Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had to say about his former employers. Looking at the state of that station, could you blame him for what was said?
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Kevin Matthews
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> Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had to
> say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> that station, could you blame him for what was said?
>
i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have an opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think that his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or social standing going to be affected by those comments? and why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems quasi-hypocritical to me.
> say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> that station, could you blame him for what was said?
>
i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have an opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think that his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or social standing going to be affected by those comments? and why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems quasi-hypocritical to me.
> > Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had
> to
> > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> >
> i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have an
> opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for
> matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think that
> his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or
> social standing going to be affected by those comments? and
> why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments
> equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems
> quasi-hypocritical to me.
> here is the thing....feder is a critic and as such....had a right to be critical...tho it did seem a bit personal....that said....Matthews isnt being critical of the nations third largest market from Atlanta, or Miami, or even Indianapolis...but from Grand Rapids....so evidently none of the big boys are getting Kev's act....which is pretty much a few funny voices and not much else.....he made some good money..and his act wore thin....that's life...he did well for awhile and, given his level of talent, he should be happy with it...while he has every right to be critical of any radio market he wishes it is coming across a bit like sour grapes
> to
> > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> >
> i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have an
> opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for
> matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think that
> his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or
> social standing going to be affected by those comments? and
> why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments
> equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems
> quasi-hypocritical to me.
> here is the thing....feder is a critic and as such....had a right to be critical...tho it did seem a bit personal....that said....Matthews isnt being critical of the nations third largest market from Atlanta, or Miami, or even Indianapolis...but from Grand Rapids....so evidently none of the big boys are getting Kev's act....which is pretty much a few funny voices and not much else.....he made some good money..and his act wore thin....that's life...he did well for awhile and, given his level of talent, he should be happy with it...while he has every right to be critical of any radio market he wishes it is coming across a bit like sour grapes
> > Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had
> to
> > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> >
> i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have an
> opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for
> matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think that
> his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or
> social standing going to be affected by those comments? and
> why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments
> equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems
> quasi-hypocritical to me.
The thing I find strange about Feder's attitude towards Matthews is the fact that he tends to be kneejerk positive about established personalities in the market (with the exception of Felicia Middlebrooks) and the fact that he's been reaming CBS lately a lot, between the whole WJMK/Jack thing, the hiring of Rover for CKG instead of an established talent--and his continued attacks on Felicia Middlebrooks. I find it strange that all of a sudden he would become sympathetic towards CBS and against an established talent--and Matthews is probably thinking the same thing.
> to
> > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> >
> i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have an
> opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for
> matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think that
> his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or
> social standing going to be affected by those comments? and
> why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments
> equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems
> quasi-hypocritical to me.
The thing I find strange about Feder's attitude towards Matthews is the fact that he tends to be kneejerk positive about established personalities in the market (with the exception of Felicia Middlebrooks) and the fact that he's been reaming CBS lately a lot, between the whole WJMK/Jack thing, the hiring of Rover for CKG instead of an established talent--and his continued attacks on Felicia Middlebrooks. I find it strange that all of a sudden he would become sympathetic towards CBS and against an established talent--and Matthews is probably thinking the same thing.
> Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had to
> say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> that station, could you blame him for what was said?
>
Well, while the USS WCKG sinks into the depths of the briny deep, as the Stever sings Nearer My God To Thee, one would think Matthews would be happy NOT to be associated with its imminent demise.
Also, Matthews' flaming of his old bosses is sure to be noticed by the OTHER media companies in town. I suspect Feder's point was that A) Matthews' numbers were going down, and it wasn't necessarily CBS' fault, and B) Kev's blast may have hurt any chance he had at coming back anywhere in Market #3.
> say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> that station, could you blame him for what was said?
>
Well, while the USS WCKG sinks into the depths of the briny deep, as the Stever sings Nearer My God To Thee, one would think Matthews would be happy NOT to be associated with its imminent demise.
