: I say bad move

***Even though I am hardly Liberal in my views I've enjoyed listening to Chris Moore for several years. When the skywave is kicking in I am able to tune into KDKA and fairly often on a weekend night (sports not withstanding) I'd listen to his program. He's one of the very best non Conservative talk show hosts I've heard. He does not talk down to his audience and his style encourages you to think. Hopefully they will rethink this move.



> > They are both wacky libs. I remember Moore championing a
> > friend who believed gas should cost $10 a gallon (!) and
> > McIntyre's insane babble can be seen for yourself on the
> > City Paper's website.
> >
> > But the difference here is that Moore IS charming, whereas
>
> > McIntyre is insulting and not at all as bright as Moore.
> > Plus, Moore gave a perspective of race relations that
> while
> > I didn't always agree with it, was VERY educational.
> >
> > It speaks very poorly of KDKA that they would think that
> > "insulting" converts into "witty and irreverent"- as the
> PG
> > called McIntyre today- or that they believe it would
> attract
> > a younger audience.
> >
>
> Good points.
>
> By the way, I erred about the name of the show. It's KDKA
> LIFE Lounge, not Lite Lounge. Either way, I can envision all
> the lounge lizards gathered around their radios Saturday
> night, particularly those who desperately need a life.
>
 
Re: Maybe so, maybe no.

You really are an ass sometimes. McIntyre is very well known in the Pittsburgh community. Just because YOU never heard of him doesn't mean he's got "a small cult following" and "won't attract squat". And he had billboards or bus boards or something or other, as well as cross-promotion on WPXI and even radio promos for Night Talk. You really will just write any damned old thing you come up with in your head, won't you. You should really check your facts before you condemn a man you've admittedly never even heard of (and necessarily, you've never seen/heard) to failure.

> > They are both wacky libs. I remember Moore championing a
> > friend who believed gas should cost $10 a gallon (!) and
> > McIntyre's insane babble can be seen for yourself on the
> > City Paper's website.
>
> I don't dispute that they share a more left-of-center
> perspective than I would ever want to listen to if the show
> was just a political gabfest. However, since the new "KDKA
> Lite Lounge" show is touted as "the first show of its kind
> in Pittsburgh to mix issues, music, conversation and
> commentary.", perhaps the host's personal views won't be
> such a major part of the mix. Then again, perhaps they will.
>
>
> I'll be honest about this. I never watch PCNC on cable.
> McIntyre might have a small cult following among a few
> people who did watch his cable TV show. I don't know how
> large or small that following is. Frankly, had I seen some
> sort of advertising or promotion about his cable show, I
> might have tuned in to check it out. Then again, maybe I
> wouldn't have. I definitely wouldn't have surfed around the
> TV Cable dial and sampled it by accident, not with the
> Comcast remote that let's you surf program titles without
> having to watch snippets of them as you surf.
>
> But the description of combining issues, music,
> converstation, and commentary sounds to me like a retro
> throwback to magazine format radio like NBC's old "Monitor"
> program from yesteryear. Depending on the proportions of the
> four elements, such a format could be a real winner or a
> total loser. Predicting in advance how well it works is like
> trying to predict whether a four-piece rock band will be a
> success when you only know the singer, and not who'll be
> playing guitar, bass, or drums.
>
> > But the difference here is that Moore IS charming, whereas
>
> > McIntyre is insulting and not at all as bright as Moore.
> > Plus, Moore gave a perspective of race relations that
> while
> > I didn't always agree with it, was VERY educational.
> >
> > It speaks very poorly of KDKA that they would think that
> > "insulting" converts into "witty and irreverent"- as the
> PG
> > called McIntyre today- or that they believe it would
> attract
> > a younger audience.
>
> McIntyre alone won't attract squat, no matter what he does.
> His name isn't well known enough to draw huge numbers of
> people, regardless of how many of his cable TV fans are
> willing to start tuning him in on Saturday nights. Hell, how
> many younger listeners even listen to the radio at all on
> Saturday night?
>
> The only really positive thing I'm guessing that McIntyre
> might bring to the party is enough talent to play the role
> that's written for him. If disc jockeys can manage to adjust
> their performing styles to handle shifting from one music
> format to another, then I'll give McIntyre the benefit of
> the doubt and assume that he can do the same thing.
>
> When I was active in AFTRA as a free-lance actor, I
> auditioned with a lot of local radio people, including DJ's,
> news reporters, and TV booth announcers. Some were better
> than others, but most of them knew enough about acting to
> adjust their performance to suit the script. Being a radio
> talk show host isn't all that much different. Any competant
> professional performer should be able to adjust his style to
> accomodate the demands of the show's producers.
>
 
Re: Maybe so, maybe no.

