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KFYI - Why so strong

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azenergyfan

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Ok so I have to ask, why is KFYI so strong with the limbaugh hannity one two punch. Its pretty much the same ol bush talk for six hours. Are the people in phoenix only interested in this canned bush talk for six straight hours? I just find it amazing that this station gets good ratings along with our president having the lowest approval rating in our countries history. Kinda makes me go hmmmm.
 
yeah that approval rating blows, but the same rating for Congress blows even more!

KFWhyEye succeeds because they know exactly what their audience wants and delivers it consistently. Not only Rush & Sean, but Bruce Jacobs..the nearly Bald One...JD Blowhard...and Savage combine to make 5~Fifty a pretty formidable station. The fact that KT'R has been on FM for almost two years and hasn't come close to derailing KFWhyEye has not been lost on Nurse Jeff and me.
 
I have to say though it is kinda sad for our city that this is what we as a majority want to listen to.
 
See, it helps if you don't tip off in your post that you don't actually listen to the program you're slagging. While Hannity may or may not be guilty of "Bush talk", Limbaugh's program over the last several months has been just about everything but. If anything, it's been an equal opportunity offender, between offering up nearly wall-to-wall Operation: Chaos during the Dem primaries and slipping in both substantive and ad-hominem McCain-bashing to fill any remaining airtime. To the extent the current CiC even gets namechecked, it's to rip him for his latest one-fingered salute to his putative base.

That this sort of thing resonates even in Arizona, the only place in the country where McCain's personality cult can be said to overshadow Our Lord Obama's, is nothing short of shocking, and speaks volumes wrt the savvy of AZ news-talk customers.

And wrt the fact that his primary competition is still Aunt Carlo.
 
azenergyfan said:
I have to say though it is kinda sad for our city that this is what we as a majority want to listen to.

You aren't getting it azenergy. The majority don't listen to the Bush propaganda on 550. They have a very small audience but like Doc said the audience is diehard. Most of them are old conservatives (65+) who listen all day at home. 620 and 92.3 have much larger audiences but their listeners don't listen all day long at home.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
yeah that approval rating blows, but the same rating for Congress blows even more!

KFWhyEye succeeds because they know exactly what their audience wants and delivers it consistently. Not only Rush & Sean, but Bruce Jacobs..the nearly Bald One...JD Blowhard...and Savage combine to make 5~Fifty a pretty formidable station. The fact that KT'R has been on FM for almost two years and hasn't come close to derailing KFWhyEye has not been lost on Nurse Jeff and me.

And THAT's why HE is the Dr.! Dead on!
 
thenewz said:
azenergyfan said:
I have to say though it is kinda sad for our city that this is what we as a majority want to listen to.

You aren't getting it azenergy. The majority don't listen to the Bush propaganda on 550. They have a very small audience but like Doc said the audience is diehard. Most of them are old conservatives (65+) who listen all day at home. 620 and 92.3 have much larger audiences but their listeners don't listen all day long at home.

There you go again, the newz! Sayin' KFYI appeals to the old folks when it's KT'R that caters to Granny and her toaster! If it were true that the majority of KFYI's listeners were 65+, they couldn't AFFORD Limbaugh and Hannity.
 
azenergyfan - What talk radio station do you listen to? I can tell by your post that you don't listen to KFYI, with your post mentioning typical "Bush" comments... The comment about the only 65+ age group listed here was also pulled out of thin air. KTAR can only dream of pulling the ratings on FM that KFYI pulls on AM.
 
I check out the following daily:

Jacobs
Mac
Gaydos
Dave Ramsey
Hannity
Hendrie

I just don't get why political talk radio draws so many people in. There is so much going on in arizona these days and it is suprising that two shows talking out national topics draws so many people in.
 
Dabowlur said:
azenergyfan - What talk radio station do you listen to? I can tell by your post that you don't listen to KFYI, with your post mentioning typical "Bush" comments... The comment about the only 65+ age group listed here was also pulled out of thin air. KTAR can only dream of pulling the ratings on FM that KFYI pulls on AM.