Also, Matthews' flaming of his old bosses is sure to be noticed by the OTHER media companies in town. I suspect Feder's point was that A) Matthews' numbers were going down, and it wasn't necessarily CBS' fault, and B) Kev's blast may have hurt any chance he had at coming back anywhere in Market #3.
F
FU2CCU
Guest
I gaurantee you that Feder's beef was with Kev's last line which was....
"So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in Grand Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
Feder has people he likes to praise, and those he likes to dis....but one thing you better not do is talk bad about his city!
Feder has an inflated view of the importance and quality of the media work in this town. And nothing, nothing, ever made in Grand Rapids could ever be better than what's produced in Chicago.
> > > Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin
> had
> > to
> > > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
>
> > > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> > >
> > i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have
> an
> > opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for
> > matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think
> that
> > his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or
>
> > social standing going to be affected by those comments?
> and
> > why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments
> > equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems
> > quasi-hypocritical to me.
> > here is the thing....feder is a critic and as such....had
> a right to be critical...tho it did seem a bit
> personal....that said....Matthews isnt being critical of the
> nations third largest market from Atlanta, or Miami, or even
> Indianapolis...but from Grand Rapids....so evidently none of
> the big boys are getting Kev's act....which is pretty much a
> few funny voices and not much else.....he made some good
> money..and his act wore thin....that's life...he did well
> for awhile and, given his level of talent, he should be
> happy with it...while he has every right to be critical of
> any radio market he wishes it is coming across a bit like
> sour grapes
>
"So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in Grand Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
Feder has people he likes to praise, and those he likes to dis....but one thing you better not do is talk bad about his city!
Feder has an inflated view of the importance and quality of the media work in this town. And nothing, nothing, ever made in Grand Rapids could ever be better than what's produced in Chicago.
> > > Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin
> had
> > to
> > > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
>
> > > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> > >
> > i'm sure robert feder is good dude, but why would he have
> an
> > opinion as to the level of intelligence it takes for
> > matthews to comment as he did? i certainly don't think
> that
> > his comments were necessary but how is matthews' career or
>
> > social standing going to be affected by those comments?
> and
> > why should feder even care? and aren't feder's comments
> > equally as inflamatory towards kevin? seems
> > quasi-hypocritical to me.
> > here is the thing....feder is a critic and as such....had
> a right to be critical...tho it did seem a bit
> personal....that said....Matthews isnt being critical of the
> nations third largest market from Atlanta, or Miami, or even
> Indianapolis...but from Grand Rapids....so evidently none of
> the big boys are getting Kev's act....which is pretty much a
> few funny voices and not much else.....he made some good
> money..and his act wore thin....that's life...he did well
> for awhile and, given his level of talent, he should be
> happy with it...while he has every right to be critical of
> any radio market he wishes it is coming across a bit like
> sour grapes
>
E
Ed_Walker
Guest
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> I gaurantee you that Feder's beef was with Kev's last line
> which was....
>
> "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in Grand
> Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
>
I don't know Grand Rapids - but honestly, Kev could very well be
right.
There ain't nothin' competitive about Chicago radio right
now...its all pretty ho-hum.......
> I gaurantee you that Feder's beef was with Kev's last line
> which was....
>
> "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in Grand
> Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
>
I don't know Grand Rapids - but honestly, Kev could very well be
right.
There ain't nothin' competitive about Chicago radio right
now...its all pretty ho-hum.......
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> >
> > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
> Grand
> > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> >
The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of the competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand Rapids either but Kevin might be correct.
While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his favorites and those he doesn't like.
> >
> > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
> Grand
> > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> >
The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of the competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand Rapids either but Kevin might be correct.
While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his favorites and those he doesn't like.
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> > >
> > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
> > Grand
> > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > >
> The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of the
> competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand Rapids
> either but Kevin might be correct.
>Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio, but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago than Grand Rapids.
