When did this become enforced. I know I’ve ran the board for many, many talks shows. Programmed and scheduled and have never been told to include this - and we had people that bought airtimeThey do. A station was fined because of it. That's why stations do it.
Salem agrees to pay FCC fine of $50,000 over "live" programming
Salem Media Group has agreed to pay a $50,000 civil penalty after one of its stations violated federal requirements over pre-recorded programming.thedesk.net
There is no such law for satellite or streaming radio.
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Why do we nitpick what songs are on the Eagle? If the listeners like it, who cares? ive even seen Facebook comments praising the Eagle for keeping the mavericks on 97.1
Did you read the linked article? It gives a date
I‘m working a baseball game right now. Didn’t have time to read
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Damn, @exdjted. My eyes got a little watery reading that. If ever there was a better mic drop moment on this board, I haven't witnessed it. Well stated, and nothing additional needs to be said. A fantastic weekend to you, sir.
First of all, I can't believe my eyes.
WOW!
Speaking of Weezer, they posted a Facebook post about the band. That poor Facebook page is just laughable.
Not only is that not a core band on The Eagle, they had ONE rock hit from 1994-2020:
Weezer Songs ••• Top Songs / Chart Singles Discography ••• Rock VF, Rock music hits charts
Weezer Top Songs • #1: "Beverly Hills" • #2: "Back to the Shack" • #3: "Pork and Beans" • #4: "Africa" • #5: "The End of the Game" • #6: "Buddy Holly" • #7: "Hash Pipe" • #8: "Feels Like Summer" • #9: "Troublemaker" • #10: "Perfect Situation"... • Rock VF, Rock music hits charts
www.rockvf.com
Why would anyone nitpick the main content? I dunno, to get listeners maybe? Did ya SEE the ratings before it changed to the Freak? They didn't like it, so I guess I care. Seemingly I care more than anyone there.
My Son had some of his friends over the other day. We were sitting in the garage and I asked them all, "What was the last cool thing you heard on radio."
They laughed. Not one of them had ever listened to the radio, "Unless like when we were little and our Mom had it on." (Direct quote)
So if we're not affecting or touching people from 20-30, and looking at allllll these posts on here DEFENDING it - what will eventually happen? I'll concede my time to the people on their perches here to school me.
They laughed. Not one of them had ever listened to the radio, "Unless like when we were little and our Mom had it on." (Direct quote)
So if we're not affecting or touching people from 20-30, and looking at allllll these posts on here DEFENDING it - what will eventually happen? I'll concede my time to the people on their perches here to school me.
Yes, we know. Your kids have no idea what their dad once did. But they're glad you pay their online subscription fees.
Those kids in their 20s will get older, and hearing the latest band won't matter anymore. They'll be ready for a curated free music service. Just like Gen X.
Do you know the #1 station in Dallas for people your son's age? KLNO Que Buena. I bet none of your kid's friends listen to it. But it's #1 in all demographics.
Maybe you & your son should start your own online radio station. That way you can put your money and your opinions where your mouth is.
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Look at the rock genre alone.
There are literally tons of amazing NEW ROCK artists coming out each and every day, with brand new music that is astonishingly good not just in sound quality but also in artist integrity and originality.
For anyone that questions the validity of this statement I would say to just go on Spotify and search for new releases.
And unlike in decades past, radio is nowhere to be found in breaking these artists.
Rock stations are still spinning the same old RHCP and Tool tracks from literally 25 years ago.
It's like a commercial alternative station in 1995 playing T-Rex and Blondie in heavy rotation as opposed to Weezer and 311.
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Actually my Son has been around me my entire career. When he listens to old bits we did, he laughs and sends them to his friends, and on about 1000 occasions he's asked me why no one on the radio does that now days. My answer is "It's all because of a nipple Son. A simple nipple." That was the day great content on the radio died. Now days you guys defend Mavericks basketball and Ben and Skin on the radio. That's how far it's been shoved down into a hole.
I'm not talking about hearing the latest band, I'm talking about it's a generation that will be left behind, and one that does engage with radio. So radio will be even deader. What's with you? Why does a long explanation always have to be written for you to understand?
It's the chicken and egg question. Which came first? In this case, do young people not listen to the radio because the music of their generation is not being played? Or because young people don't listen to the radio, even alternative and active rock stations must rely on 30 year old music for more mature listeners?
