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KFWB airing informercials

OMG David why spend so much time with this gadfly? Clearly he has wayyy too much time on his hands.
As a new contributor I'd like to see what the industry folks have to say on the matter.
It could be said that an entirely different audience is listening to KFWB at 7am on Sunday morning. If your not offending the regular listeners what's the harm?
 
Gadfly, I like that.

Mister Corporate Radio has made his case 8 times..

Now, I'll make mine, where it matters. And as to the amount of time I spent doing this, heck, I can write this one in my sleep:

Federal Communications Commission
445 12th Street, SW
Washington, DC 20554

Los Angeles CA
5 Feb. 2008

On Sunday, Feb. 3 2008, radio station KFWB in Los Angeles, and CBS Radio, as the licensee of its broadcast station, aired at least seven lengthy infomercials disguised as news broadcasting in direct violation of §73.1212 and the FCC’s order of April 2005 regarding the proper identification of commercially-supplied news program material. I wish to file a formal complaint with the FCC against CBS Radio and KFWB.

KFWB is normally programmed as an all-news radio station, and in this unprecedented broadcast blended its normal programming into the paid content so as to deliberately confuse listeners into not knowing when bona fide news began and ended, and when paid commercial material in the form of a prerecorded fake call-in program advertising a home mortgage sales operation. Further, this brokerage was fraudulently and intentionally represented by the station as to be an impartial source of counseling and advice for persons needing impartial advice, when in fact it was a company doing business originating new loan packages.

It must be stated that the petitioner fully realizes that infomercials are legal under certain conditions, and that this complaint does not challenge that. Rather, we point of the flagrant and apparently-obvious attempt by the licensees of KFWB and their employees to circumvent, ignore or steamroll over the wall that the FCC has erected between program material and commercial material. The fact that KFWB is an all-news station, licensed to CBS Radio, makes these offenses even more gregarious.

During the hour between 7 and 8 a.m. on Sunday 3 February 2008, the station’s normal news, weather, sports and traffic programming was interspersed with segments, most of them lasting eight minutes, in which a “mortgage expert” purportedly took telephone calls from listeners to give them advice. At no time going into or out of any of these segments was it identified as paid commercial content. The name of the sponsor may or may not have been used during some of the segments but was never announced as the sponsor of the paid announcement. Further, the name of the sponsor was misleadingly broadcast as a resource for callers to gain assistance and counseling to avoid the foreclosure of their homes, and was not disclosed as a private entity seeking to sell mortgages.

Further, each infomercial did not indicate that the sponsor was licensed or registered under the California Residential Mortgage Lending Act as defined by Section 50002 and required by Section 50308 of the California Financial Code. All radio advertisements for mortgage brokers in California must under state law include an announcement that the broker is registered under the CRMLA. These advertisements and program-length infomercials on KFWB did not include such announcements. The station cannot claim these eight-minute segments were “commercials” because if they were, they would have had to have the CRMLA announcement, which was not done. Although the FCC is not responsible for enforcing the California Residential Mortgage Act, the fact that these mandatory disclosure announcements were not made indicates that KFWB and the advertiser wished to conceal the true nature of these commercial segments as program segments.

Shockingly, the station interspersed actual news, traffic, weather and sports into this broadcast with no delineation or discrimination between content categories in a method that confused the listener, likely deliberately. Although the station claims that an announcement as to the coming of a paid program was made at 7:06, no such announcement was made when that first commercial segment ended, or when any of the subsequent 8-minute infomercials began or ended.

At 7:58, the last fake call-in segment ended and a traditional commercial aired, also for the mortgage broker but using a different voice. It was only after that short spot ended that an announcement was made by KFWB with words to the effect that “the preceding program was a paid commercial announcement that does not necessarily reflect the views of KFWB or CBS Radio.” But that announcement was separated from the suspect content by an actual commercial and was not linked in any way to the actual paid infomercials, and could in no way be associated with the fake newscast material. In other words, the lone announcement after the infomercial parade ended was aired not after each infomercial, but followed a spot, thus distancing itself from the infomericals in a deceptive attempt to conceal the true nature of the fake newscasts.

