KGIL: Saul's 10th Spin at the Format Wheel?

[scooty430]

I would think the type of person attracted to standards would be SO confused by now as to be almost unreachable. They've popped in and out of standards for so long, I know most 75 year olds I know would have given up long ago. Moreover, it's unlikely the typical senior citizen is going to hear that "standards are back!" and flock to 1260. If Saul had just stuck with standards the whole time, in the long run at least people would have known 1260=Standards.

Anyway, I say SHUFFLE! ......(Or Real Oldies with depth.)

 

[nmoore6676]

I would think the type of person attracted to standards would be SO confused by now as to be almost unreachable. They've popped in and out of standards for so long, I know most 75 year olds I know would have given up long ago. Moreover, it's unlikely the typical senior citizen is going to hear that "standards are back!" and flock to 1260. If Saul had just stuck with standards the whole time, in the long run at least people would have known 1260=Standards.

Anyway, I say SHUFFLE! ......(Or Real Oldies with depth.)

Another vote for shuffle or real oldies. I found a really good station out of Cincinnati and they do it right. http://www.oldies1160.com/

Most of the commercials are for Viagra and Caskets and Mortuaries while I was listening this afternoon. The classic country station I listen too also has a lot of senior interest commercials so Saul could get advertisers and with KKGO doing well he can afford to do it if he runs it cheap.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Another vote for shuffle or real oldies. I found a really good station out of Cincinnati and they do it right. http://www.oldies1160.com/

They used to be better but since they've relocated to 1480 AM with a poorer signal they are not as good.

 

[nmoore6676]

Another vote for shuffle or real oldies. I found a really good station out of Cincinnati and they do it right. http://www.oldies1160.com/

They used to be better but since they've relocated to 1480 AM with a poorer signal they are not as good.

The 1480 move was not by choice, they LMA'd 1160 and when the signal (1160) went up for sale the actual owners refused to sell to them. At the same time WCIN-1480 was for sale and available to them. Since I don't live in Ohio any more and not in Cincy when I did their local signal coverage means nothing to me, the music is the same as before. I only meant that if that format executed in a similar manner were to come to 1260 here it would be good. And the signal challenges are comparable being that KGIL has more power than WCIN but they dump most of it on the Pacific missing major areas of LA. Perhaps WCIN will get some FM translators to fill in the holes or they could even pick up some suburban AM's for a song in SW Ohio and Kentuckiana.

 

[secret]

With all due respect for his many years in the jazz and classical formats (and for keeping it local despite incredible offers to sell), you have to wonder what Levine is thinking about. 1260, 540 and 1510 in S.F. (while he owned it) have been flavor-of-the-month stations for years. The guy chages format more often than I change my shirt. Call it capricious or genius (and it's been called both), when I read about another format change at Saul's stations, my thoughts immediately go out to the people who suddenly find themselves on the street. But that's show biz, right?

 

[radiojomo]

They could start picking up a syndication of KPIG through Dial Global. I know they have it on an AM in SF.

 

[scooty430]

Man, I would love to hear KPIG locally.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Let's face it though... That format (KPIG's) just doesn't sound right on AM. The few AAA/Americana AM stations don't last long -- KCUV Denver area was on 1510 AM before they moved to FM a few years later, now they're off the air entirely... I think there was a similar station on 1060 AM in Phoenix a few years ago. However I'd applaud them if they did that .. which they won't likely do heh heh. English language modern music on AM in the U.S. just doesn't happen anymore unless it's 50s/60s oldies or standards.

 

[musicfan101]

With all due respect for his many years in the jazz and classical formats (and for keeping it local despite incredible offers to sell), you have to wonder what Levine is thinking about. 1260, 540 and 1510 in S.F. (while he owned it) have been flavor-of-the-month stations for years. The guy chages format more often than I change my shirt. Call it capricious or genius (and it's been called both), when I read about another format change at Saul's stations, my thoughts immediately go out to the people who suddenly find themselves on the street. But that's show biz, right?

Was anyone here familiar with KYOU Radio? You know, the station that used to just broadcast nothing but popular podcasts? Do you think that would work for 1260???

 

[ChannelFlipper]

With all due respect for his many years in the jazz and classical formats (and for keeping it local despite incredible offers to sell), you have to wonder what Levine is thinking about. 1260, 540 and 1510 in S.F. (while he owned it) have been flavor-of-the-month stations for years. The guy chages format more often than I change my shirt. Call it capricious or genius (and it's been called both), when I read about another format change at Saul's stations, my thoughts immediately go out to the people who suddenly find themselves on the street. But that's show biz, right?

When working for Saul, you can only rent, never buy.

 

[radiojomo]

Was anyone here familiar with KYOU Radio? You know, the station that used to just broadcast nothing but popular podcasts? Do you think that would work for 1260???

That experiment ended up being a failure. At the end, KYOU ended up being a regular Hot Talk station.

 

[nmoore6676]

With all due respect for his many years in the jazz and classical formats (and for keeping it local despite incredible offers to sell), you have to wonder what Levine is thinking about. 1260, 540 and 1510 in S.F. (while he owned it) have been flavor-of-the-month stations for years. The guy chages format more often than I change my shirt. Call it capricious or genius (and it's been called both), when I read about another format change at Saul's stations, my thoughts immediately go out to the people who suddenly find themselves on the street. But that's show biz, right?

When working for Saul, you can only rent, never buy.

Not necessarily true, Mike Johnson has survived all of the format changes and was even involved with KKGO country (AM and FM) for a while. Also John Reagan survive a lot of the musical vagaries until the flip to country on AM then to Classical. Several other personnel at Mount Wilson enjoyed some respectable tenure, just can't recall all of their names. I think it is hard to maintain an AM station with marginal penetration in a market like LA.

My only question is why did he buy it in the first place. Maybe better if he had left it as a Valley oriented station, which it was assigned to be. Because of protection of other stations on the same and adjacent channels it can not achieve enough coverage, even with the 4 fold power increase to make a dent in the ratings even should Saul got the impossible dream and be able put on all of KFI's programming. Almost all of the 20KW goes out to sea and significant areas have no coverage or very noisy listening conditions.

 

[musicfan101]

Was anyone here familiar with KYOU Radio? You know, the station that used to just broadcast nothing but popular podcasts? Do you think that would work for 1260???

That experiment ended up being a failure. At the end, KYOU ended up being a regular Hot Talk station.

He should still try it out....

 

[radiocph]

Was anyone here familiar with KYOU Radio? You know, the station that used to just broadcast nothing but popular podcasts? Do you think that would work for 1260???

That experiment ended up being a failure. At the end, KYOU ended up being a regular Hot Talk station.

He should still try it out....

Wouldn't it be expensive to hire someone and listen to all those podcasts before they went on the air? (What if someone tried to slip in some actionable content?)