I think it's the latter. You could create a radio station with the finest contemporary rock, alternative or active, and nobody would listen because young people don't use radio anymore. Alternative and Active Rock stations play so much library material because they must catch over-40 listeners who still use the radio.
I think it's the latter. You could create a radio station with the finest contemporary rock, alternative or active, and nobody would listen because young people don't use radio anymore. Alternative and Active Rock stations play so much library material because they must catch over-40 listeners who still use the radio.
Hey there.
I agree with you. Except for the Tool. I can listen to that all day.
There are tons of great bands out there putting out material. I have a best friend in a local band that's gotten airplay. He tells me stories about how they have to pay now to get radio airplay. He said it's wide open. The more you pay, the more they'll play. If you're RHCP or Tool, you don't have to worry about that, but if you're a new band, you gotta pay.
The whole concept of the basics of the industry have completely changed. I'd also add the validity of radio has changed. In other words, because you have a radio station doesn't mean there's more validity to the content than a podcast done by Uncle Harry down the street. It's eaten itself. And what's worse is, radio people and radio companies (just read the comments from these people) don't want to believe it, live in denial, and refuse to change things to try to harness some of that validity and bring it back.
Furthermore, there are some exceptionally creative people that would love to lend a hand to make it better, but radio companies are so strapped for cash, all they're doing at this point is trying to build cume and what little revenue they can so that they can ultimately sell these companies. Over the past year, iHeart's stock is down by -47.58%. It plunged -36% just three days ago because the 1st quarter of the year was that bad. And keep in mind, that is WITH all the cuts and downsizing they've done. Having said that, of which all is 100% accurate, one of these people will come here and try to either refute or defend. It's what I live for.
I do podcast consulting, and the other day I got a client that does a show interviewing comedians, but the brunt of the content is World culture. So it's him, his buddy and a comedian from a different part of the World talking about life in their Country. It was unbelievably creative, executed perfectly, marketed well (With 300,000+ downloads per show.) The two gentlemen that do the show are based in the U.S., own and operate their own restaurant, and have never - not one time been guided by programmers or consultants. They rent out a studio to do the show so it sounds professionally done. As I'm sifting thru their shows listening and evaluating content, I kept wondering if there's any commercial radio station that would in a million years, air their show. The answer is no. It doesn't have an agency, it's not represented, it doesn't have a ratings trail, It isn't syndicated by one of the syndication companies - etc. Radio is too dumb to just simplify what it does, which is to generate great content that captures an audience. That's it.
This forum doesn't seem to be for the betterment of a flailing industry, it seems to be for defense of the flailing industry. (Or more likely, people who have blinders on who don't want to see what's right in front of their face.)
Now if that gets you stompin' mad - it is well.
I don't disagree with you bro. I myself who's way older than he wants to admit - NEVER listen to the radio unless I'm in the car, and that's only because I like being pissed off.
My family in our home, have several speakers throughout the house that are connected to Alexa. Several times during the day and night you will hear someone say, "Alexa play Tennessee Whisky" - and 4 seconds later, voila, there it is. No commercial, no traffic, no horse sh*t.
Radio USED to be a place to discover NEW music and it used to be where you went to see what was cool. It can't be that way any more because companies are paying the old secretary to do the mid day show to read liner cards. VALIDITY - there is none.
I hear a lot of people that talk about Octane on Sirius. They've done a great job of establishing itself as the epicenter of breaking new rock/metal. It's respected for that. So that's proof that it can be done, it just isn't proof that anyone in radio would have HALF the size balls needed to do it, do it correctly, and let it breathe.
All of the things you identified won't change the fact that people don't buy radio devices anymore. That's not a recent thing. It happened a long time ago. It changed at the same time you were on the air doing the bits you talked about, playing the music you've been talking about. KEGL could make all the changes you want, and it won't get people to throw away they computers & phones, and instead buy radios. So you have to start there.
Then you have to talk about the music. The music changed completely in the 90s. It became more individual. When you were growing up, you could identify an entire generation by the music they listen to. Not so now. Everybody has their personal favorites, and that's what they want to hear. They know what they like, and they don't need or want a DJ to tell them what to like.
I'm primarily talking about rock and alternative music. You don't see this problem in country. You never see people arguing over music in country. You go over to KSCS, and more than half of their music is either currents or recurrents. They're breaking new artists every day. It's become such a incredible place that artists like Jelly Roll and Hardy, who previously had hits in the rock world, have taken their careers to country radio. Right now, the biggest record on country radio is Post Malone's duet with Morgan Wallen. Right behind that, you have Kane Brown & Marshmello. Why don't you see that in rock or alternative radio? That's the question you should be asking.