Surveys show that KFWB has a short time-spent-listening average, a fact that it actually boasts about in the slogan it has used for 40 years: “Just Give Us 22 Minutes and We’ll Give You The World.” Any listener joining the broadcast at any time after 7:06 would hear seemless integration between bona fide news coverage and ersatz news coverage. with no audio cue or announcement to differentiate between sponsor-scripted “news” and actual program material news. As far as a I can ascertain, this is the first infomercial that KFWB has aired since the FCC legalized them two decades ago. Because the station was flipping back and forth between programming and infomercial, any listener joining the station any time after the purported 7:06 a.m. announcement would have no knowledge before, during or after these segments that he or she had just heard an advertisement disguised as the regular news programming.

It should also be pointed out that KFWB’s format never has commercial “stop sets” of more than two minutes, and usually has only 60 seconds of advertising between news segments. Although the FCC does not regulate the length of commercials, the fact that these unannounced-infomercials were 8 minutes in length shows that they were not intended by the station to be perceived as commercial “spots” but were intended to be perceived by listeners as program material similar to what the station normally broadcasts.

KFWB possibly violated Section 73.1212 (a), ”Sponsorship identification”, in that it transmitted matter for which money, service, or other valuable consideration was either directly or indirectly paid or promised to, without announcing that such matter was sponsored and furnished, either in whole or in part. Except for the first segment, which aired from approximately 7:06-7:12, the station did not announce who or on whose behalf such consideration was supplied.

In possible violation of § 73.1212 (b), KFWB apparently did not exercise reasonable diligence to obtain from its employees, and from other persons with whom it deals directly in connection with any matter for broadcast, information to enable the licensee to make the announcement required by Section 73.1212.

The sponsorship announcement required by Section 73.1212 (e) did not state the fact that each segment of the broadcast matter was sponsored, paid for or furnished. None of the segments fully and fairly disclosed the true identity of the person or persons, or other entity by whom or on whose behalf such payment is made. Specifically, these announcements were not made as the station transitioned from paid commercial into actual news programming at the following approximate PDT times, as well as possibly other nearby times, on the morning of Sunday, Feb. 3:
(1) 7:12
(2) 7:19
(3) 7:28
(4) 7:40
(5) 7:52
and (6) 7:58 a.m.
The station also did not properly disclose it was transitioning from news into paid advertising disguised as news at the following approximate PDT times, as well as possibly other nearby times, on the morning of Sunday, Feb. 3:
(1) 7:13
(2) 7:22
(3) 7:31
(4) 7:42
and (5) 7:54 a.m.

As a mere listener to KFWB, these observations are not normally kept by me and in fact were noted as I was driving, so the times are approximate.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if there is more information needed. As a listener, I note that CBS Radio has abandoned its longstanding standards and practices, flaunted FCC regulations, and trashed the trust it has built up in decades of public service as a private trustee of the public’s airwaves.

Sincerely,

John McNary

Los Angeles CA 90066
 
Yeah, I should really stop eating those norteno tostadas just before sleep.

I haven't filed it yet, and won't, if KFWB does the honest thing and announces to its audience it had made an innocent mistake, and would not repeat such a mistake, and then keeps its word.

I hate to sound like this is a threat, but merely want to make it clear I am a reasonable person taking a principled stand.

Call legal, Andy.

You have my number, Andy, I left it on 2 voicemails on Mr. Weiner's private line. Or you can reach me here.

John
 
John McNary said:
Gadfly, I like that.

Mister Corporate Radio has made his case 8 times..

Now, I'll make mine, where it matters. And as to the amount of time I spent doing this, heck, I can write this one in my sleep:

You are definitely sleeping. The FCC rule does not require commercials have a statement that they are paid for. They only require that the commercial contain, somewhere, the identity of a sponsor.

By the way, "gregarious" means "sociable and friendly" and I think you were looking for, but failed to find, the word "egregious." Of course, you can't seem to understand that the FCC rule does not require an annoucement that says "This was paid for" so your management of polysyllabic words simply supports my contention. Where in a Charmin ad does it say, Paid for by Proctor and Gamble?

