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KGO To Go All News

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I know this is out of the L.A. market, but I thought it was interesting that Citadel fired Gene Burns, Rothman, Ray Taliaferro, and Gil Gross to make way for an all-news radio station.

Could the Bay Area support two news stations, especially going up against one that is doing well on FM?

If I am correct I don't think Citadel has an FM outlet in the Bay Area.

Is it cheaper to do all-news than pay for and maintain local, legendary Bay Area talk show hosts?
 
Wow. All-news is not a cheap format. I wonder if Cumulus has any idea what it's going to cost to be even remotely competitive with KCBS.
 
I haven't listened to the station much, even when I am in town (KFOG time for me!), so someone please correct me if I am wrong, but aren't all those guys old liberal, or at best middle of the road, talkers in the Michael Jackson genre, but without the Erudite One's obnoxious sense of self-importance? If that is the case, I am surprised it lasted this long even in SF. I've heard Ray's show before and it is a very good remedy for insomnia. I gotta believe the others aren't too different.

KGO always reminds me of your grandfather's radio station. Problem is, after awhile, granddad is no longer with us, and if he is no longer with us, he's not listening anymore either.
 
Well...

Turns out KGO is going all-news from 2 p.m. until midnight.

Do you think KABC could go the same route, or even KLOS for that matter?
 
emailfailed said:
Well...

Turns out KGO is going all-news from 2 p.m. until midnight.

Do you think KABC could go the same route, or even KLOS for that matter?
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KGO has existing all-news blocks from 5-9 AM, 12 noon-1 PM and 4-7 PM.
Word is Ronn Owens survives in 9-Noon for now because they don't want to spend what it would take to buy out his no-cut contract.
 
Move this tread to the San Francisco Market?
How can KGO go all News? Remember KNAI 99.7 San Francisco in the 1970's they were all news but they were run-over by KCBS 740am in the ratings.
 
emailfailed said:
I know this is out of the L.A. market, but I thought it was interesting that Citadel fired Gene Burns, Rothman, Ray Taliaferro, and Gil Gross to make way for an all-news radio station.

Could the Bay Area support two news stations, especially going up against one that is doing well on FM?

If I am correct I don't think Citadel has an FM outlet in the Bay Area.

Is it cheaper to do all-news than pay for and maintain local, legendary Bay Area talk show hosts?
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Look at KFWB it was all news until CBS decided that all news operations will only be at KNX 1070.
 
Recto101: It's already on the San Francisco board. It's relevant here because KABC and KGO are co-owned and have had essentially the same format for 50 years.

As for the KNX-KFWB analogy, this is totally different. KFWB was (more or less) switched to give KNX a chance to improve (and, from the looks of the PPMs, it's worked). But before they were both owned by CBS, they were fierce competitors.

It appears Cumulus wants to compete with CBS for the all-news audience in San Francisco in much the same way Group W (Westinghouse) used to compete with KNX when it owned KFWB (and in New York, with WCBS when Group W owned WINS).

The two big questions:

Do they have a chance?

If it succeeds on any level in San Francisco, might they do the same with KABC? Lord knows what they're doing now isn't working, but KABC has signal challenges that KGO doesn't.
 
It seems to me that between the Cit. guys and Cumeless guys they pretty much took a cash cow station and rammed it right into the ground. Now they are trying a different direction. My guess is they will fail at it. Cheap broadcasters should stay out of talk and news. Spin the hits out of a automation system and call it day...
 
recto101 said:
Move this tread to the San Francisco Market?
How can KGO go all News? Remember KNAI 99.7 San Francisco in the 1970's they were all news but they were run-over by KCBS 740am in the ratings.
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Wasn't that the old NBC News and Information Service?
 
ercjncpr said:
recto101 said:
Move this tread to the San Francisco Market?
How can KGO go all News? Remember KNAI 99.7 San Francisco in the 1970's they were all news but they were run-over by KCBS 740am in the ratings.
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Wasn't that the old NBC News and Information Service?
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Yes. Lets wait for KABC to consider an FM outlet and KNX to consider an FM outlet for all news.
 
recto101 said:
Move this tread to the San Francisco Market?
How can KGO go all News? Remember KNAI 99.7 San Francisco in the 1970's they were all news but they were run-over by KCBS 740am in the ratings.
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As you said, that was the late 1970s - way to soon for a successful news and information service on the FM band. Since it was entirely from the NBC network and had little or no local content, NBC probably decided it was worth a try. Top 40 was still doing respectively well on AM in those days.

Don't forget KGO-FM, with the ABC Talk Radio network in the 80s. Also too soon. And finally - KPIX-FM with news, then talk in the 90s. Not too soon, but badly executed.
 
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