I just spoke with Chris and he hopes to have the station back on the air this weekend.
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
You picked a good time to make that guess, because I just now downloaded my custom airplay monitor charts from BDS for the past seven days. One of those charts consists only of major market stations which I know still do music research as David has explained. I see both a cumulative total of spins and station-specific data.
KRTH did not play that song at any point during the past week. WCBS played it five times.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
I'm just very happy to hear that my concerns about his own health are apparently unfounded.
That’s good, I wish him a speedy recovery
This version of the band is even more unrelated than Starship. More lawsuits have been filed.
Almost all original members have passed away except Grace Slick, who's in her 80s. She's not part of this incarnation.
A minor correction, K.M.:
Les left KFRC in 1980, replaced by Gerry Cagle, who was replaced in 1984 by Mike Phillips.
KFRC never played the version with Les Garland's voiceover. Instead, they wrote a similar but shorter rap allowing them to say "610 KFRC" twice as part of it....had Dave Sholin voice it, and dropped it into the gaps in the version of the single without the Garland voice.
And, ten months later, KFRC went standards as "Magic 61", retiring the song (and pretty much every other song) from the library.
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We had this conversation----wow---damn near ten years ago, in a thread about Classic Hits. A poster named RIN3GUY suggested that the tightening of the music library at KJMK in Joplin, Missouri was going to be a crushing failure using essentially the same logic.
KJMK's trend? 4.8-8.2-11.0-10.5.
The looser competitor that was supposedly going to benefit (KMXL): 9.6-8.8-8.1-7.0.
Nine years and three months later, the most recent book for Joplin, MO (Fall 2021) shows KJMK with a 9.8 share.
KMXL no longer subscribes to the ratings.
Who's thread was this? I actually don't recall this discussion. But RIN3GUY does ring a bell, from years back.
As for "We Built This City", I was 29 when the song came out, didn't have MTV in my apartment and so I was left with just the audio for a long time---I actually took it as being a statement from the former Airplane (though I guess Grace was the only one left from those days) about San Francisco---and how the fairly organic rock scene they (and the Dead, Country Joe and the Fish, Santana and Steve Miller) had built (which, if you're old enough to remember it, really did "build" that city's reputation in ways that still echo today) had given way to corporate plastic BS.
I think a lot of the hate comes from it being tied to a truly bad music video. "We Built This City" begins with a model of a small farm town, then we shift to Las Vegas for most of the video, until Les comes in with the San Francisco rap, but we cut back to people with the Vegas skyline behind them listening to him.
Huh?
To me the sellout came with "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". First time I heard that, I thought it was Sergio Mendes' follow-up to "Alibis". Couldn't figure out why Grace was working with Sergio.
I think a lot of the hate comes from it being tied to a truly bad music video. "We Built This City" begins with a model of a small farm town, then we shift to Las Vegas for most of the video, until Les comes in with the San Francisco rap, but we cut back to people with the Vegas skyline behind them listening to him.
Huh?
To me the sellout came with "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". First time I heard that, I thought it was Sergio Mendes' follow-up to "Alibis". Couldn't figure out why Grace was working with Sergio.
Semoochie started it, it ran for 58 pages, eight months of 2013 and I came back in 2019 with an update:
No, no, that's not what I'm implying. Small markets can play the hits, all the hits they want. They play the other hits that some big cities don't play. Certain songs may not be hits in L.A., but are acceptable to the audiences in other towns. "We Built This City" may be a stiff in L.A, but a hit in other towns. That song I chose is just an example David.
Here in SW Florida, LECOM Radio (WSRQ) had loads of music, for over a year now since moving here. I don't see any indications of playlist tightening yet, although I'm hearing a little less 60's and more 80's of late.
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Yeah, I recall that one now. That one went back and forth with some posters no longer on here. I think I'll just bury that one. 58 pages, wow!
The bigger markets don't play those songs because they are not hits today. They may have been a hit way-back-when, but they are no longer wanted or desired by current listeners today.
But if a song is uniformly not played by any station we know to be doing its own research, they are not hits TODAY.
The Whitburn books are relative to particular moments in time. They are not guides for anything that listeners want to hear today. They are as significant to today's radio airplay as the weather forecast from this date in 1982 is to the weather today. Zero, zilch, nada.
WSRQ is an unresearched noncommercial station outside a rather small market (Arcadia) with a couple of very limited translators. And a low power AM that goes down to 77 watts at night. They set a very poor example of what should be played on the radio.
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"Stiff" is probably not the right word. KRTH isn't playing it, but that could be a question of fit or flow with the songs they do play.
WCBS-FM, on the other hand, does play it....and they do their own research, too.
One of the differences is that KRTH is targeting a bit younger than CBS-FM. Both take Hispanics into a large account, but in each market the Hispanic population is different in ethnicity, group permanence in the US and racial characteristics. Under age 55, LA is over 50% Hispanic. In NYC the percentage is lower and the population is older and of later generation.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
You know, I'm so used to him telling me he was PD at the time, it never occurred to me to doublecheck the timeline! Thanks.
He’s probably still trying to forget Eddie Murphy bringing him out of the Late Night audience to meet David Letterman. Eddie introduced him as the head of MTV. Dave shook Les’ hand and said:
“Oh, a cable weasel!”
KFXM is back up and streaming tunes again. There were other online oldies stations and channels I listened to before I went to bed while it was down, but I couldn't find any I liked as much. The original KFXM was one of the two San Bernardino stations I listened to when I lived in Riverside in the 60's.
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