> While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his
> favorites and those he doesn't like.
>
> > >
> > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
> > Grand
> > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > >
> The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of the
> competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand Rapids
> either but Kevin might be correct.
>Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio, but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago than Grand Rapids.
> While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his
> favorites and those he doesn't like.
>
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> > > >
> > > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
>
> > > Grand
> > > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > > >
> > The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of
> the
> > competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand
> Rapids
> > either but Kevin might be correct.
>
> >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a
> smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
> to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
> Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio,
> but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
> Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
pumpin is right....my earlier comments were not to denigrate grand rapids (i have been there..its a nice town)...but it simply doesnt matter as a media market...thats like saying 'waxhaw, north carolina is a very competitive market' it may be but who cares?
> than Grand Rapids.
>
> > While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his
>
> > favorites and those he doesn't like.
> >
>
> > > >
> > > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
>
> > > Grand
> > > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > > >
> > The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of
> the
> > competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand
> Rapids
> > either but Kevin might be correct.
>
> >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a
> smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
> to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
> Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio,
> but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
> Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
pumpin is right....my earlier comments were not to denigrate grand rapids (i have been there..its a nice town)...but it simply doesnt matter as a media market...thats like saying 'waxhaw, north carolina is a very competitive market' it may be but who cares?
> than Grand Rapids.
>
> > While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his
>
> > favorites and those he doesn't like.
> >
>
E
Ed_Walker
Guest
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> pumpin is right....my earlier comments were not to denigrate
> grand rapids (i have been there..its a nice town)...but it
> simply doesnt matter as a media market...thats like saying
> 'waxhaw, north carolina is a very competitive market' it
> may be but who cares?
It works in reverse too...waxhaw and gr prob don't give two
cents about Chicago.
Chicago is just very ho-hum...there are no real radio battles....
maybe B96 and 103.5...but that be it...
> pumpin is right....my earlier comments were not to denigrate
> grand rapids (i have been there..its a nice town)...but it
> simply doesnt matter as a media market...thats like saying
> 'waxhaw, north carolina is a very competitive market' it
> may be but who cares?
It works in reverse too...waxhaw and gr prob don't give two
cents about Chicago.
Chicago is just very ho-hum...there are no real radio battles....
maybe B96 and 103.5...but that be it...
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> > > >
> > > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
>
> > > Grand
> > > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > > >
> > The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of
> the
> > competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand
> Rapids
> > either but Kevin might be correct.
>
> >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a
> smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
> to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
You're equating size with competition. There are other industries that generate less revenue but are far more competitive than radio. Likewise, there are smaller radio markets that are more competitive than Chicago.
The market is dominated by several major chains. Major chains (especially publicly owned major chains) do not like to take risks and they would prefer to avoid competition because that is very costly.
> Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio,
> but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
> Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
> than Grand Rapids.
You're right there. Creativity is the lifeblood of competition and we don't have much creativity in Chi Town.
your turn
>
> > While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his
>
> > favorites and those he doesn't like.
> >
>
> > > >
> > > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in
>
> > > Grand
> > > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > > >
> > The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of
> the
> > competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand
> Rapids
> > either but Kevin might be correct.
>
> >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a
> smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
> to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
You're equating size with competition. There are other industries that generate less revenue but are far more competitive than radio. Likewise, there are smaller radio markets that are more competitive than Chicago.
The market is dominated by several major chains. Major chains (especially publicly owned major chains) do not like to take risks and they would prefer to avoid competition because that is very costly.
> Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio,
> but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
> Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
> than Grand Rapids.
You're right there. Creativity is the lifeblood of competition and we don't have much creativity in Chi Town.
your turn
>
> > While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have his
>
> > favorites and those he doesn't like.
> >
>
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> > > > >
> > > > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio
> in
> >
> > > > Grand
> > > > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > > > >
> > > The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of
>
> > the
> > > competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand
> > Rapids
> > > either but Kevin might be correct.
