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Mike Brewer
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Interesting choice of formats, but with them on 95.3 it should help get bigger numbers.
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Oldies in this day and age is the new Adult Standards and targeting the same age and demo as Adult Standards did in the '70s/'80s/'90s.
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Sorry guys, you didn't get rid of me that easily.
I'm enjoying KGY 1240 as I am writing this. I have not had much luck trying to get anything on 95.3, however. I still get a mix of a KXXK pipeline, and CKZZ (depending on my location). I suppose there are some listeners in east Gray's Harbour country who are not too happy about that translator, but there are other choices for country music (i.e, KYYO 96.9, KMNT 104.3, KANY 93.7). Not to mention, KKWF and KMPS from Seattle should still be audible until you reach Montesano.
Sorry guys, you didn't get rid of me that easily.
I'm enjoying KGY 1240 as I am writing this. I have not had much luck trying to get anything on 95.3, however. I still get a mix of a KXXK pipeline, and CKZZ (depending on my location). I suppose there are some listeners in east Gray's Harbour country who are not too happy about that translator, but there are other choices for country music (i.e, KYYO 96.9, KMNT 104.3, KANY 93.7). Not to mention, KKWF and KMPS from Seattle should still be audible until you reach Montesano.
Something tells me by the branding of FM only, that the AM will soon flip. KIRO AM did this just before they flipped the news to 97.3, same with KXL in Portland. Advertising the FM part on both bands to get people to make the switch and then change the format of the former. Sports maybe for 1240?
Oh no.. PLEASE no more sports in this region.
That FM is a translator; from where, if not 1240, does the programming originate?
KGY is live and local out of the bayside studio. I think it would be foolish to flip to sports. Two sports radio stations are plenty to sustain the region.
As Fordranger says, the KGY translator is a very nice reproduction of their current AM programming... in stereo, too.
The translator is owned by a 3rd party. So long as it's listed as being attached to KGY, which it is, that's what it will have to transmit.
When the rules came out for AM-on-FM translators, the FCC rules weren't as specific regarding program origination as they are with FM. While I haven't seen any specific rule, stating a mandate that a translator run the same programming of the host AM station, or any penalties for splitting the programming, the intent of FCC is clear. However, I also noticed a case in a rural part of the country where a station actually did this; feeding separate programming to the translator and creating a defacto additional station. If KGY was to try this, being so close to the Seattle field office, it might find itself a test case.
Anyway, I don't think this is the intent of KGY. Everything I see indicates it is what the FCC intended... a well-constructed boost for a struggling AM channel.
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Not sure about that, KEX did a translator on 102.3 and then licensed it differently with a new format
"On March 30, 2011 KEX began simulcasting on FM translator K272EL 102.3 FM. The addition of K272EL was in response to rival news/talker KXL's move to the FM band at 101.1, even though KXL-FM has a larger signal advantage over KEX's FM simulcast, although the translator can be heard within the Portland area.
On September 9, 2013 KEX's simulcast on KKRZ-HD2 and K272EL ended with KKRZ-HD2 and K272EL switching to an alternative rock format, branded as "Radio 102.3".
"On March 30, 2011 KEX began simulcasting on FM translator K272EL 102.3 FM. The addition of K272EL was in response to rival news/talker KXL's move to the FM band at 101.1, even though KXL-FM has a larger signal advantage over KEX's FM simulcast, although the translator can be heard within the Portland area.
On September 9, 2013 KEX's simulcast on KKRZ-HD2 and K272EL ended with KKRZ-HD2 and K272EL switching to an alternative rock format, branded as "Radio 102.3".
I think the parent company of KXL should have tried to look into another option before blowing up KUFO so quickly..
To be within the letter (or at least the spirit) of the law, they have to simulcast the parent AM station. That said, here's a bone for you to chew on; K271AH Mount Vernon (formerly Camano)'s parent station is KBRC. However, they have been simulcasting KAPS (KBRC's AM sister station) Like KGY, KAPS no longer mentions it's AM frequency, IDing as "Country 102.1 KAPS".
Perhaps the translator laws were so ambiguously written (on purpose), that you can pretty much get away with anything.
Perhaps the translator laws were so ambiguously written (on purpose), that you can pretty much get away with anything.
How far are they getting with that translator?
Far as they mean distance? Mill Creek and Monroe. Weak, but I can hear them in spots. I think I've even heard them near the The Almost World Famous Baring Store near Baring (east of Index on Hwy 2). Again, impressive coverage. I saw something on the LPFM apps saying that Tulalip might be using 102.1 for an LP owned by the Tulalip Indians. I think NOT! Look how close they are to K271AH. From Tulalip you can practically see Camano Island right across the water. This will be a DISASTER for the translator if it fires up.
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Not really, but it wouldn't necessarily be a big deal for them to switch parent stations. As long as the translator stays within the host AM's 2mV contour or 25 miles, whichever is less, they're technically OK. They probably should send notification though.
(edit)... Just took a look at the filings. According to the translator application, the parent station is KAPS.
Oh... on how they identify themselves... I think it's actually sort of creative for them to be doing that. AM / FM combos have long identified themselves with the call of the dominant signal. So long as the legal IDs are as they should be, they could call themselves pretty much whatever. For that matter, a translator can have an FSK ident chip installed, and you wouldn't have to do any audible ID at all.
In the case of KGY, simply saying "KGY, Olympia", would satisfy the legal requirement for the AM, and it would make sense for the FM, too.
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Did you ever notice how they identify KKXA 1520 on the air? They say, the first "K", followed by a purposeful electric noise, followed by the branding "KXA". Interesting!
Hmmmm.....They long ran KBRC on the translator before KAPS. Like I said, anything goes now I guess.
If KGY were to add HD-2 to KYYO, they could make that into a 3rd station.
As for station IDs. I heard the KKXA one. An easier one would be (were the letters available) KXAN as in "KXA..N Snohomish" or "KXA in Snohomish"
If KGY were to add HD-2 to KYYO, they could make that into a 3rd station.
As for station IDs. I heard the KKXA one. An easier one would be (were the letters available) KXAN as in "KXA..N Snohomish" or "KXA in Snohomish"
Alpha Broadcasting is doing pretty good down there, KXL FM, KINK and KUPL are among the highest rated stations. It was too bad that they switched at would of been KXL AM 85th anniversary. Was hoping for some old sound bytes and coverage of the station' heritage. But yes, KUFO offered something that only KGON remotely comes close to in Portland
They are adamant in the fact that they make sure the listeners know that its only "KXA"!
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