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KENR history

I know this has been covered on the board before. But some recent posts have once again led me to reminiscences of the old KENR.

Anyone else here have memories of that station? (Not to date myself but I myself have some fond memories of hearing the station growing up in the 1970s.)

One specific question I have is when the station started up. Was it 1969? Or earlier than that? (Or maybe 1969 was the year of a format flip from top 40 to country?... I think I'm too young to remember that.) :)

It would seem to me that the station was strong throughout the 1970s (correct, no?) but declined at some point in the 1980s. I'd surmise that this was both because of the general trend at that time away from music on AM (of course, as a side note, it would seem that, in 1982, the then-new KKBQ-AM bucked that trend for a time) and because of the early-1980s (1981, wasn't it?) format flips of KILT-AM and KILT-FM to country.

Thoughts and/or memories, anyone?

(BTW, a short while after I posted this, I noticed Chuck Tiller's post a little down the board regarding KENR and 1983. Interesting tidbit that I'd missed.) :)

Chuck Tiller post mentioned above: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=664945&Board=houston<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Cybelesown2 on 02/24/06 07:31 PM.</FONT></P>
 
To set this ball in motion, I have to explain a few things about that time in Houston radio, which involved several stations. Actually there is more to all of this. I'm skimming some of the things that happened because this is going to be long.

KENR came on the air around 1967 as a 5000watt daytime radio station on the U.S./Candian clear channel, AM 1070. (I remember in my youth, asking a KENR DJ, when would KENR go 24 hours.) He said never! 5 years later, it indeed went 24 hours and with 10KW day and 5KW night. Early DJs on Keener Country were Eddie Kilroy, who would go on to Nashville as a record producer, Jacky Ward, who also left for Nashville to become a singer and was famous for the song, "Big Blue Diamond." KENR went through quite a few DJs while battling the well established KIKK. In 1972, things would begin to change.

With KENR going 24/7, Leroy J. Gloger, the owner of KIKK was afraid it was all over for KIKK 650. Unfortunately, he did not have the foresight of what was to happen with 95.7 in it's near future. He sold it to Sonderling Broadcasting. Now, KIKK 650 was starting to slowly unwind. Dave Morris, who owned KNUZ/KQUE decided he had lost the Top 40 battle to KILT. Plus, 5000 watt 790 KULF was hurting KNUZ, as well. "Country Fresh Kay-news" was born in 1973. He persuaded Arch Yancey to leave KIKK and come over and program KNUZ. It would never beat KENR and Houston was discovering FM with its flat terrain and easy to listen, KIKK-FM was making inroads. KIKK-FM with 100KW and KENR with 10KW was killing KNUZ with it's kilowatt, day and 250 watts at night. Oh boy! KNUZ was at best, a "punch." In other words, if you didn't like what you heard on KIKK or KENR, you punched up KNUZ. However, I must state that KNUZ had some of the best country DJs in the city, as well. Alas, it was not going to help. When KILT-FM went country in 1981, KNUZ died. I was on the air at KNUZ, the night of the day FM100 made the change. The phones died. It was over. KNUZ would become the "Roots of Rock 'N Roll" soon after. Of course, this would also signal the beginning of the end for KENR.

When both KILTs went country, KENR had become "Keener Country Gold." This would not last. KILT (both of them) and KIKK-FM were killing them. In 1982, the new management at Lake Huron changed KENR to "The Radio Magazine, KENR." It was newstalk with a lot of feature material. Former KNUZ morning jock, Joe Ford was tapped to do the morning show. Chuck Scott from KHTV-39 was doing the news along with New Yorker, Penny Crone, doing a lot of entertainment and fluff news. (She had a difficult time fitting in) John Greer and Mark Seegars were doing sports. Mike Shiloh was there as well. Actually, we had a pretty big staff. I joined KENR in the spring of 1982. When we weren't broadcasting news, we played music from SMN. The music was standards. I always wondered why they would do that, after all, 280,000 watt KQUE, 102.9 was playing that music. (YES! 280,000 watts. When KQUE came on, it was allowed, because there weren't many FMs on the air. However, when KQUE wanted to move up on a higher tower, the FCC, said, "Yes, but you have to go down to 100KW.") See what I mean, by involving several stations in this.

