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KEXP Buys KREV

Hopefully they will be able to get HD Radio sooner then anticipated as to help the signal too. It makes a huge difference with our terrain here! Just listen to 92.3/98.5 towards SF over stronger and higher broadcasters… power and height are only so relevant.
 
Hopefully they will be able to get HD Radio sooner then anticipated as to help the signal too. It makes a huge difference with our terrain here! Just listen to 92.3/98.5 towards SF over stronger and higher broadcasters… power and height are only so relevant.

TTBOMK They don't use HD in Seattle. That's not to say they won't add it in SF. But in my opinion, they focus on one signal, do it well, and use it for community outreach, education, and fellowship. That's their secret to success. If you can't hear the signal, then stream it.
 
TTBOMK They don't use HD in Seattle. That's not to say they won't add it in SF. But in my opinion, they focus on one signal, do it well, and use it for community outreach, education, and fellowship. That's their secret to success. If you can't hear the signal, then stream it.
One of the people in their engineering team said they would add it here, on this forum.

They’re also listed as broadcasting in HD-1 in Seattle too!
 
So apparently that's the target date for the KEXP format to debut in SF.
No. That's simply a placeholder for when they believe the sale will close. A date needs to be inserted in the call change submission, but whenever it is tied to a license transfer it does not take effect until closing.

Especially with this deal there is no sure thing when it comes to a target date.
 
KREV is now broadcasting from Sutro at reduced power until a new antenna is ready, hopefully sometime in February. KEXP content will take over mid-March (with the new call letters). HD-1 will come with the new antenna. This community continues to impress with your spot on speculation!

Awesome to see this!! Immediately I am receiving the signal where it was previously static and unreachable, Redwood City, CA. The current format isn’t my taste so I will be very excited for KEXP which is right up my alley.

Will the mid-March swap be a simulcast?

Also very happy to see you report that HD-1 will come - I feel that HD-1 will make a huge difference. The analog only stations do so much worse on their edge of operations with our very difficult topology from my experience. I hope only the best success for KEXP, it is a true breath of fresh air to the bay. You got at least one supporter here!
 
Awesome to see this!! Immediately I am receiving the signal where it was previously static and unreachable, Redwood City, CA. The current format isn’t my taste so I will be very excited for KEXP which is right up my alley.

Will the mid-March swap be a simulcast?

Also very happy to see you report that HD-1 will come - I feel that HD-1 will make a huge difference. The analog only stations do so much worse on their edge of operations with our very difficult topology from my experience. I hope only the best success for KEXP, it is a true breath of fresh air to the bay. You got at least one supporter here!
Why are you going gunho about getting HD?

I don't think most have HD Radios at home

Maybe in cars
 
Why are you going gunho about getting HD?

I don't think most have HD Radios at home

Maybe in cars

What % of radio listening in 2023 — almost 2024, do you think is actually done at home?

Go to a Central Computer or Best Buy and see if you can find a radio player, period.

It’s very valuable with our regions crowded bands and the topology to remove multipathing. I’m just applauding KEXP for joining every broadcaster in our region in using the technology. That signal makes the biggest difference you’d ever imagine. I’ve experienced it first hand too often now.
 
What % of radio listening in 2023 — almost 2024, do you think is actually done at home?
Depending on the market, around 49% to 51% takes place at home, work or other stationary location.
Go to a Central Computer or Best Buy and see if you can find a radio player, period.
A "radio player"? Never heard that term. For about 100 years they have been called "radios".
It’s very valuable with our regions crowded bands and the topology to remove multipathing. I’m just applauding KEXP for joining every broadcaster in our region in using the technology. That signal makes the biggest difference you’d ever imagine. I’ve experienced it first hand too often now.
Most listeners are not techie-enough to understand that. And most home radios are "heritage" ones purchased some time ago. Or, the station is being listened to via Alexa or a similar device.

Cars are, on average, about 12 years old. HD rolled out very slowly in vehicles and many manufacturers only included it in premium accessory lines. Far less than half of all cars and vehicles have HD. Many dealers, wishing to avoid non-billable warranty repairs disable HD before delivery, or so a number of reliable sources have told me.
 
Depending on the market, around 49% to 51% takes place at home, work or other stationary location.

While this is a very believable statistic - I hear it around the bay at hair cutters, stores and I know many office environments still play the radio, I’d be willing to reckon home listenership is by far lower then the others.

As for the “radio player” topic, i think it’s a bit silly as a point to bring up. I respect you David and I mean no ill will by saying we are adults and it doesn’t benefit either of us to argue about semantics like that. My bad about that, I’ve always called them “radio players”.
 
While this is a very believable statistic - I hear it around the bay at hair cutters, stores and I know many office environments still play the radio, I’d be willing to reckon home listenership is by far lower then the others.
The data comes from diary markets where "home, work, in car, other" are the 4 "must mark" choices. PPM only has "at home" and "away" due to the way the electronic device works. But we can make educated estimates based on diary markets with similar road conditions, use of public transit, etc. to isolate "in vehicle" listening.

Of course stores and the like don't have meters. And in many locations, customers are not there long enough for the minimum detection to take place. In any case, one-time detections in a store or office are such short incidents that they don't affect ratings where "share" is based on time spent listening by each panelist.
As for the “radio player” topic, i think it’s a bit silly as a point to bring up. I respect you David and I mean no ill will by saying we are adults and it doesn’t benefit either of us to argue about semantics like that. My bad about that, I’ve always called them “radio players”.
I was citing that because it's unusual and indicates a potential lack of understanding of "the general public". If you don't find it unusual, then, of course, all the more reason.
 
It’s very valuable with our regions crowded bands and the topology to remove multipathing.
Works good for removing multipath, but I would argue that it's not that great in a market with crowded bands. Xperi/Ibiquity pulled an interesting trick with bandwidth measurement to say that HD fits the bandwidth limitations of FCC part 73.317. But in reality it requires 400 KHz of occupied bandwidth on the FM band instead of 200. More here:


How does that mask in the diagram on page 7 show the sidebands down 30 db when the injection level can be as high as -10 db? Simple! You just set your spectrum analyzer to a narrow bandwidth for compliance measurement. Never mind that radios don't behave that way in the real world. But that train left the station long ago, and there are quite a few broadcasters who have lost coverage due to interference as a result of it.

Will it affect KEXP? Not likely. 92.9 is in Ukiah and 92.5 is in Sacramento. That one is in the clear.

Dave B.
 
Cars are, on average, about 12 years old. HD rolled out very slowly in vehicles and many manufacturers only included it in premium accessory lines. Far less than half of all cars and vehicles have HD. Many dealers, wishing to avoid non-billable warranty repairs disable HD before delivery, or so a number of reliable sources have told me.
Hadn't heard that before, but I will say that, when I bought my Audi new four years ago, the HD was off. I had to go through the menus to turn it on.
 
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