KFWB=Lame

[wpb1999]

I liked KFWB news, back in the day, a hell of a lot more than KNX. They were just a better Group W product, then CBS came into the picture. KNX was determined to be the stronger station, and KDWB was sold off. Now, its crap.....

 

[KeithE4]

Well Look at KPIX-TV the CBS O&O in San Francisco They cannot air the Oakland Raider games in the Oakland Colosseum due to an agreement from the Raiders, Oakland Colosseum and the NFL to not air Raider Games if the stadium capacity is less than a certain number. This Means CBS and KPIX must get another AFC football game during the time the Raiders are playing. I'm not sure if NFL League Pass blocks Raiders games if you live in Oakland?

That's the NFL blackout rule. It's in effect across the league. Simply put, if a home game doesn't sell out, or all the tickets aren't purchased, the local TV station (or any TV affiliate within a 70 mile radius) cannot show the game.

It's 75 miles, and it applies when any part of a market falls within that radius, whether anyone lives there or not. One example is Ajo AZ, in the western part of Pima County, barely within the 75 mile radius of University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale. Only a couple thousand people live there, but it's part of the Tucson TV market. Therefore, Tucson is subject to the blackout even though 99.9% of the market is well outside the limit. I'm surprised the CBS and Fox affiliates there didn't try to stop the blackouts on their stations (not that there's been one since the stadium opened).

And I think League Pass is exempt from the blackout rule.

None of the leagues have blackout rules for radio, but all but the NHL require going through their website to listen online. MLB, NBA, NFL, and most college teams' affiliate stations cannot stream the games, while NHL teams' stations can. But the games are available online in all cases, and with no in-market blackouts, but only the NBA and NHL are free.

 

[michael hagerty]

I liked KFWB news, back in the day, a hell of a lot more than KNX. They were just a better Group W product, then CBS came into the picture. KNX was determined to be the stronger station, and KDWB was sold off. Now, its crap.....

Minor points:

Westinghouse bought CBS, not the other way around.

With 50,000 watts to KFWB's 5,000, KNX wasn't "determined to be the stronger station", it just plain was. The physical spread of the L. A. metro and the increase in signal interference meant KFWB could no longer deliver an adequate signal to the entire market. Choosing to keep KNX (KFWB has not yet been sold, but is in a trust) over KFWB was the only intelligent choice.

 

[recto101]

I liked KFWB news, back in the day, a hell of a lot more than KNX. They were just a better Group W product, then CBS came into the picture. KNX was determined to be the stronger station, and KDWB was sold off. Now, its crap.....

Minor points:

Westinghouse bought CBS, not the other way around.

With 50,000 watts to KFWB's 5,000, KNX wasn't "determined to be the stronger station", it just plain was. The physical spread of the L. A. metro and the increase in signal interference meant KFWB could no longer deliver an adequate signal to the entire market. Choosing to keep KNX (KFWB has not yet been sold, but is in a trust) over KFWB was the only intelligent choice.

What were the ratings when KFWB was All-News vs KNX before Westinghouse bought CBS.

 

[michael hagerty]

I liked KFWB news, back in the day, a hell of a lot more than KNX. They were just a better Group W product, then CBS came into the picture. KNX was determined to be the stronger station, and KDWB was sold off. Now, its crap.....

Minor points:

Westinghouse bought CBS, not the other way around.

With 50,000 watts to KFWB's 5,000, KNX wasn't "determined to be the stronger station", it just plain was. The physical spread of the L. A. metro and the increase in signal interference meant KFWB could no longer deliver an adequate signal to the entire market. Choosing to keep KNX (KFWB has not yet been sold, but is in a trust) over KFWB was the only intelligent choice.

What were the ratings when KFWB was All-News vs KNX before Westinghouse bought CBS.

Mid 1s to low 2s, usually no more than half a point difference, with KFWB in the lead. But that was 17 years ago. As time went on and L.A. grew during the economic boom, KFWB's signal limitations became more apparent.

 

[DJBigOne]

Well, that's just not true. And you achieve it, for free, the same way you did 40 years ago, by turning on an AM radio.

I couldn't get the Clippers on my phone in 1972, either.

Michael is right. An older walkman FM radio with earbuds would have worked.

Several years ago, I was listening to Tom Leykis via walkman while weedeating a mountain-top electronics site. I felt a vibration. Is it my pager? Nope! Just a 4 foot rattlesnake about 6 feet away!

 

[the_wanderer]

agree KFWB was/is lame but still better than listening to limbaugh...

 

[davideduardo]

What were the ratings when KFWB was All-News vs KNX before Westinghouse bought CBS.

You can look at market by market Arbitron Ratings 1975-2004 summaries in the 60 editions of Duncan's American Radio:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Duncan-American-Radio-Issue-Guide.htm

 

[recto101]

What were the ratings when KFWB was All-News vs KNX before Westinghouse bought CBS.

You can look at market by market Arbitron Ratings 1975-2004 summaries in the 60 editions of Duncan's American Radio:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Duncan-American-Radio-Issue-Guide.htm

Thanks for the tip.