Bob Scott, became the program director at KENR in August of 1982. At this time, the Magazine was on in the morning, but no other daypart. They wanted to evolve the station, instead of changing it all at once. Why? I don't know, but I sure liked that check. Bob filled the dayparts. Sarah Smith was on in the middays. I became the afternoon host of the Magazine, along wish Marsha Carter who did the news. George Lester was on from 7PM-midnight. The Astros were also on at night. We were still playing music at night and the overnight shift. Howard Reynolds was on from midnight to 4AM. The Bob Stephenson outdoor show was on at 4AM with the outdoor page. At 5, the morning page of the magazine began with Joe Ford.

By November or so, the music changed to a light AC. By New Years 1983, The Radio Magazine KRBE had begun. While 1070 was being altered constantly, you had to know that they were doing the same to the FM. They decided to put the Astros on 104, as well. The Astros were not happy with the signal of 1070. Simulcasting them on the FM would keep the Astros happy. This also was good for KKBQ who was now underway, quickly dismantling the prominence of the former "Superock." I was fired in the summer of '83. On the 1st week of June, management told me, the Magazine was through by the end of the week. "Chuck, we want you to stay. Would you like to do afternoons and play music?" I told them, yes. By Wednesday, I was told that they wanted me to do middays, as they would simulcast mornings and afternoons with 104. I said, okay. While I was on the air Thursday afternoon, a memo went out to the KENR news department to have a meeting. Since, I was now a DJ again, I did not attend. On Friday at 1:55PM, I was told it was my last show on KENR. I said, okay. (At this point nothing suprised me anymore, anyway) Around 3PM, I get a call from Howard Reynolds. "Chuck, they fired me last night. I couldn't do a last show."

Howard told me since the KENR country library was still intact, would I go get Johnny Paycheck's "Take This Job and Shove It" and play the song when I went off as my last song. I felt it was a good request. At 2 minutes and 40 seconds to 6pm, I did my good-byes for Howard, the other staff and myself and dedicated the song to Lake Huron Broadcasting. Of course, I backtimed it perfectly to include the station ID and go straight into ABC News at 6pm.

Monday morning, I went to get my check. I was told since, I had not attended the News meeting on Thursday, that I had quit. I told them, "Oh no. You fired me." They disagreed. I told them I would wait for my check. I sat in the lobby for a little while. They came and told me, if I did not leave, they would call the police. I said, "Please do. When they get here I will explain a little Texas law to you. When you fire somebody, you have to pay them. While we are waiting for the police, I will call the TV stations and let them know what's happening." As I ran my fingers through my beard, I said, "Hmmmmmm I can see it now, local DJ arrested at KRBE for attempting to collect his check. Thats gonna look real good, isn't guys?" They capitulated. I remember thinking to myself, "Carpetbaggers!" Don't mess with a Texan. LOL

I would return to KNUZ, part-time and play the "Roots of Rock 'N Roll." By November 1984, I began a 13 year run at KILT. I was in radio heaven.
 
> Former KNUZ
> morning jock, Joe Ford was tapped to do the morning show.
> Chuck Scott from KHTV-39 was doing the news along with New
> Yorker, Penny Crone, doing a lot of entertainment and fluff
> news. (She had a difficult time fitting in)

Penny Crone is now on the Howard 100 news team at Sirius. For those that don't know, there are two live Howard 100 news reports each day on the Howard Stern channel. All the news is Howard-centric, whether it's about him, the staff, a guest, or a tv show that was mentioned on the show, it's all Howard Stern related, and it's pretty damn good. When there aren't regular shows running, whether it's the Howard Stern Show, Bubba The Love Sponge, or any other special program, the Howard 100 news reports run on a continuous loop as filler on the channels. Penny Crone has been doing a series of pieces these past couple of weeks about the pet peeves of Stern Show staffers and cast members about their fellow co-workers.

Also the other day, Penny Crone got duped. She tried getting an interview with Ronnie the limo driver's wife to get comments about something that happened on the show that day involving him. Ronnie put one over on here imitating his wife's voice. This was an embarrassment to the Howard 100 news team who take their jobs VERY seriously. Despite the subjects on which they're reporting, everyone on staff has a background in "real" news. George Flowers is the lead anchor, Ralph Howard is his co-anchor at 6pm, and Liz Aiello (who I believe was a producer with ABC News) is the news director.
 
I remember her. Her voice was nauseating. I saw her on a New York tv station a few years ago. But, to get this thread back on track to the history of kenr, i do remember the radiomagazine. Chuck, didn't you used to do something called the Texas history page? It seemed like i heard you doing these pages as well as your aftrnoon show. Also, you would play Grover Washington jr when you would talk.
 