You really presented nothing the Commission can act on. The long spots had sponsor ID. There was a disclaimer, at least, at the end of the show.

The FCC does not rule on formatics, so the length of stopsets is irrelvant, as is how much listening is shown in ratings. In fact, the average length of listening to KFWB is 49 minutes per incident, only a few minutes less than the top English music leader, KIIS.
 
Nice catch on gregarious/egregious.

I'll be sure to fix that on the FCC filing.

... the average length of listening to KFWB is 49 minutes per incident, only a few minutes less than the top English music leader, KIIS.


Hmm, what is your source on the 49 minutes per listening incident?

Say, that wouldn't be from back when KFWB carried the Dodgers games, where TSL explodes, would it?

KFWB doesn't carry the Dodgers anymore, as you conveniently forgot to mention.

Rather misleading of you, wouldn't you say? What is the average TSL when the station is in its "just give us 22 minutes" mode?

Caught you not telling the truth, David.

KFWB TSL is not 49 minutes, only when Dodger games are figured in, which is not the case anymore. And you knew it.

Reminds me of the old days, when you had to hide out as the Old Gringo because those gregarious guys in Dallas and Malibu caught you repeatedly peddling non-truths in a most-egregious way.
 
John McNary said:
Hmm, what is your source on the 49 minutes per listening incident?

PD Advantage for Fall, plus verification of actual, individual months of November and December for dramatic changes in TSL vs. cume. What I did see, looking at baseball months, is that TSL tended to decline, as regular listeners listened less to KFWB and very few came for the ball games.

Say, that wouldn't the Dodgers games, where TSL explodes, would it?

Nope. Actually, as I mentioned, TSL declined as the games drove off regular listeners, making their usage decline.

KFWB doesn't carry the Dodgers anymore, as you conveniently forgot to mention.

So? I looked at non-play months, and the figure is 49 minutes of TSL per incident. I looked at Fall of 1998 and the usage was 54 minutes per incident (tune in occasion) and then I did a 4 book average for 2002 and it was 51 minutes. So, over the last 9 years, there is barely a change, with or without baseball.

Rather misleading of you, wouldn't you say? What is the average TSL when the station is in its "just give us 22 minutes" mode?

About 50 minutes, give or take 2 on either side. Baseball months tend to make it go down, not up.

Caught you not telling the truth, David.

No you did not. In non baseball years and months, the average has been stable for the last 9 years.

KFWB TSL is not 49 minutes, only when Dodger games are figured in, which is not the case anymore. And you knew it.

Hahaha. The Fall book (October-November-December) only covered a few days of play, so just looking at the time per incident there is deadly accurate: 49 minutes.

Reminds me of the old days, when you had to hide out as the Old Gringo because those gregarious guys in Dallas and Malibu caught you repeatedly lying in a most-egregious way.

Oh, you mean the guys who insisted XEG had been on the border? Nobody caught me in any lie; those guys no longer (can) post, anyway. My profile has always said who I am... I'm not hiding from anyone. Who are you hiding from?
 
OK, I stand corrected. 49 minutes is the average TSL.

Does that mean that 50 percent of KFWB's audience at any given time listens for fewer than 49 minutes?

Or does it mean that one guy listens for hours and hours, and everyone else listens for a lesser period. Say, 22 minutes or so?
 
John McNary said:
OK, I stand corrected. 49 minutes is the average TSL.

Does that mean that 50 percent of KFWB's audience at any given time listens for fewer than 49 minutes?

Or does it mean that one guy listens for hours and hours, and everyone else listens for a lesser period. Say, 22 minutes or so?

No, 49 minutes is the listening time, nonstop, per occasion. The TSL averages 4 hours over the years.