Sorry, Darfur, not thin air my masa. This comes from the crew at Arbitron. The numeros show 620 beat 550 in April 2554. Also, 550 listener's average age in winter was 67. 92.3's average age was 47. Not mi numeros. Arbitross.
 
I am going to be forward here...

I have read similar discussions within other markets, and formats. Sometimes the listeners have a little different taste and preferences than those who are in radio. (ok so they get shoveled shit on occasion) Sometimes that's all they know.

IF someone was to actually do surveys on the streets of Phoenix (I hear corporate radio grumbling as we speak) and actually find out first hand what they listen to and why... Radio can't rely on phone participation, or diaries. Although that's what we do, How many stations have you heard that have hired independent consulting firms that actually went out on the streets asking for opinions from listeners and prospective listeners?


Just remember those 12 year old girls that ask for Chris Brown 3 times an hour may be onto something, as well as those 59 year old men who want more news and traffic at 5 pm on their drive home than 8-15 minutes of network at the top of the hour.

Leaving you something to think about...
 
Gaydos is a joke.
I can flip around & stomach just about any host on the talk stations except this guy.
Whenever I hear his voice (whether he's sitting in with someone or not) I flip the dial.

He's a no talent, opinionated clown.
 
The Beave said:
IF someone was to actually do surveys on the streets of Phoenix (I hear corporate radio grumbling as we speak)

Most of the larger stations in Phoenix do surveys of their listeners (or of the market if looking for a new format) all the time. We don't do them on the streets (you must be a bit looped to suggest this on a day the tempreature hit 111), but in comfortable locations with air conditioning and snacks.

and actually find out first hand what they listen to and why.

We do this, as an industry, all the time.

.. Radio can't rely on phone participation,

If you mean "phone surveys" these are very useful as not all people want to go to an interview or music test location but are willing to take as much as 45 minutes for a phone survey.

or diaries.

Just about every advertiser in America accepts Arbitron and the diary ratings. Why do you think that a universally accepted method of measureing audience is wrong? By the way, diaries are used to measure listening only, not how people feel about programming, songs, DJs, formats, etc.

Although that's what we do, How many stations have you heard that have hired independent consulting firms that actually went out on the streets asking for opinions from listeners and prospective listeners?

Consultants do not do research. Consultants help stations, among other things, to interpret research done by professional research companies that use professional recruiters to find respndents.

Just remember those 12 year old girls that ask for Chris Brown 3 times an hour may be onto something, as well as those 59 year old men who want more news and traffic at 5 pm on their drive home than 8-15 minutes of network at the top of the hour.

Neither the 12 year olds nor the 59 year olds are of interest to radio. Advertisers are not asking for those demos, so radio does not ´rogram to them.

Leaving you something to think about...

Not really.
 
David,

Maybe you missed my point between the lines... With radio starting to feel economic pinch, superserving could be the solution. The previous were mere suggestions to get a bigger slice outside the box. When I referred to "Consultants" I meant research firms outside of broadcasting that would not provide a reach to biased in house listeners, such as focus groups, and the like.

More in the direction of John Q. Public the non active listener that does not participate in contests, call in topics, remotes.

Can we actually read the listener's mind?

I don't think so. :D

If there is anyone who can with certainty, I would like to meet them.

I have done broadcast operations/programming before.

Everybody wants to make a buck, but usually it takes money to make money.

I'm sorry you don't agree.
 
The Beave said:
. When I referred to "Consultants" I meant research firms outside of broadcasting that would not provide a reach to biased in house listeners, such as focus groups, and the like.

Radio stations use research companies that know radio. They have the systems, software and experience to try to get to the heart of any matter, whether it is what songs to play, what direction the morning show should take or even what format the station should pick.

More in the direction of John Q. Public the non active listener that does not participate in contests, call in topics, remotes.

Most of us do not research active listener specifically, and don't use polls or surveys at remotes, events or on the phone to the studio for anything except leading edge movement. We mostly try to pick the same exact kind of people who would participate in ratings.
 
David,

Do you have the same "April 25-54" numbers (extraps?) as posted in reply #12
in our never-ending 55/FYI vs. KT'R-FM ratings claim tango?...

thenewz said:
This comes from the crew at Arbitron. The numeros show 620 beat 550 in April 2554.
 
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