> >
> > >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> > advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in
> a
> > smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
>
> > to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> > Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
>
> You're equating size with competition. There are other
> industries that generate less revenue but are far more
> competitive than radio. Likewise, there are smaller radio
> markets that are more competitive than Chicago.
>But if you are a smaller market, that usually means LESS competition, so why would you be more competitive when you are the only game in town? I am not saying that is the right thing to do, but isn't that the way it normally goes. It is the same thing in the retail game, Fifth Avenue in N.Y.C. isn't going to be the same as a fashion mall in small town U.S.A.
> The market is dominated by several major chains. Major
> chains (especially publicly owned major chains) do not like
> to take risks and they would prefer to avoid competition
> because that is very costly.
>
> > Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in
> radio,
> > but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
>
> > Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
>
> > than Grand Rapids.
>
> You're right there. Creativity is the lifeblood of
> competition and we don't have much creativity in Chi Town.
>
> your turn
> >
> > > While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have
> his
> >
> > > favorites and those he doesn't like.
> > >
> >
>
> > > > >
> > > > > "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio
> in
> >
> > > > Grand
> > > > > Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
> > > > >
> > > The size of a market is no indicator of the intensity of
>
> > the
> > > competitive environment. I'm not familiar with Grand
> > Rapids
> > > either but Kevin might be correct.
> >
> > >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> > advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in
> a
> > smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
>
> > to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> > Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
>
> You're equating size with competition. There are other
> industries that generate less revenue but are far more
> competitive than radio. Likewise, there are smaller radio
> markets that are more competitive than Chicago.
>But if you are a smaller market, that usually means LESS competition, so why would you be more competitive when you are the only game in town? I am not saying that is the right thing to do, but isn't that the way it normally goes. It is the same thing in the retail game, Fifth Avenue in N.Y.C. isn't going to be the same as a fashion mall in small town U.S.A.
> The market is dominated by several major chains. Major
> chains (especially publicly owned major chains) do not like
> to take risks and they would prefer to avoid competition
> because that is very costly.
>
> > Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in
> radio,
> > but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
>
> > Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
>
> > than Grand Rapids.
>
> You're right there. Creativity is the lifeblood of
> competition and we don't have much creativity in Chi Town.
>
> your turn
> >
> > > While I enjoy Mr. Feder's column, he does seem to have
> his
> >
> > > favorites and those he doesn't like.
> > >
> >
>
Funny how a washed up has been who couldn't cut in this market any longer complains about the very competition that whooped his sorry, mildly talented fat ass.
He lost, he wasn't good enough and he's bitter. Typical. He's in a market worthy of his lack of talent now. No offense to G.R., he's your boredom now.
> > Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had
> to
> > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> >
> Well, while the USS WCKG sinks into the depths of the briny
> deep, as the Stever sings Nearer My God To Thee, one would
> think Matthews would be happy NOT to be associated with its
> imminent demise.
>
> Also, Matthews' flaming of his old bosses is sure to be
> noticed by the OTHER media companies in town. I suspect
> Feder's point was that A) Matthews' numbers were going down,
> and it wasn't necessarily CBS' fault, and B) Kev's blast may
> have hurt any chance he had at coming back anywhere in
> Market #3.
>
He lost, he wasn't good enough and he's bitter. Typical. He's in a market worthy of his lack of talent now. No offense to G.R., he's your boredom now.
> > Robert Feder did not seem too pleased with what Kevin had
> to
> > say about his former employers. Looking at the state of
> > that station, could you blame him for what was said?
> >
> Well, while the USS WCKG sinks into the depths of the briny
> deep, as the Stever sings Nearer My God To Thee, one would
> think Matthews would be happy NOT to be associated with its
> imminent demise.
>
> Also, Matthews' flaming of his old bosses is sure to be
> noticed by the OTHER media companies in town. I suspect
> Feder's point was that A) Matthews' numbers were going down,
> and it wasn't necessarily CBS' fault, and B) Kev's blast may
> have hurt any chance he had at coming back anywhere in
> Market #3.
