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KGO 810 Stunting

TomásEstefan said:
Not a false memory, the radio had KPO printed on the dial at the 810 spot just like it had KFI at 640, and KNBC at 680. That's what led me to believe that KPO was KGOs original callsign. I listened to this radio in my Aunt's office when I worked there in my early teens. As I noted before this was an RCA "Stationized" AM radio...who knows where they got their information prior to manufacturing.
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If you don't still have the radio to compare, you're going strictly on memory. False memories are very powerful. The ones I've had have been from 30 to 50 years and I could swear that they were true! You get two similar things and your mind puts them together. What's more likely is that KNBC wasn't there at all, with KPO on 680 and KGO on 810. I remember seeing those radios. They had local and distant stations printed right on the dial. Others had printable labels.
 
An easy way to settle that discussion would be for someone to find a pic of an RCA stationized radio dial of that era.
 
semoochie said:
If you don't still have the radio to compare, you're going strictly on memory. False memories are very powerful. The ones I've had have been from 30 to 50 years and I could swear that they were true! You get two similar things and your mind puts them together. What's more likely is that KNBC wasn't there at all, with KPO on 680 and KGO on 810. I remember seeing those radios. They had local and distant stations printed right on the dial. Others had printable labels.
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You've proved me to be delusional! I found a Packard Bell which indeed shows KPO on 680 and KGO possibly on 790. Now I'm wondering whether it was really an RCA, I suppose it could have been PB!
 
boombox4 said:
An easy way to settle that discussion would be for someone to find a pic of an RCA stationized radio dial of that era.
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Remember, there were regional versions of the dial legends. In addition, many radios had little labels you could put on the dial or on push button settings.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Or you can go back to 1920 with many hundreds of lists:

RADIO LOG BOOKS - Radio station logbooks and listings from 1923 to 2022.

White's, Stevenson's and others: Complete lists of radio stations by call letters, frequency and city for stations in the US, Canada and Mexico
worldradiohistory.com

RADEX - Radio Index 1925-1942 Station lists and profiles

Radio Index or "Radex" was published from 1925 until 1942. It contained accurate listings of all station in the US as well as Canda, Mexico and other nations as well as articles about programs, DX and reception. published through the 1987 with a review of the year's programming, cultural and...
worldradiohistory.com

Sample from 1925

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Or from 1923

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Why do the Arkansas stations have "W" calls? Was the K/W boundary farther west in 1925? (Also funny to see WGAR in Fort Smith rather than Cleveland, and WGAN in sunny Pensacola rather than snowy Portland, but of course, very few calls are now where they were 97 years ago.)
 
CTListener said:
Why do the Arkansas stations have "W" calls? Was the K/W boundary farther west in 1925? (Also funny to see WGAR in Fort Smith rather than Cleveland, and WGAN in sunny Pensacola rather than snowy Portland, but of course, very few calls are now where they were 97 years ago.)
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The boundary shift to the Mississippi occurred in 1923, I believe. Some existing stations [west of the Mississippi] with call letters beginning with W, have retained their call letters, and some, like WBAP in Dallas, are still in existence today.

I'm guessing the Arkansas stations with "W" calls have signed on prior to 1923.
 
Here in the Chica ago market, WSCR (670) is all sports, and significantly increasing its sports betting content.. WMVP (1000) an "also ran" competitor also has also been dabbling in sports gambling. But, if any of the big AM signals here would be ripe for a flip, my guess is that it would be WLS-AM (890), an underperformer and a Cumulus station like KGO.
 
The call is still KGO, incidentally. Just heard it via a Bay Area SDR.
cyberdad said:
Here in the Chica ago market, WSCR (670) is all sports, and significantly increasing its sports betting content.. WMVP (1000) an "also ran" competitor also has also been dabbling in sports gambling. But, if any of the big AM signals here would be ripe for a flip, my guess is that it would be WLS-AM (890), an underperformer and a Cumulus station like KGO.
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WCFS-FM's HD2 is "The Bet" with a national sports betting network, "BetQL Audio," some of which is carried on KGO.

If KGO has any ratings success – and it's against all-sports KNBR – Cumulus would certainly be tempted to change WLS, which would mean three 50 kW sports stations in Chicago. How many would be too many?
 
tvnut said:
The call is still KGO, incidentally. Just heard it via a Bay Area SDR.

WCFS-FM's HD2 is "The Bet" with a national sports betting network, "BetQL Audio," some of which is carried on KGO.

If KGO has any ratings success – and it's against all-sports KNBR – Cumulus would certainly be tempted to change WLS, which would mean three 50 kW sports stations in Chicago. How many would be too many?
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Once again, emphasizing "ratings" is previous-millennium thinking when it comes to these apocalyptic days of AM. Don't think of any AM sports betting station as "competition" for stations that talk about sports teams, their games, their players and their controversies with no or only incidental mention of gambling. Sports betting stations arrive basically pre-sold, and the spots that run on them are all from businesses that don't care if 100 or 1 million people are listening, just as long as they have an interest in gambling on sports, The "success" of BetQL and any other sports gambling networks that may emerge will never be measured in ratings.
 
Having listened to KGO for some 45 minutes today while Jim Rome was on – note that KGO isn't running all-gambling programming all the time – I can tell you that not all their spots are from gambling businesses. Some might have been carryovers from the previous format, but some, for instance for a local clinic for ED help and the like, probably are new accounts. I would think they're interested in the size of the audience.
 
CTListener said:
Once again, emphasizing "ratings" is previous-millennium thinking when it comes to these apocalyptic days of AM. Don't think of any AM sports betting station as "competition" for stations that talk about sports teams, their games, their players and their controversies with no or only incidental mention of gambling. Sports betting stations arrive basically pre-sold, and the spots that run on them are all from businesses that don't care if 100 or 1 million people are listening, just as long as they have an interest in gambling on sports, The "success" of BetQL and any other sports gambling networks that may emerge will never be measured in ratings.
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This: When it comes to sports or now sports betting, ratings don't work as any success of failure scoreboard.
 
tvnut said:
Having listened to KGO for some 45 minutes today while Jim Rome was on – note that KGO isn't running all-gambling programming all the time – I can tell you that not all their spots are from gambling businesses. Some might have been carryovers from the previous format, but some, for instance for a local clinic for ED help and the like, probably are new accounts. I would think they're interested in the size of the audience.
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How could they have spots from new accounts when the flip just took place yesterday? Could they be bonus spots from other stations in the cluster?
 
They could be bonus spots, or sales was working in advance, the same way the first issue of a magazine has ads on it.
 
I miss the old days of KGO when Ray Taliaferro was on late at night and he was always impressed with how far away his callers were hearing the show.

Always wondered how far east KGO has ever been heard at night.
 
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