KHNL Channel 8 Honolulu Question

[Markxxx]

Was just looking thru the Honolulu Websites (it's getting cold in Chicago

Although lists KHNL as Channel 13, the website says Channel 8. This link <a target="_blank" href=http://www.raycommedia.com/companies/khnl.htm> says KHNL changed from Channel 13 to Channel 8.

Since Honolulu also has a <a target="_blank" href=http://www.kgmb.com/kgmb/index.cfm>Channel 9</a> how is is possible for KHNL to move to Channel 8? Or is KHNL using channel 8 like a cable branding thing?<P ID="signature">______________
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[fybush]

> Was just looking thru the Honolulu Websites (it's getting
> cold in Chicago
>
> Although The Station Index lists KHNL as Channel 13, the
> website says Channel 8. This link says KHNL changed from
> Channel 13 to Channel 8.
>
> Since Honolulu also has a Channel 9 how is is possible for
> KHNL to move to Channel 8? Or is KHNL using channel 8 like a
> cable branding thing?

Cable branding. Honolulu has huge cable penetration and a near-universal channel lineup statewide, so KHNL can brand itself as 8 and get away with it. It's still 13 over-the-air.<P ID="signature">______________
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[TimInHouston]

> > Was just looking thru the Honolulu Websites (it's getting
> > cold in Chicago
> >
> > Although The Station Index lists KHNL as Channel 13, the
> > website says Channel 8. This link says KHNL changed from
> > Channel 13 to Channel 8.
> >
> > Since Honolulu also has a Channel 9 how is is possible for
>
> > KHNL to move to Channel 8? Or is KHNL using channel 8 like
> a
> > cable branding thing?
>
> Cable branding. Honolulu has huge cable penetration and a
> near-universal channel lineup statewide, so KHNL can brand
> itself as 8 and get away with it. It's still 13
> over-the-air.
>
Most of the stations have repeaters on all the inhabited islands...At one time, KHNL had a repeater on one of teh big islands that was OTA channel 8.

According to the information I found at http://www.tvradioworld.com/region2/hwa/tv_information.asp it appears that OTA repeater was taken back and reissued as a DT station for one of KGMB's repeaters.


KHON-2-Fox broadcasts on the following OTAs:
KHON-2-Honolulu/DT-22
KAII-7-Maui/DT-36
KHAW-11-Hilo/DT-21
K55DZ-55-Kauai

KITV-4-ABC broadcasts on the following OTAs:
KITV-4-Honolulu/DT-40
KMAU-12-Maui/DT-29
KHVO-13-Hilo/DT-18
K51BB-51-Kauai

KGMB-9-CBS broadcasts on the following OTAs:
KGMV-3-Maui/DT-24
KGMD-9-Hilo/DT-8
KGMB-9-Honolulu/DT-8
K57BI-57-Kauai
K69BZ-69-Kauai


KHNL-13-NBC broadcasts on the following OTAs:
KHBC-2-Hilo/DT-22
KHNL-13-Honolulu/DT-35
KOGG-15-Maui/DT-16
K65BV-65-Kauai

KFVE-5-WB broadcasts on the following OTAs:
KFVE-5-Honolulu/DT-23
K27DW-27-Maui
K44DQ-44-Honolulu
K45CT-45-Hilo
K63DZ-63-Maui

KHET-11-PBS broadcasts on the following OTAs:
K04FE-4-Hilo
KMEB-10-Maui/DT-30
KHET-11-Honolulu/DT-18
K63DT-63-Kauai
K67AV-67-Kauai

Those are the big 5 or 6 that I could find.

 

[txchipk]

> > Was just looking thru the Honolulu Websites (it's getting
> > cold in Chicago
> >
> > Although The Station Index lists KHNL as Channel 13, the
> > website says Channel 8. This link says KHNL changed from
> > Channel 13 to Channel 8.
> >
> > Since Honolulu also has a Channel 9 how is is possible for
>
> > KHNL to move to Channel 8? Or is KHNL using channel 8 like
> a
> > cable branding thing?
>
> Cable branding. Honolulu has huge cable penetration and a
> near-universal channel lineup statewide, so KHNL can brand
> itself as 8 and get away with it. It's still 13
> over-the-air.
>

And KHNL has used the "8" branding since becoming an NBC affiliate. When it lost Fox to KHON 2 in the '90s and picked up the NBC affiliation, it debuted with a "News 8" branding. It hasn't been "13" since its Fox days. One kind of odd thing is that KHON 2's digital channel, KHON-DT, is channel 8. If KHON elects to stay there once the transition is over, it might be kind of weird for KHNL to profess to be on channel 8 when over the air KHON is there.

Honolulu is interesting in that it is one of the few markets where all the affiliates still brand with their call letters. When I was there this spring, none of them -- Fox KHON, ABC KITV, WB KFVE, CBS KGMB, or NBC KHLN -- have surrendered their local identities to become yet another "ABC4," "WB5," or "CBS9." The only outlet to lose itself was the PBS outlet -- KHET now just "PBS Hawaii."

 

[hintomedia]

> Honolulu is interesting in that it is one of the few markets
> where all the affiliates still brand with their call
> letters. When I was there this spring, none of them -- Fox
> KHON, ABC KITV, WB KFVE, CBS KGMB, or NBC KHLN -- have
> surrendered their local identities to become yet another
> "ABC4," "WB5," or "CBS9." The only outlet to lose itself
> was the PBS outlet -- KHET now just "PBS Hawaii."

KHNL was actually known as "NBC Hawaii" for several years after the affiliation switch (which I suppose made sense, since they'd want people to know they're the new NBC affil), and the newscasts were titled "NBC Hawaii News 8". I think they only switched (back?) to using their calls on-air within the last year.<P ID="signature">______________
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[Mark_Ericson]

> KHON-2-Fox broadcasts on the following OTAs:
> KHON-2-Honolulu/DT-22

> KGMB-9-CBS broadcasts on the following OTAs:
> KGMB-9-Honolulu/DT-8

Correction, the two stations above swapped digitals in the last year or two. The correct list is

KHON-2 Honolulu/DT-8
KGMB-9 Honolulu/DT-22

This was so that both could have VHFs after the transition (KHON elected 8, KGMB elected 9).

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[RobertMoore]

It may be off-topic, but by the time that happens, they won't have the same owners, with Emmis selling KHON to SJL while KGMB is expected to go to another company soon.