This figure is actually a median, with half the INCIDENTS being less than 49 minutes and half are longer. I ascribe most of this to commute and drive times. Since nearly 60% of the KFWB listening is in car, the determining factor is how long it takes to go from point A to point B. A short commute gets shorter TSL, a long one with traffic jams gets longer. This is supported by the fact that in-car TSL per week is just over 2 hours, while the average at home is more than double that, suggesting again that the in-car TSL is a function of commuting time, not the repetition of the news itself.
 
nmoore6676 said:
I don't have a dog in this fight but I would say that the best procedure rather than getting into a fight with David is to document, preferably with time annotated air check recordings and careful paper logs and submit it all to the FCC for review. Since it is a bureaucracy your work will likely go into the big round file but you will feel better by having voiced your opinion.

To be truthful I gave up on KFWB years ago, which is a shame as it was my first place to turn to for news, especially if I had just felt a larger than normal jolt of my floor. But I have found other sources for news and I miss them but C'est la vie. Adding infomercials is just another rung on their descent ladder going into the bottomless pit that AM radio is sadly becoming.

At least they brought back the teletype background noise....or was that KNX?

As far as jolts, I usually turn to http://www.data.scec.org/recenteqs/Maps/Los_Angeles.html ... *if* the power hasn't been knocked out
 
Unfortunately, Sundays at 7a seems to be KFWB's infomercial slot / dumping ground. They had been running Mortgage Makeovers, but this morning I heard something new - about life insurance senior portfolio investments - which was actually originating live from KLAA AM 830. How sad that KFWB did not revert to its long respected all-news 24/7 commitment.
 
David at USC said:
Unfortunately, Sundays at 7a seems to be KFWB's infomercial slot / dumping ground. They had been running Mortgage Makeovers, but this morning I heard something new - about life insurance senior portfolio investments - which was actually originating live from KLAA AM 830. How sad that KFWB did not revert to its long respected all-news 24/7 commitment.

I think in a recession and radio revenue turndown, one needs to give some slack to minor things like this.
 
When I was a kid Sunday Morning was "God" time and in Southwestern Ohio this meant fire and brimstone Pentacostals. I always ended up on a "big band" music program on a local station in Springfield which probably cemented my devotion to the Music of Your Life format. So you can either have infomercials or preaching which was also a paid for time proposition so the idea isn't new, just redirected. Of course you can listen to KFI which has live local news and "The Jesus Christ Show" if you prefer religion to sales pitches.
 
David is right. C'mon people. Is KFWB planning on breaking a two share anytime soon anyway? Paid programming isn't some new phenomenon as the last power indicates; some pretty big stations have had their entire daily overnight schedule filled with tinny-sounding fire and brimstone preachers for decades.
 
Just an aside, as I said the hellfire preachers used to, and probably still do some places, on Sunday morning. When I was still in high school one of them was holding forth on a small 500W daytimer in Bellefontaine, Ohio. The station was constructed like most small stations of the time, probably a turnkey set up from RCA or Gates. Anyway the guy was frothing and foaming, screaming and shouting when he noticed flames behind the glass window separating the studio and transmitter. He had to exit in a hurry so I guess he maybe called up just a tad too much fire and brimstone that Sunday. Always regretted that I was listening to that big band show 'cause that would have been some compelling radio.
 
DavidEduardo said:
David at USC said:
Unfortunately, Sundays at 7a seems to be KFWB's infomercial slot / dumping ground. They had been running Mortgage Makeovers, but this morning I heard something new - about life insurance senior portfolio investments - which was actually originating live from KLAA AM 830. How sad that KFWB did not revert to its long respected all-news 24/7 commitment.

I think in a recession and radio revenue turndown, one needs to give some slack to minor things like this.

For once, D.E., I agree with you on something! :D I just hope that IF there is a major news story breaking, there is someone LIVE at the station to break in with live coverage. I wonder if the mighty KNX 1070 will follow suit anytime soon? :eek:
 
MusicMaestro said:
For once, D.E., I agree with you on something! :D I just hope that IF there is a major news story breaking, there is someone LIVE at the station to break in with live coverage. I wonder if the mighty KNX 1070 will follow suit anytime soon? :eek:

Good point on having someone there if news breaks (which, on a Sunday morning, would be a quake... Landers was on a Sunday morning, of course). I would assume they would.
 
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