>
B
burbs
Guest
Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a
> smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
> to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
So then no more ripping on Chicago talent. Money has been spent on it. It's stellar.
> Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio,
> but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
> Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
> than Grand Rapids.
Which means there are fewer listeners to go around; hence, more competitive. Right?
> >Actually that statement is inaccurate. There are more
> advertising dollars to be made in a larger market than in a
> smaller one. Do you actually think a corporation is going
> to spend the same amount of money on Chicago as Grand
> Rapids? That's just crazy!!!
So then no more ripping on Chicago talent. Money has been spent on it. It's stellar.
> Creatively maybe Chicago isn't where it should be in radio,
> but that doesn't mean it isn't more competitive than Grand
> Rapids. You will be fighting for more listeners in Chicago
> than Grand Rapids.
Which means there are fewer listeners to go around; hence, more competitive. Right?
B
burbs
Guest
> I gaurantee you that Feder's beef was with Kev's last line
> which was....
>
> "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in Grand
> Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
>
> Feder has people he likes to praise, and those he likes to
> dis....but one thing you better not do is talk bad about his
> city!
>
> Feder has an inflated view of the importance and quality of
> the media work in this town. And nothing, nothing, ever
> made in Grand Rapids could ever be better than what's
> produced in Chicago.
I think you hit it right on the head. And Kev never said that Grand Rapids radio was better; just more competitive at the moment. Thing is - he's right with respect to mornings. Who are the key morning shows here? What percentage of stations here have top-shelf shows? Smaller market - fewer stations, but I can tell you from what I know of that market, a higher percentage of those stations are concentrating on putting an excellent product forward in morning drive.
> which was....
>
> "So to me, honestly, there's more competitive radio in Grand
> Rapids right now than there is in Chicago."
>
> Feder has people he likes to praise, and those he likes to
> dis....but one thing you better not do is talk bad about his
> city!
>
> Feder has an inflated view of the importance and quality of
> the media work in this town. And nothing, nothing, ever
> made in Grand Rapids could ever be better than what's
> produced in Chicago.
I think you hit it right on the head. And Kev never said that Grand Rapids radio was better; just more competitive at the moment. Thing is - he's right with respect to mornings. Who are the key morning shows here? What percentage of stations here have top-shelf shows? Smaller market - fewer stations, but I can tell you from what I know of that market, a higher percentage of those stations are concentrating on putting an excellent product forward in morning drive.
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Re: Kevin Matthews is right
I hate to say it but I think Mr. Matthews is correct. Chicago WAS a great radio market as far as I'm concerned. It's gotten pretty tired, stale and predictable like, admittedly, radio through much of the country is today. As long as the 'inside track' remains among a handful of owners and broadcast decisions are made by non-broadcast managerial types versus truly creative programmers and talent, the outlook for the industry remains dismal. When the likes of Dahl, Mancow, and the Wonder Bread kids on TMX are considered among the best we have, something's wrong. Feder should be leading the challenge not criticizing those who do. On the other hand, he's likely quite comfortable and, understandably, doesn't want or need to 'rock the boat'. Then again, what do I know? Where's my Prozac?
I hate to say it but I think Mr. Matthews is correct. Chicago WAS a great radio market as far as I'm concerned. It's gotten pretty tired, stale and predictable like, admittedly, radio through much of the country is today. As long as the 'inside track' remains among a handful of owners and broadcast decisions are made by non-broadcast managerial types versus truly creative programmers and talent, the outlook for the industry remains dismal. When the likes of Dahl, Mancow, and the Wonder Bread kids on TMX are considered among the best we have, something's wrong. Feder should be leading the challenge not criticizing those who do. On the other hand, he's likely quite comfortable and, understandably, doesn't want or need to 'rock the boat'. Then again, what do I know? Where's my Prozac?
