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KHTI would a urban AC format work?

I am not sure about KIIS because I lived at Lake Tahoe at the time, but I suspect they did because I know the Mighty 690 did.

At night XTRA used to come in there like a local.

You're right about XTRA, and it doesn't look to me that KIIS was on it either. Looking at these R&R charts from the end of July 1982, in Los Angeles KFI and KRTH were also playing it. KIQQ and KRLA didn't play it either.
 
Patrick, you've been around long enough to know that radio is programmed by a consensus of what the majority of the target audience agrees is their favorites. I know you've read all the previous discussions about how programming "deeper cuts" is essentially a path toward failure. You might be happy, but far too many more wouldn't ... and then when the station changed format because of low ratings, you'd be right here insisting "it should have worked".

Look at it from a global perspective: If any of those songs were still viable on Classic Hits, surely you would see them in regular rotation at multiple stations across the country. That they are not in regular play is proof that your tastes are different from the masses. Telling us that you will change stations isn't going to convince anyone that the thousands of listeners who don't change stations are wrong.

You inform us that "all these were hits". Allow me to remind you of what has been said here over and over: Past hit status doesn't mean a song is a hit today. If that was the case, we'd be hearing "We Are The World" twice a day, every day. What matters is how the majority of listeners feel about hearing a song NOW. I happen to know, from the databases I have access to, that those songs might as well be obscure, because the audience no longer wants to hear them.

Radio is never going to program to your tastes. Sorry. Perhaps what you need is a MP3 player instead of a radio?
I know all that before I wrote it I was just expressing my opinion of what I would like to hear. And I looked at Kroq 2 rock of the 80s and in there playlist was alot of the big hits. Not as many deep cuts as I would have liked.
 
I know all that before I wrote it I was just expressing my opinion of what I would like to hear.
But we still have to suffer through ever Christmas do they know it's Christmas?

I'd just like to suggest, Patrick, that expressing an opinion that has been dismissed (by no lesser a person than David Eduardo Gleason) already is akin to beating a dead horse which came from a barn whose door was subsequently closed. We've heard it all before and it changes absolutely nothing.

And FYI, the Band Aid song ranks #6 out of 412 Christmas titles played by Classic Hits stations in the top-20 markets, and #4 out of 583 played in the monitored lesser market stations. So yes, you will have to "suffer" through it every year. Sorry. Again.
 
Or that lovely ditty by the Singing Nun...
Or "You Light Up My Life" by Debby Boone, which was #1 in the U.S. for about 8 weeks straight in 1977. I find it fascinating that many huge hits of the past get zero airplay today, while some minor ones (hello, "I Melt With You") are playing all the time now.
 
I know all that before I wrote it I was just expressing my opinion of what I would like to hear. And I looked at Kroq 2 rock of the 80s and in there playlist was alot of the big hits. Not as many deep cuts as I would have liked.
Now I know you're just trolling us. Looking at just the last hour of KROQ HD-2, and look at some of the selections. There are a few hits in here, but the majority are DEEP CUTS:
  • Played at 12:47 am PST
    Six Months In A Leaky Boat
    SPLIT-ENZ
  • Played at 12:39 am PST
    Dance Hall Days
    WANG-CHUNG
  • Played at 12:36 am PST
    Its The End Of The World As We Know It
    R.E.M.
  • Played at 12:32 am PST
    Oblivious
    AZTEC-CAMERA
  • Played at 12:26 am PST
    Everyday Is Halloween
    MINISTRY
  • Played at 12:23 am PST
    (I'm Stuck In A Pagoda With) Tricia Toyota
    DICKIES
  • Played at 12:19 am PST
    Enjoy The Silence
    DEPECHE-MODE
  • Played at 12:11 am PST
    Summer Of Love
    The B-52's
  • Played at 12:06 am PST
    With Or Without You
    U2
  • Played at 12:02 am PST
    Lay Your Hands On Me
    THOMPSON-TWINS
  • Played at 11:57 pm PST
    I Eat Cannibals
    Toto Coelo
  • Played at 11:52 pm PST
    I Confess (12-Inch Extended Mix)
    ENGLISH-BEAT
  • Played at 11:48 pm PST
    Cool Places
    Sparks
  • Played at 11:40 pm PST
    Day After Day
    The Pretenders
 