Read what I just wrote above. You're right. They're coming out, making great new music that exists in obscurity because it lacks record label promotion and focus. Just playing new rock bands on the radio is not enough. That may have worked 40 years ago, but it doesn't work now. There needs to be an organized machine that promotes the music the way it was done 30 or 40 years ago. Read the books by the people who were in the music business back then. Remember how it was done. Because it's not being done in rock music anymore. Rock bands get signed, and they're on their own. No promo, no publicity. They find their audience by touring all the time and by super-serving their fan base. But it takes more than that to move to the next level the way the bands of the 80s & 90s did.
What I'm saying is it's not just a radio problem. KEGL could change their approach and play 50% currents like KSCS, and it wouldn't work. You'd see pages of people arguing about why are they playing this and not that. Only in the rock format do you see that. You don't see it in Urban, Country, or any other radio format. The various Hispanic formats are very popular and very well managed. That's why a Spanish language radio station KLNO is #1 in Dallas and in all of the demographics.
My view is that iHeart could have changed KEGL to a country station and it would immediately double its share. Why? Because the country radio audience has more consensus about their music & lifestyle. They're like Taylor Swift fans. They don't get tired of hearing the same songs, they don't complain about too much old music because country radio only plays currents and recurrents. Gold on the country is ten years old. They blew up KPLX and put all the 25 year old songs there. Country is the new pop. The musicians know it, the record labels know it, the artists know it, and the fans know it. Coachella was started as a big rock festival. Now it's all pop, and the biggest festival is Stagecoach. This year they saw Jelly Roll, Eric Church, Morgan Wallen, Post Malone, and Hardy. It was the biggest story in music.
You're exactly right. Lots of new music that no one's heard of. At the same time, do the same search for country new releases, and it's all being played right now on country radio. Why is country radio able to play currents, and rock radio isn't? Consensus. No arguments over the music. Everyone agrees that this is great music, so it gets played. That's what's missing from rock.
Do you know who Koe Wetzel is? If not, look him up. He's based in Texas. You see his show, and wonder why he's not getting played on rock radio. He's got three guitars wailing away at the front of the stage like Lynyrd Skynyrd. But he's a country band. Why? Because there's more infrastructure in country. He's touring with country artists and they love his music. It's changing the sound of country music to the point where people your age don't like it because they say it's not country. That's why KPLX changed to play 90s country. They're two different formats really. They both get great ratings and make tons of money. Cumulus sold its stations in NY and LA, but not Dallas.
Kid Rock gets it. Of course he's a redneck anyway. But he realized that the music changed, and he's better off hanging out with country bands than rock bands. They revere him like he's the pope.
I'm baffled at the format. (Rock) I was at WIOT for about 4 years, and it was just CONSTANT Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Zepplin, Heart, etc. Once an hour we'd play a current, but it had to be like a current that had spent 4 weeks at #1 3 months ago. It was consistently, and still is, ranked in the top 5. It has Bob and Tom guiding the ship - a show that to my ear is as dated as the music. But the people there LOVE them. LOVVVVVE THEM! In the Midwest, at least, it seems the format is stuck in time.
Most formats in modern day (musically) still have artists that inspire loyalty, but rock music seems to be a forethought. And it's hard to figure out exactly why or how that happened. We have the Foo Fighters, Shinedown, and a few others, but if you think about it, those bands are 'classic rock'.
I dunno. I"m babbling.
The bands inspire loyalty, but not on a mass level. That's what's missing. For that, you need a strategy. To get a strategy, it helps to have infrastructure like a label and an agent. Maybe also a big name publicist. Everybody knows who Dolly Parton is, but they don't play her music, and her last big hit was 40 years ago. A few years ago, she signed a new publicist and a consultant. They got her into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and led to the making of her first rock album. Nobody in rock or country radio played it. But it got her attention like she hasn't seen in 20 years. That's why I say: It's the people. Not just the artist or the music.
Zach Bryan is selling out stadiums without radio airplay. He gets great research at Spotify, and awful research at radio. Why? He mainly appeals to men. Country radio could do a whole format built around people like Zach. It would get better ratings than the current active rock format. But it wouldn't make as much money as mainstream country.
I work with artist managements, and I see it there all the time. They can't see the forest through the trees. Their whole focus is on touring, and that's just a small part of the package. There needs to be more to move the artist to the next level.
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