I see. YOU'VE heard of him, so he's "well known". Let's see, how much of the Pittsburgh population has to know of someone for him to be "well" known? Does one need 5% name recognition to be "well" known? Or does one need 10%? 20%? It amazes me how some pompous fools will get into nitpicking arguments over whether someone is "well" known or if there are "plenty" of fans of something, when there is no measurement for things like "well" known or there are "plenty" of fans. If you think having your name recognized by 10% of the population is "well" known, fine. I think that to be considered "well" known, you have to be known by a much larger percentage of the population.

And as for checking facts, you should try reading an entire post. I said that McIntyre's new show might well be a winner. I gave him more professional credit as well, as indicating that I thought that if he was the pro everyone of his fans claims he is, he could adapt to whatever role was appropriate for this new show he's going to be on.

I can post something in which I list both the pros and the cons on something as I perceive them, and you'll only read the cons and then get your knickers in a twist not because you disagree with what I say, but because I'm not a member of your exclusive little club.

> You really are an ass sometimes. McIntyre is very well known
> in the Pittsburgh community. Just because YOU never heard of
> him doesn't mean he's got "a small cult following" and
> "won't attract squat". And he had billboards or bus boards
> or something or other, as well as cross-promotion on WPXI
> and even radio promos for Night Talk. You really will just
> write any damned old thing you come up with in your head,
> won't you. You should really check your facts before you
> condemn a man you've admittedly never even heard of (and
> necessarily, you've never seen/heard) to failure.
>
> > > They are both wacky libs. I remember Moore championing a
>
> > > friend who believed gas should cost $10 a gallon (!) and
>
> > > McIntyre's insane babble can be seen for yourself on the
>
> > > City Paper's website.
> >
> > I don't dispute that they share a more left-of-center
> > perspective than I would ever want to listen to if the
> show
> > was just a political gabfest. However, since the new "KDKA
>
> > Lite Lounge" show is touted as "the first show of its kind
>
> > in Pittsburgh to mix issues, music, conversation and
> > commentary.", perhaps the host's personal views won't be
> > such a major part of the mix. Then again, perhaps they
> will.
> >
> >
> > I'll be honest about this. I never watch PCNC on cable.
> > McIntyre might have a small cult following among a few
> > people who did watch his cable TV show. I don't know how
> > large or small that following is. Frankly, had I seen some
>
> > sort of advertising or promotion about his cable show, I
> > might have tuned in to check it out. Then again, maybe I
> > wouldn't have. I definitely wouldn't have surfed around
> the
> > TV Cable dial and sampled it by accident, not with the
> > Comcast remote that let's you surf program titles without
> > having to watch snippets of them as you surf.
> >
> > But the description of combining issues, music,
> > converstation, and commentary sounds to me like a retro
> > throwback to magazine format radio like NBC's old
> "Monitor"
> > program from yesteryear. Depending on the proportions of
> the
> > four elements, such a format could be a real winner or a
> > total loser. Predicting in advance how well it works is
> like
> > trying to predict whether a four-piece rock band will be a
>
> > success when you only know the singer, and not who'll be
> > playing guitar, bass, or drums.
> >
> > > But the difference here is that Moore IS charming,
> whereas
> >
> > > McIntyre is insulting and not at all as bright as Moore.
>
> > > Plus, Moore gave a perspective of race relations that
> > while
> > > I didn't always agree with it, was VERY educational.
> > >
> > > It speaks very poorly of KDKA that they would think that
>
> > > "insulting" converts into "witty and irreverent"- as the
>
> > PG
> > > called McIntyre today- or that they believe it would
> > attract
> > > a younger audience.
> >
> > McIntyre alone won't attract squat, no matter what he
> does.
> > His name isn't well known enough to draw huge numbers of
> > people, regardless of how many of his cable TV fans are
> > willing to start tuning him in on Saturday nights. Hell,
> how
> > many younger listeners even listen to the radio at all on
> > Saturday night?
> >
> > The only really positive thing I'm guessing that McIntyre
> > might bring to the party is enough talent to play the role
>
> > that's written for him. If disc jockeys can manage to
> adjust
> > their performing styles to handle shifting from one music
> > format to another, then I'll give McIntyre the benefit of
> > the doubt and assume that he can do the same thing.
> >
> > When I was active in AFTRA as a free-lance actor, I
> > auditioned with a lot of local radio people, including
> DJ's,
> > news reporters, and TV booth announcers. Some were better
> > than others, but most of them knew enough about acting to
> > adjust their performance to suit the script. Being a radio
>
> > talk show host isn't all that much different. Any
> competant
> > professional performer should be able to adjust his style
> to
> > accomodate the demands of the show's producers.
> >
>
 
YEAH! DARN TOOTIN'!

I don't know if Mac will succeed or not- I'm better the latter.

But I do know this- he doesn't have the stones Radio Realist does!

GIVE 'EM HELL REALIST! I LOVE IT!
 
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