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FU2CCU
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Re: Kevin Matthews is right
Here's the deal....
Chicago was and still is a great media town. But as with everything about Chicago, it's got an inferiority complex (2nd city). There's also this unhealthy aversion to anyone who was not born and raised in Chicagoland or currently working here.
Rover never stood a chance in this town...even if he was the next Howard (which he isn't) because he's from Cleveland...forget it, he sucks. The list goes on and on...outsiders have a tough time cracking this nut.
There's a lot of good media content coming out of Chicago right now...but the great ones aren't afraid to look at new ideas that come from outside.
> I hate to say it but I think Mr. Matthews is correct.
> Chicago WAS a great radio market as far as I'm concerned.
> It's gotten pretty tired, stale and predictable like,
> admittedly, radio through much of the country is today. As
> long as the 'inside track' remains among a handful of owners
> and broadcast decisions are made by non-broadcast managerial
> types versus truly creative programmers and talent, the
> outlook for the industry remains dismal. When the likes of
> Dahl, Mancow, and the Wonder Bread kids on TMX are
> considered among the best we have, something's wrong. Feder
> should be leading the challenge not criticizing those who
> do. On the other hand, he's likely quite comfortable and,
> understandably, doesn't want or need to 'rock the boat'.
> Then again, what do I know? Where's my Prozac?
>
Here's the deal....
Chicago was and still is a great media town. But as with everything about Chicago, it's got an inferiority complex (2nd city). There's also this unhealthy aversion to anyone who was not born and raised in Chicagoland or currently working here.
Rover never stood a chance in this town...even if he was the next Howard (which he isn't) because he's from Cleveland...forget it, he sucks. The list goes on and on...outsiders have a tough time cracking this nut.
There's a lot of good media content coming out of Chicago right now...but the great ones aren't afraid to look at new ideas that come from outside.
> I hate to say it but I think Mr. Matthews is correct.
> Chicago WAS a great radio market as far as I'm concerned.
> It's gotten pretty tired, stale and predictable like,
> admittedly, radio through much of the country is today. As
> long as the 'inside track' remains among a handful of owners
> and broadcast decisions are made by non-broadcast managerial
> types versus truly creative programmers and talent, the
> outlook for the industry remains dismal. When the likes of
> Dahl, Mancow, and the Wonder Bread kids on TMX are
> considered among the best we have, something's wrong. Feder
> should be leading the challenge not criticizing those who
> do. On the other hand, he's likely quite comfortable and,
> understandably, doesn't want or need to 'rock the boat'.
> Then again, what do I know? Where's my Prozac?
>
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Ed_Walker
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disagree dude - Chicago Radio is DEAD
> Here's the deal....
>
> Chicago was and still is a great media town. But as with
> everything about Chicago, it's got an inferiority complex
> (2nd city). There's also this unhealthy aversion to anyone
> who was not born and raised in Chicagoland or currently
> working here.
Born and raised here...living through the WLS/WCFL wars..the
97.9/AM 1000 days - all I can say is that Chicago is pretty
sleepy right now. Chicago Ed gone...snore. Chicago radio is
at an all-time low.
Forget Rover - it was long over before he got here.
Argue now.
> Here's the deal....
>
> Chicago was and still is a great media town. But as with
> everything about Chicago, it's got an inferiority complex
> (2nd city). There's also this unhealthy aversion to anyone
> who was not born and raised in Chicagoland or currently
> working here.
Born and raised here...living through the WLS/WCFL wars..the
97.9/AM 1000 days - all I can say is that Chicago is pretty
sleepy right now. Chicago Ed gone...snore. Chicago radio is
at an all-time low.
Forget Rover - it was long over before he got here.
Argue now.
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RadioViewer
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Re: Kevin Matthews is right
> There's a lot of good media content coming out of Chicago
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> There's a lot of good media content coming out of Chicago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...GIFs/guy_rolling_on_floor_laughing_hg_clr.gif
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