KFYI - syndicated heavy

[azenergyfan]

With the addition of Savage to KFYI that brings their daily syndicated hours to 16. Do we really need that much syndicated talk from one of the two biggest talkers in town? I could understand one of the minor league talk stations being heavily syndicated but KFYI?

I pose these questions?

Do we really need Rush and Sean Live or partially live?
Do we need 7 hours of coast coast?

I think its sad they rely so much on syndicated programming when there are many local issues to be talked about here in phoenix.

 

[buster2]

It's not a popular sentiment on this board, but most listeners probably don't care about local vs. syndication. Yes, people want local topics, but there is room for national discussion as well. The fact that Rush consistently beats KTAR (for now, at least) proves that it's possible. (I realize in some markets local hosts outperform Rush, but it's not the norm.) Radio programmers are interested in what people will listen to and what advertisers will buy. If a syndicated show has enough listeners and generates revenues, station management will be happy. If they lose listeners or money with a syndicated host, they'll try something else. This is especially true after 6 or 7 PM. Let's be honest, it's a talk radio graveyard after PM drive. Most people are at home watching TV, hitting the clubs, working on a project or doing something else. The people listening to talk radio after 7 PM are mostly in their cars for a short time, listening at some job where you can work and listen to the radio at the same time, or they have no life. They're not huddled around the radio in the family room listening to the latest pearls of wisdom from Gaydos. The best use of a local slot at that time is to develop talent, so having a syndie host in there is a shame in that regard.

 

[KeithE4]

Do we really need Rush and Sean Live or partially live?
Do we need 7 hours of coast coast?

Limbaugh & Hannity are the 800-lb gorillas of news-oriented talk radio. I'll guess that only a few local news/talkers outside of the top 10 markets can beat them.

And between 7 PM and 5 AM, almost nobody's listening to AM at all except for sports, and most of them tune in only when a game is being carried (how many people listen to J.T the Brick at night compared to Jim Rome during the day?)

 

[ajhenderson]

Most people are at home watching TV, hitting the clubs, working on a project or doing something else.

KFYI listeners... clubbing? You must mean hitting the clubs in canasta... along with the hearts, jacks, and diamonds.

The main point on the syndication issue is that KFYI runs the best shows, not just syndie for the sake syndie. Whatever they don't fill with a top-flight national show, they go local. There's a difference between having a good part of the day filled with the best of the best national shows, and a station like the old 1010 that plugged in whatever shows were live in a certain daypart.

Savage just so happens to be coming in as hiring freezes hit your friendly local CC cluster nationally, but at what point where they going to hire a fulltime local talker? They haven't had one of any significance since Joe Crummey followed Liddy and Hill! None of the Wheel o' Hosts members had anything that exciting to offer. Sure, there are good talkers who would have taken the slot, but in this day and age, you'd actually ask a PD to proactively scout for new talent?!?!

As to Coast to Coast, what else would you propose? It's a leader most places it's on. Even markets like Flagstaff which really aren't strong N/T towns do very well with it. KFI/LA, the west coast flagship, tried pre-empting it back to 1am two years or so ago for a local show with John Ziegler. Turned out people want seven hours of martian anal probes a night!

 

[Legend City]

I just can't stand Michael Weiner Savage, Have no desire to listen.

At least with the wheel of hosts, you had some good stuff with Mike Siegel and Liebo, Gilberg and that other woman were terrible.

Oh well, its still winter, I'll listen to KFI out of LA at night.

 

[zumahans]

Savage. KFYI.

Like stink to a sewer.

 

[pberger]

From what you guys say, I am a freak. 95% of my radio listening is to AM. The other 5% is XM or Sirius.

I do not like syndicated shows, especially those that are delayed. I like local talk. I watch Horizon on TV, and am having trouble finding Radio shows that I like. I do listen after 7 p.m.....the only local show I can find is Jeffry O'Brien at 9 p.m. I miss KTAR AM. It was always my old standby, if there was else on I could always try KTAR. Now, I don't bother switching to FM just to hear KTAR....it's not not that interesting. KFYI has really let me down, at a time when they could really have prospered. Instead of ignoring AM, they should have capitalized on KTAR abandoning AM. After 10 p.m., I listen mostly to distant AM stations: KGO, KFI (not coast to coast), KOA, KCBS, KNX.

I am seriously looking for an AM transmitter, so that I could rebroadcast something from XM or Sirrius and pick it up within my house on AM. Any recommendations?

If you like syndicated shows, I suppose you prefer to read USA Today vs. The Rag. (I don't read either). But why read a paper that ignores 99% of what is going on around you. Same is true for radio.

Maybe it is time for KKNT to put in a little extra effort and fill the void.

I fondly remember the days of Sam Steiger, Bill Straus, Leibo, Mohan. They talked about local issues, and you could gather a good sample of community feeling by what the callers had to say.

 

[j henry waugh]

From what you guys say, I am a freak. 95% of my radio listening is to AM. The other 5% is XM or Sirius.

Podcasts (many of which are radio shows that don't broadcast in Valley market or are just podcast only talk shows like Leo Laporte twit.tv network or Economist magazine) have supplanted the lack of decent AM talk programming for me.

/agreed, would much rather listen to quality local fare

Limbaugh & Hannity are the 800-lb gorillas of news-oriented talk radio.

/sad, not sure if that's a indictment of sordid state of education in this country, or the stupid has just manifested and multiplied that only xenophobic misanthropic hate mongers frothing at the mouth can garner an audience draw in the genre of talk radio…

At least with the wheel of hosts, you had some good stuff with Mike Siegel and Liebo, Gilberg and that other woman were terrible.