Thanks a bunch, Chuck. What a fascinating account!

Of course, it strikes me as kind of a "doughnut" (or 45-RPM record?) account, heavy on the beginining and end of the story and little from the middle regarding the heyday of the station. But an interesting doughnut or record it is. :)

And, true confessions, there was a time in my own personal radio listening history when KNUZ was a "punch" for me, too! KENR was my first choice and KNUZ my second! Didn't last, and I wound up morphing back into a rock, pop and disco (yes, I admit it, disco) listener. But it was significant to me for a time. The one jock I remember hearing on that station was Arch Yancey. And, of course, I didn't use the word "punch" to describe KNUZ, but the description fit, loosely speaking. (Dial-twiddle might be a more literal description, FWIW.)

One more thing -- I take it Bob Scott is not to be confused with a DJ with the same name at a St. Louis radio station as (or after) it morphed from AC KMOX-FM to CHR KHTR in the latter half of 1982. (FWIW, after several years of big success as a CHR, that station later became "Oldies 103" KLOU. But that's a story for another board.)

> To set this ball in motion, I have to explain a few things
> about that time in Houston radio, which involved several
> stations. Actually there is more to all of this. I'm
> skimming some of the things that happened because this is
> going to be long.
>
> KENR came on the air around 1967 as a 5000watt daytime radio
> station on the U.S./Candian clear channel, AM 1070. (I
> remember in my youth, asking a KENR DJ, when would KENR go
> 24 hours.) He said never! 5 years later, it indeed went 24
> hours and with 10KW day and 5KW night. Early DJs on Keener
> Country were Eddie Kilroy, who would go on to Nashville as a
> record producer, Jacky Ward, who also left for Nashville to
> become a singer and was famous for the song, "Big Blue
> Diamond." KENR went through quite a few DJs while battling
> the well established KIKK. In 1972, things would begin to
> change.
>
> With KENR going 24/7, Leroy J. Gloger, the owner of KIKK was
> afraid it was all over for KIKK 650. Unfortunately, he did
> not have the foresight of what was to happen with 95.7 in
> it's near future. He sold it to Sonderling Broadcasting.
> Now, KIKK 650 was starting to slowly unwind. Dave Morris,
> who owned KNUZ/KQUE decided he had lost the Top 40 battle to
> KILT. Plus, 5000 watt 790 KULF was hurting KNUZ, as well.
> "Country Fresh Kay-news" was born in 1973. He persuaded Arch
> Yancey to leave KIKK and come over and program KNUZ. It
> would never beat KENR and Houston was discovering FM with
> its flat terrain and easy to listen, KIKK-FM was making
> inroads. KIKK-FM with 100KW and KENR with 10KW was killing
> KNUZ with it's kilowatt, day and 250 watts at night. Oh boy!
> KNUZ was at best, a "punch." In other words, if you didn't
> like what you heard on KIKK or KENR, you punched up KNUZ.
> However, I must state that KNUZ had some of the best country
> DJs in the city, as well. Alas, it was not going to help.
> When KILT-FM went country in 1981, KNUZ died. I was on the
> air at KNUZ, the night of the day FM100 made the change. The
> phones died. It was over. KNUZ would become the "Roots of
> Rock 'N Roll" soon after. Of course, this would also signal
> the beginning of the end for KENR.
>
> When both KILTs went country, KENR had become "Keener
> Country Gold." This would not last. KILT (both of them) and
> KIKK-FM were killing them. In 1982, the new management at
> Lake Huron changed KENR to "The Radio Magazine, KENR." It
> was newstalk with a lot of feature material. Former KNUZ
> morning jock, Joe Ford was tapped to do the morning show.
> Chuck Scott from KHTV-39 was doing the news along with New
> Yorker, Penny Crone, doing a lot of entertainment and fluff
> news. (She had a difficult time fitting in) John Greer and
> Mark Seegars were doing sports. Mike Shiloh was there as
> well. Actually, we had a pretty big staff. I joined KENR in
