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KIKK AM 650 ON THE AIR AT 4am !!!

EGAD !!!

KIKK 650AM is on the at 4 in the morning with a simulcast of
KKHH-3 "smooth Jazz". Have they been given a 24-hour license
now or this just a big mistake by the board op.


Old Chicago
 
They should have been on 24 hours a day for years. There's no reason for a city Houston's size to have daytime only stations.
 
stan said:
They should have been on 24 hours a day for years. There's no reason for a city Houston's size to have daytime only stations.

Just because the market has muscled its way to the number 6 ranking does not mean a station in the market can then ignore its license or modify it at will.

The size of the city or radio market has absolutely zero to do with if a station is day-time or full-time.
 
Uh, please excuse a dumb question, but when did KIKK AM 650 go to 24 hour broadcasting? When I worked there in the late sixties it was a daytimer.

Clearly I need to get out more. I got stoned and I missed it.
 
stan said:
They should have been on 24 hours a day for years. There's no reason for a city Houston's size to have daytime only stations.

In the past 30 years most former daytimers have added night operation at low powers, or with updated directional antennas. However KIKK is within what is left of the protected night contour of WSM, which precludes night operation.

Much talk on this board over the years about a frequency change which might allow a power increase and night operation, but it would be a lengthy process and expensive to implement.

Face it, AM radio is an overcrowded mess at night. This is why the FM band should be expanded down to 76 MHz and most AM's moved there.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
stan said:
They should have been on 24 hours a day for years. There's no reason for a city Houston's size to have daytime only stations.


Face it, AM radio is an overcrowded mess at night. This is why the FM band should be expanded down to 76 MHz and most AM's moved there.

I agree with you 100%. When TV went HD and most VHF TV stations went to UHF, the FCC should have re-allocated former TV channel 6 to FM radio.

Old Chicago
 
It's been on since 22:00 last night. I checked around 21:30 and WSM was on. I thought it would have been off in a few hours, but it was left on the whole night! Can't believe a goof has just happened in a major market by a major player. On the other it could be a DX test.

Is it still on Smooth Jazz right now or is KIKK on it's daytime schedule?
 
Mediafrog+ said:
stan said:
They should have been on 24 hours a day for years. There's no reason for a city Houston's size to have daytime only stations.

In the past 30 years most former daytimers have added night operation at low powers, or with updated directional antennas. However KIKK is within what is left of the protected night contour of WSM, which precludes night operation.

Much talk on this board over the years about a frequency change which might allow a power increase and night operation, but it would be a lengthy process and expensive to implement.

Face it, AM radio is an overcrowded mess at night. This is why the FM band should be expanded down to 76 MHz and most AM's moved there.
If the FM band was to include 60 more channels (either down to 82 MHZ or up to 114 MHz), I think you could move most operations off of AM and onto an expanded FM band. What I'd strongly suggest is to move as many of the stations with severely 'compromised' signals onto such a band allowing some channels to accommodate stations with up to 100-kilowatts regardless of where they were in the country. Maybe just under half of the new frequencies could be limited to 6kw transmissions. Take most of the AM channels and convert them mostly to clear channels. If possible allow for up to 100-kilowatt transmission in the heart of the country.
 
Doctor_Technical said:
Klutch, a group of engineering consultants have presented the FCC with an extensive proposal to do just what you say: move the entire AM band to channel 5 & 6.

You can get as deep into the technical weeds as you care by reading about it here: http://www.broadmax.org/
I think moving the entire AM band to FM would be a mistake. I could see adding sixty or so channels but I don't think 120 channels are needed. I feel AM still serves some purposes, like offering services to a wide area. This is especially essential during an emergency and no other radio service is available. This is why I advocate turning the AM band into mostly clear channels and having each state with at least one such station. In the case of Florida, I think they could use at least two.
 
Doctor_Technical said:
Klutch, a group of engineering consultants have presented the FCC with an extensive proposal to do just what you say: move the entire AM band to channel 5 & 6.

You can get as deep into the technical weeds as you care by reading about it here: http://www.broadmax.org/
I think moving the entire AM band to FM would be a mistake. I could see adding sixty or so channels but I don't think 120 channels are needed. I feel AM still serves some purposes, like offering services to a wide area. This is especially essential during an emergency and no other radio service is available. This is why I advocate turning the AM band into mostly clear channels and having each state with at least one such station. In the case of Florida, I think they could use at least two.
 
klutch00 said:
I feel AM still serves some purposes, like offering services to a wide area. This is especially essential during an emergency and no other radio service is available.

I didn't want to sit down to hear every other word after each lightning strike on KTRH during Hurricane Ike, so I switched to the TV audio simulcasts on commercial FM.

Sounds good in theory, but not in practice.

DTV should have been all-UHF while analog TV should be on VHF-only instead of expanding the FM band.
 
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