/agreed, was the only time I really set the dial to KFYI 550… …but Savage fits right in there, along with the rest of the racist eliminiationist rhetoric spewing…

They're not huddled around the radio in the family room listening to the latest pearls of wisdom from Gaydos

Good Gates, I sure hope not. That is the description of one seriously troubled individual…

 

[ajhenderson]

Limbaugh & Hannity are the 800-lb gorillas of news-oriented talk radio.

/sad, not sure if that's a indictment of sordid state of education in this country, or the stupid has just manifested and multiplied that only xenophobic misanthropic hate mongers frothing at the mouth can garner an audience draw in the genre of talk radio…

Well, whatever, this is a radio board, and we talk about what people listen to, not why, as we don't care.

 

[KeithE4]

Limbaugh & Hannity are the 800-lb gorillas of news-oriented talk radio.

/sad, not sure if that's a indictment of sordid state of education in this country, or the stupid has just manifested and multiplied that only xenophobic misanthropic hate mongers frothing at the mouth can garner an audience draw in the genre of talk radio…

Careful, before this thread gets yanked over to Off The Air. ;D

Seriously, the fact that both hosts are conservatives makes no difference as far as what I'm talking about (and, for the record, I like Limbaugh, can't stand Hannity, and don't always agree with either of them). I'd say the same thing about Al Franken and Randi Rhodes if they were the top syndicated hosts. Politics has nothing to do with this subject. Entertainment value does.

Agree with their politics or not, the fact is that Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity are the #1 and #2 syndicated hosts in the country and most talk-show hosts, local or national, can't come close to competing with them. They, along with Jim Rome, own midday AM radio.

 

[j henry waugh]

Seriously, the fact that both hosts are conservatives makes no difference as far as what I'm talking about (and, for the record, I like Limbaugh, can't stand Hannity, and don't always agree with either of them). I'd say the same thing about Al Franken and Randi Rhodes if they were the top syndicated hosts. Politics has nothing to do with this subject. Entertainment value does.

Politics has nothing to do with I'm talking about either... ...Mike Malloy/Randi Rhodes are just as putrid and misanthropic as their conservative brethren... ...I'm addressing the quality of the show, regardless of the host leanings -- just that evidence is brought to the air, dissenting voices aired and listeners encouraged to come to their own conclusions instead of bully tactics and berating...

 

[Legend City]

Waugh, I appreciate your views, but not some of the bombast. You accused listeners of Crummey to white power advocates last week, that is too much.

I'm a conservative, but no fan of Limbaugh or Hannity or Savage, but they do a good job and get good ratings. I'm no fan of Air America, but they have their fan base and its good for radio to have alternative points of view.

I wish KFYI had more local content, but they have never been able to do anything with 7PM, ranging all the way back to Mary Ann Watkins, Ken Hamblin, Mohan, Phil Hendrie, Scott Connor, Wheel of Cheese, etc.

But, I understand that Cheap Channel is cutting to the bone, and they can get away with it in this market because after KFYI and KTAR, everything else is miles behind in the race.

 

[j henry waugh]

You accused listeners of Crummey to white power advocates last week, that is too much.

No, I did not.

I stated that the host was guilty of talking over and berating a guest.

Which is the M.O. for the station in general if any credible or even non-credible guest has a dissenting view from the eliminationist rhetoric preached which does border on latent racism…

 

[Legend City]

Think out your rants and present them in a more clear manner.

You seem to think that many conservatives are just evil people beneath their skin.

Its ok that you have your political beliefs, but honestly, "eliminationist rhetoric preached which does border on latent racism"

Come on, can the hyperbole. :

You think its racist because Crummey disagreed with the anger that Maupin was venting? He said that Glendale was racist because of prop 300 and not letting him march (even though he didn't follow procedures and get a permit in time).

I thought Crummey was pretty restrained, guys like Maupin want to create strife where there isn't any as a means to attain fame.

 

[j henry waugh]

Its ok that you have your political beliefs, but honestly, "eliminationist rhetoric preached which does border on latent racism"

There are entire websites devoted to chronicling the racist, eliminationist rhetoric preached by Limbaugh, Savage and their local station wannabes…

…I could fill the board full of all the examples, but that would entail hijacking of a thread titled "KFYI - syndicated heavy"…

And NO, I don't think disagreeing with Maupin marks one as racist — but when one goes to the extreme of talking over and belittling a guest (playing to the "white power" crowd) — along with effectively marginalizing folks that are "the least of these", that is children of unauthorized immigrants who've never know anywhere else as home, that is a textbook definition of latent racism.

 

[jailart]

kfnx had signs on taxis saying goyette savage...now they lost savage..last time I checked we have a 1st admendment...and people have a right to be racist and listen to what they want...

 

[brian4]

kfnx had signs on taxis saying goyette savage

There are also several bus stop signs with KFNX/Goyette/Savage. Wonder how long those will last?

 

[Legend City]

KFNX should do truth in advertising.

Goyette, infomercials, sleazy nutjobs selling gold, static

 

[j henry waugh]

..last time I checked we have a 1st admendment...and people have a right to be racist and listen to what they want...

/agree

 

[j henry waugh]

KFNX should do truth in advertising.

Goyette, infomercials, sleazy nutjobs selling gold, static

And they should have their license stripped from them for blatantly abusing the public interest.

What a waste of frequency.