> the spring of 1982. When we weren't broadcasting news, we
> played music from SMN. The music was standards. I always
> wondered why they would do that, after all, 280,000 watt
> KQUE, 102.9 was playing that music. (YES! 280,000 watts.
> When KQUE came on, it was allowed, because there weren't
> many FMs on the air. However, when KQUE wanted to move up on
> a higher tower, the FCC, said, "Yes, but you have to go down
> to 100KW.") See what I mean, by involving several stations
> in this.
>
> Bob Scott, became the program director at KENR in August of
> 1982. At this time, the Magazine was on in the morning, but
> no other daypart. They wanted to evolve the station, instead
> of changing it all at once. Why? I don't know, but I sure
> liked that check. Bob filled the dayparts. Sarah Smith was
> on in the middays. I became the afternoon host of the
> Magazine, along wish Marsha Carter who did the news. George
> Lester was on from 7PM-midnight. The Astros were also on at
> night. We were still playing music at night and the
> overnight shift. Howard Reynolds was on from midnight to
> 4AM. The Bob Stephenson outdoor show was on at 4AM with the
> outdoor page. At 5, the morning page of the magazine began
> with Joe Ford.
>
> By November or so, the music changed to a light AC. By New
> Years 1983, The Radio Magazine KRBE had begun. While 1070
> was being altered constantly, you had to know that they were
> doing the same to the FM. They decided to put the Astros on
> 104, as well. The Astros were not happy with the signal of
> 1070. Simulcasting them on the FM would keep the Astros
> happy. This also was good for KKBQ who was now underway,
> quickly dismantling the prominence of the former "Superock."
> I was fired in the summer of '83. On the 1st week of June,
> management told me, the Magazine was through by the end of
> the week. "Chuck, we want you to stay. Would you like to do
> afternoons and play music?" I told them, yes. By Wednesday,
> I was told that they wanted me to do middays, as they would
> simulcast mornings and afternoons with 104. I said, okay.
> While I was on the air Thursday afternoon, a memo went out
> to the KENR news department to have a meeting. Since, I was
> now a DJ again, I did not attend. On Friday at 1:55PM, I was
> told it was my last show on KENR. I said, okay. (At this
> point nothing suprised me anymore, anyway) Around 3PM, I get
> a call from Howard Reynolds. "Chuck, they fired me last
> night. I couldn't do a last show."
>
> Howard told me since the KENR country library was still
> intact, would I go get Johnny Paycheck's "Take This Job and
> Shove It" and play the song when I went off as my last song.
> I felt it was a good request. At 2 minutes and 40 seconds to
> 6pm, I did my good-byes for Howard, the other staff and
> myself and dedicated the song to Lake Huron Broadcasting. Of
> course, I backtimed it perfectly to include the station ID
> and go straight into ABC News at 6pm.
>
> Monday morning, I went to get my check. I was told since, I
> had not attended the News meeting on Thursday, that I had
> quit. I told them, "Oh no. You fired me." They disagreed. I
> told them I would wait for my check. I sat in the lobby for
> a little while. They came and told me, if I did not leave,
> they would call the police. I said, "Please do. When they
> get here I will explain a little Texas law to you. When you
> fire somebody, you have to pay them. While we are waiting
> for the police, I will call the TV stations and let them
> know what's happening." As I ran my fingers through my
> beard, I said, "Hmmmmmm I can see it now, local DJ arrested
> at KRBE for attempting to collect his check. Thats gonna
> look real good, isn't guys?" They capitulated. I remember
> thinking to myself, "Carpetbaggers!" Don't mess with a
> Texan. LOL
>
> I would return to KNUZ, part-time and play the "Roots of
> Rock 'N Roll." By November 1984, I began a 13 year run at
> KILT. I was in radio heaven.
>
 
