I don't know if that could even happen given that newer TV's are more on the streaming side. Also the current demos of Los Angeles are different than when KDOC started nearly 4 decades ago. Various TV apps are filling in the void that KDOC left behind like Freevee and Pluto TV but then again there's more apps than that though doing the same thing.
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KDOC-TV sold
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Here is the hand off with KDOC's previous format flipping to religious programming from TCT.
Here is KDOC's special ID's showing the past.
Here is the ABC7 crew doing their final newscast for KDOC for 2 reasons one is ABC7 is on their respective TV apps and KDOC getting flipped to Religious programming.
That's not one of the reasons. KDOC was going to renew the news agreement with KABC (this is true, btw) prior to the news that KDOC was being sold to TCT.
Then why did KDOC sell? All I’ve seen on social media is “this isn’t the real reason why they sold”. What was the reason? Especially since they claim they had “significant cash flow”
I depends on how you view it (no pun intended)...
KDOC filled a void, in this day in age, in that even though most of the programming (at least 3/4s of its standard broadcast day) they were airing was also on other Los Angeles stations (particularly from Channels 5, 9, and 13), 56 would air these shows at more decent times, whereas the other stations would put these same shows late nights and/or overnights.
Now that KDOC is going all-religious, many of those shows (regardless of what you may think of the quality of each program) are going to be stuck in late-night purgatory especially on 5 and 9, because of each station's own commitment to news programming in various dayparts. Keep in mind, currently more than 14 hours of KTLA's weekday schedule each day is dedicated to news, and KCAL is set expand their news schedule in the coming weeks...like someone else suggested here--either KCOP takes on the shows that were exclusive to KDOC (Bob's Burgers, Impractical Jokers, Forensic Files, The First 48, Storage Wars, and Young Sheldon), or some other local broadcaster (as someone else yet suggested, one of Alex Merulo's stations or even the Ulloa stations [LOL]) steps-up and becomes the "second" independent station for greater Los Angeles.
Too bad to see KDOC go...I think things could have been a little different in terms of promotion if KDOC changed their virtual channel designation on TV sets to channel 12 (12.1). They have been operating on VHF ch 12 since the last re-pack. They would have been right up there with the big boys: 7, 9, 11, and 13 who operate in digital on their original VHF channel. Obviously programming is almost everything, but given a choice would you rather be on channel 56 or channel 12. As it'said in Real Estate: Location, Location, Location !!
It stinks. i work in tv now. We’re only adding newscasts because syndicated programming is expensive and hard to sell. With doing news, it’s easier to sell local direct and tv stations own the revenue without having to give it to someone else. For many indie/corporately owned stations across the country, if you thought AM radio is worthless…lol!
May I ask for whom? And where are you adding newscasts in? I do a blog about this type of stuff. Lol.
What rule would be violated?
73.682(d), which incorporates by reference ATSC A/65C (2006). See Annex B, number 1 of that standard.
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I read Annex B. It seems to me that with so many years past the "digital transition" period, these rules are outdated. I believe that there is no practical reason why any broadcaster should not be able use the channel number on air with which they are actually broadcasting. Its ludicrous.
One exception of course would be here in Los Angeles, as KWHY (v22) now operates on VHF ch 4, as KNBC has been using UHF ch 36 from the digital beginning. KNBC would be grandfathered in. It would seem to me that ch 12 should be appropriate for KDOC to use as its "major channel", to use the FCC term. Ch 12 has never been used in this market except for a short time by an LP station. Even XEWT down the coast doesn't use it anymore.
I don't know if anyone would consider this big of a deal, but along with what Tomas' statement regarding channel placement...maybe KDOC should have requested to Spectrum and Cox (since they're the two main MVPD providers in Southern California, from Bakersfield all the way down to San Diego) to be placed on a specific channel number, like the UHFs in Palm Springs and San Diego. That of course would have required some channel shuffling elsewhere, but it could have perhaps helped in promoting KDOC amongst the other commercial stations in town.
With Spectrum as an example, some areas get KDOC on channel 19 (such as central Los Angeles), other areas it's carried on either channel 6, 10, or 29; on Cox (again, depending on location), it's either on channel 6 or 12, but Frontier and AT&T U-verse have it on 6.
With Spectrum as an example, some areas get KDOC on channel 19 (such as central Los Angeles), other areas it's carried on either channel 6, 10, or 29; on Cox (again, depending on location), it's either on channel 6 or 12, but Frontier and AT&T U-verse have it on 6.
I agree, but KMEX ch 34 has been located on Spectrum Cable at Ch 12 forever, so in terms of cable location that probably wouldn't fly. I was mostly concerned with OTA tv. I think that for everybody watching by antenna KDOC should be able to display 12.1. It makes total sense.
Non-existent KTBV-LD has 12. in Los Angeles. They have been off the air for a long time. The last time I saw them on the air was when they were at Oat Mtn. Their license shows them near to Burnt Peak SE of I5 and Hwy 138. This site has not power since a fire destroyed the power lines there and the Forest Service will not permit SCE to replace the power poles.
Big Bear Lake-licensed KZNO-LD, which broadcasts in ATSC 3.0 and transmits from Mount Harvard (nowhere near the city of license, not sure how legal that is) also uses virtual channel 12.
For those who may not know Oat Mt is the highest point North of Chatsworth/Porter Ranch
The debate was who was the biggest baffoon? Both Wally George and Gene Scott were quite entertaining.
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