Now I know you're just trolling us. Looking at just the last hour of KROQ HD-2, and look at some of the selections. There are a few hits in here, but the majority are DEEP CUTS:
  • Played at 12:47 am PST
    Six Months In A Leaky Boat
    SPLIT-ENZ
  • Played at 12:39 am PST
    Dance Hall Days
    WANG-CHUNG
  • Played at 12:36 am PST
    Its The End Of The World As We Know It
    R.E.M.
  • Played at 12:32 am PST
    Oblivious
    AZTEC-CAMERA
  • Played at 12:26 am PST
    Everyday Is Halloween
    MINISTRY
  • Played at 12:23 am PST
    (I'm Stuck In A Pagoda With) Tricia Toyota
    DICKIES
  • Played at 12:19 am PST
    Enjoy The Silence
    DEPECHE-MODE
  • Played at 12:11 am PST
    Summer Of Love
    The B-52's
  • Played at 12:06 am PST
    With Or Without You
    U2
  • Played at 12:02 am PST
    Lay Your Hands On Me
    THOMPSON-TWINS
  • Played at 11:57 pm PST
    I Eat Cannibals
    Toto Coelo
  • Played at 11:52 pm PST
    I Confess (12-Inch Extended Mix)
    ENGLISH-BEAT
  • Played at 11:48 pm PST
    Cool Places
    Sparks
  • Played at 11:40 pm PST
    Day After Day
    The Pretenders
I have been saying KROQ HD-2 is better than KROQ for long time. That mostly just proves that I am getting old, but I'd put that list up against any hour of KROQ's playlist today as my evidence.

I hadn't listened to KROQ for a long time, but tuned in a lot this week to see what is going on. Again, I am not the target audience so they don't care about my opinion, but I have to agree with the several posters here who say the station is unfocused. You do get a lot of Chili Peppers, I will say that.
 
I have been saying KROQ HD-2 is better than KROQ for long time. That mostly just proves that I am getting old, but I'd put that list up against any hour of KROQ's playlist today as my evidence.

I hadn't listened to KROQ for a long time, but tuned in a lot this week to see what is going on. Again, I am not the target audience so they don't care about my opinion, but I have to agree with the several posters here who say the station is unfocused. You do get a lot of Chili Peppers, I will say that.
Yes five burned out compared to nine deeper cuts. Not bad.

I will never forget in March of 2003 when Kroq did there flashback lunch and it was the first day or so of the Iraq war and one of the first songs played was END OF THE WORLD.
 
Or "You Light Up My Life" by Debby Boone, which was #1 in the U.S. for about 8 weeks straight in 1977. I find it fascinating that many huge hits of the past get zero airplay today, while some minor ones (hello, "I Melt With You") are playing all the time now.

In the case of that particular song, it was an extremely low charter when originally released (#76 on the Hot 100. but #7 on the Album Rock chart). But then it was featured in a national ad for Burger King's Double Cheeseburger in 1996, which caused it to start testing well for Classic Hits stations, and it's been a major hit in that format ever since. Last year it was the 23rd most played song in that format, based on national airplay monitors.

It's also been used in commercials for Taco Bell, M&Ms, and Ritz crackers.

You weren't far off on the Boone song. Ten weeks at #1 (peaking in October), 14 weeks in the top ten, 21 in the top 40.
 
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A song is never "burned out" as long as the audience wants to hear it. Please try to better understand that, Patrick.
hotpatrick2004:

All the songs played today across other stations, KRTH, KLOS, JACK, tells me they still "test well' with the audience. But thousands of others songs that radio used to play from the 60's to the 80's are stiff's and will never be heard on ANY station in Los Angeles or FM station across the country.

Familiarity is want the masses like, not an endless playlist of stiffs.

"I Melt With You" (83) gets regular spins, but "You Light Up My Life (77) does not and is a major tune out. However it does quite well Youtube and has a loyal following there.

You want to hear songs that used to be hits then, but have dissappeared from the radio today? Get XM or listen to an HD2 station through your smartphone.
 
Eh, I'm not sure if KIIS-FM ever played Frank Zappa back in the day. Zappa is unlikely to be played on an AOR station, much less a Classic Hits one.
"Valley Girl" reached #1 in Los Angeles June 25, 1982. (KRTH song survey). It was a very popular novelty tune in the valley surrounding L.A. for a short time. One of those fads. Obviously the Val-speak is exaggerated in this song, but reflected the teen trends that summer. I didn't find it on the KIIS surveys. Mighty 690 (XTRA) might have also played it though.
 
"Valley Girl" reached #1 in Los Angeles June 25, 1982. (KRTH song survey). It was a very popular novelty tune in the valley surrounding L.A. for a short time. One of those fads. Obviously the Val-speak is exaggerated in this song, but reflected the teen trends that summer. I didn't find it on the KIIS surveys. Mighty 690 (XTRA) might have also played it though.
I’m sure it was played on KRTH back then, (at least for a short time). But it’s too risky to be played and skipped over by CH today.

A perfect example of what was considered “cool” at the time. I believe that.

My folks might remember it. I’ll get back to you on that.

I do hear it periodically on XM’s 80’s on 8. While it’s an interesting song it’s also an oddball.
 
I have to wonder if KHTI, if it were sold, would serve as a simulcast station for an LA station that doesn't make it easily into the Empire.
 
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