Thanks for the memoire, Chuck. I didn't know Arch Yancy had left KNUZ and gone over to KIKK.
>
> KENR came on the air around 1967 as a 5000watt daytime radio
> station on the U.S./Candian clear channel, AM 1070.

KENR signed on in mid-January, 1968. Jack Fiedler of WNUS, Chicago, was to be the first GM. The station was owned by Bill Edwards of Saginaw, MI; I don't know if he was Lake Huron or sold to them or what. Edwards owned an AM/TV combo in Saginaw.<P ID="signature">______________
'But have you ever heard music on a crystal set? That's the sweetest music ever broadcast.' Alfred P. Daniel, Houston radio pioneer.</P>
 
> KENR signed on in mid-January, 1968.


I knew it was sometime in there. I couldn't remember for sure, thanks.

Arch Yancey, was on KNUZ playing Top-40 before being lured to KIKK when Gloger wanted him to come and play country. Arch loved country and went over to KIKK. Then he he came back to program KNUZ when it went country in 1973.
 
> Of course, it strikes me as kind of a "doughnut" (or 45-RPM
> record?) account, heavy on the beginining and end of the
> story and little from the middle regarding the heyday of the
> station. But an interesting doughnut or record it is. :)
>
You're right. I knew it would be long. I tried to hit the highlights, as it pertained to me, I guess. There were many great DJs who went through KENR. I am currently working on my website, which will eventually tell my involvement in Houston radio, as well as the history of Houston radio, as I remember it.

> One more thing -- I take it Bob Scott is not to be confused
> with a DJ with the same name at a St. Louis radio station as
> (or after) it morphed from AC KMOX-FM to CHR KHTR in the
> latter half of 1982. (FWIW, after several years of big
> success as a CHR, that station later became "Oldies 103"
> KLOU. But that's a story for another board.)

This was another Bob Scott. I saw him briefly many years after at some function. However, we only exchanged a few greetings. There was a lot people there. Now, I can't even remember the event. Time has a hbit of doing that to me.
 
Around 3PM, I get
> a call from Howard Reynolds. "Chuck, they fired me last
> night. I couldn't do a last show."
>
> Howard told me since the KENR country library was still
> intact, would I go get Johnny Paycheck's "Take This Job and
> Shove It" and play the song when I went off as my last song.
> I felt it was a good request. At 2 minutes and 40 seconds to
> 6pm, I did my good-byes for Howard, the other staff and
> myself and dedicated the song to Lake Huron Broadcasting. Of
> course, I backtimed it perfectly to include the station ID
> and go straight into ABC News at 6pm.
>

I don't know if he's completed it, but Howard has been working on a DVD history of KNUZ and all of the legendary talent that made its history so rich, drawing on an amazing wealth of archived material that he's collected over time. I'd go so far as to call him the definitive KNUZ authority in Houston, from both the standpoints of an avid historian and a former staffer. Anything you want to know about that station and its history, he can tell you names, dates, and stories, all the way back to the beginning in the 40's. Awhile back, he showed me some raw footage of the interviews with former staffers, PDs, and others that he's been gathering over the last few years---it's a true labor of love for him, and I hope to see the DVD when/if it's completed. Also, if anybody's wondering what happened to the KNUZ on-air light after it was slated for the dumpster, I happen to know that it's safe and sound, still working, and being put to good use in a home studio where someone really loves it.
 
> I don't know if he's completed it, but Howard has been
> working on a DVD history of KNUZ and all of the legendary
> talent that made its history so rich, drawing on an amazing
> wealth of archived material that he's collected over time.
> I'd go so far as to call him the definitive KNUZ authority
> in Houston, from both the standpoints of an avid historian
> and a former staffer.

As a fomer staffer of KNUZ, Howard interviewed me for that DVD/Acess TV show as well. I spent quite a few years there, myself. 1975-1979, 1980-1981 and in 1983.
 
> I remember her. Her voice was nauseating. I saw her on a New
> York tv station a few years ago. But, to get this thread
> back on track to the history of kenr, i do remember the
> radiomagazine. Chuck, didn't you used to do something called
> the Texas history page? It seemed like i heard you doing
> these pages as well as your aftrnoon show. Also, you would
> play Grover Washington jr when you would talk.
>
Chuck I am really looking forward to you creating your website and relating as much Houston radio history as you can recall. I have spent countless hours late at night on the web trying to find out about the history of the Houston stations before I moved here in 1979 with frustratingly little to no success. KLVL and KCOH are two exceptions where I have found out about their rich history. Your website and insight will be welcomed by me. I feel like a little kid waiting for that special package when you were about six or seven as the history of Houston radio is a topic I would like learn a great deal more about. Looking forward to when you have time to write more about a subject you are very knowledgable about. The discussions on the board about Houston's radio history have been very interesting. Thanks to all.

Mike O
 
> Chuck I am really looking forward to you creating your website and relating as much Houston radio history as you can recall.

Procrastination as well as being very busy personally and professionally, is why I haven't done much since I began a couple of years ago. I made a big error in judgment. I knew that I had posted a lot of history info right here on Radio-Info. My intentions were to get some of that information and use it. All one has to do is go to "Users Posts," and access what we have all posted. Good idea at that time. Bad idea in the long run.

Recently, in order to operate Radio-Info more efficiently, the management deleted all the posts up to late spring of 2005. Anything posted before that date is gone! Alas, I will just have to access my brain. Hmmmmmmm, what's left of it.

Currently ChuckTiller.com is merely a resume. However with the assistance of my old radio comrade, Ron Samuels, the site will evolve. It will be a link on the front page.
 
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