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Kimberly & Beck?

Mel Brooks could have talked about it. It would have been funny. It would even have been funny to transgenders. And nobody would have complained.
How come Mel Brooks gets away with stuff that gets others fired, boycotted... ?

Howard could have talked about it, too. It would have been funny but not as funny. And someone would have complained, if only on general principles because their hobby is monitoring Howard and writing complaints to the commission.

Simple, because both Brooks and Stern knew there was a fine line between being funny (and laughing AT ourselves) and being totally venomous and hateful at another minority group on the air. Kimberly and Beck had failed to realize that until after the fact.

Also, as noted, they failed to mention was that the insurance policy that was offered to transgender individuals was to be paid by the individual AT EXTRA COST TO THEM, NOT THE TAXPAYERS!
 
Also, as noted, they failed to mention was that the insurance policy that was offered to transgender individuals was to be paid by the individual AT EXTRA COST TO THEM, NOT THE TAXPAYERS!

I couldn't care less if what they said is true or false, neither does the station and neither do most of the listeners, and neither does the LGBTLMNOPQ community. The issue is that what they said was "insensitive" towards certain creatures.

Now, I have no idea if what you are saying is true or not, but I do know that just because the employee is paying more for additional insurance coverage, that doesn't mean the employer isn't also paying more, which in this case would mean the taxpayers.
 
Now, I have no idea if what you are saying is true or not, but I do know that just because the employee is paying more for additional insurance coverage, that doesn't mean the employer isn't also paying more, which in this case would mean the taxpayers.

Then why don't you do some research before jumping to conclusions?
 
Now, I have no idea if what you are saying is true or not, but I do know that just because the employee is paying more for additional insurance coverage, that doesn't mean the employer isn't also paying more, which in this case would mean the taxpayers.

Why, is Entercom owned by the government?

Also, insurance coverage by an employer is part of your compensation as an employee. This idea that you're getting it for "free" by your employer is ridiculous. That's like saying you get your paycheck for free too.
 
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Then why don't you do some research before jumping to conclusions?

Because it is irrelevant. That isn't why they were fired.

I don't need to do any research. The person making the claims that the employee is paying needs to do the research, if they care that much. I just stated a fact.
 
Why, is Entercom owned by the government?

Also, insurance coverage by an employer is part of your compensation as an employee. This idea that you're getting it for "free" by your employer is ridiculous. That's like saying you get your paycheck for free too.

Last I knew, city employee's insurance wasn't covered by Entercom alone.

You are correct though, and that's what, I'm assuming, the problem is between the tax payers of the city of Rochester, including Kimberly & Beck, and the city of Rochester's highly compensated and (in some or many cases) under worked employees.
 
The person making the claims that the employee is paying needs to do the research, if they care that much. I just stated a fact.

The only fact here is that the coverage is optional, and must be paid by the employee. THAT is the fact. What you stated was your opinion.
 
The only fact here is that the coverage is optional, and must be paid by the employee. THAT is the fact. What you stated was your opinion.

No, what I said was, "just because the employee is paying more for additional insurance coverage, that doesn't mean the employer isn't also paying more."

That IS a fact.
Maybe not the case here, I don't know. No one posted the source, and I couldn't find it myself.
For all I know, the person who doesn't like them could have made this up, but as I said before it is irrelevant to the firing.
 
Entercom booted them because that was the easiest way to avoid a revolt by sponsors and activist groups. They made a business decision. In this case, it was also morally right.
 
How can anybody defend the indefensible? I listened to this bit. It was about 11 minutes longer than it needed to be. There was a time when good air talent had a sixth sense about shtick. When a bit wasn't working, they bailed. But here, they drove the friggin' bus off the cliff and it went up in flames. Yet some people here thought it was... funny? For real?

If you do a twelve minute bit, the chances of driving off the cliff increase exponentially after the first 60 seconds. If Kimberly had just thought about framing the issues before she opened her mouth, she might have generated some worthwhile points. Around 6:45, she raised the issue about medical insurance not covering cancer therapies which to her, were more worthwhile than gender transectomies. But by that time, the damage had been done. The bit was embarrassing to listen to. Like going to a play where the acting is bad, the script sucks and there's no plot. Having heard the bit, it's pretty clear that Entercom had no choice but to give these clowns the hook.

After playing Aerosmith, Kimberly & Beck should have segued into this >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHDyfJpRcwo
 
How can anybody defend the indefensible? I listened to this bit. It was about 11 minutes longer than it needed to be. There was a time when good air talent had a sixth sense about shtick. When a bit wasn't working, they bailed. But here, they drove the friggin' bus off the cliff and it went up in flames. Yet some people here thought it was... funny? For real?

If you do a twelve minute bit, the chances of driving off the cliff increase exponentially after the first 60 seconds. If Kimberly had just thought about framing the issues before she opened her mouth, she might have generated some worthwhile points. Around 6:45, she raised the issue about medical insurance not covering cancer therapies which to her, were more worthwhile than gender transectomies. But by that time, the damage had been done. The bit was embarrassing to listen to. Like going to a play where the acting is bad, the script sucks and there's no plot. Having heard the bit, it's pretty clear that Entercom had no choice but to give these clowns the hook.

After playing Aerosmith, Kimberly & Beck should have segued into this >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHDyfJpRcwo

Seriously, ever since Stern came on the scene and started doing long-form stream-of-consciousness style riffing, many many a morning host/team has tried to mimick him. Most, meaning like 95%, do it BADLY. What you hear is a lot of mindless babbling laced with obvious attempts to be edgy or shocking. This K&B clip is a perfect example. As an aside, the old Frosty, Heidi & Frank show on KLSX was a major market example of this. This is the reason "hot talk" failed. You had whole daily schedules of this inane garbage.
 
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For all of the people who say they should have been fired for talking too long or doing bad radio, I agree.

That's NOT why they were fired. They were fired because a bunch of thugs that want to stomp out all speech they disagree with demanded it.

If anyone doesn't see why this is dangerous, you're terribly ill-informed.

Let's get a few things straight. I think the segment STUNK. It was too long and not entertaining. I don't agree with what the jocks said. It was insensitive and didn't even really fit the format.

None of that matters. I don't go around demanding people get fired over WORDS unless they are slanderous (thereby opening the company up to liability issues) or an FCC violation.

I am thoroughly convinced that some of the people who want hosts fired for saying things they don't like actually WANT people fired because it will get their untalented butts off the beach.
 
That's NOT why they were fired. They were fired because a bunch of thugs that want to stomp out all speech they disagree with demanded it.

If anyone doesn't see why this is dangerous, you're terribly ill-informed.

So what is a victim of a radio rant supposed to do? Put yourself in their place, and tell me.
 
Short of outright slander and other already illegal forms of speech, there is no such thing as "victim" of a radio rant.

You're dodging the question. Use another word. Say they're the object of a radio rant. One that they didn't provoke. What should they do? Just sit there and take it?
 
You're dodging the question. Use another word. Say they're the object of a radio rant. One that they didn't provoke. What should they do? Just sit there and take it?

Turn off the damn radio and go on with your life. Is that a clear enough answer for you?

Until we as a people stop looking to be offended at every little thing, we're doomed as a society.
 
Until we as a people stop looking to be offended at every little thing, we're doomed as a society.

It's not about being offended. It's not "every little thing." It's one very specific thing. It's about an unprovoked attack for humor. Where does that fit in with the public interest, convenience, and necessity? OK, don't call for them to be fired. Why not challenge the station's license? That's what happened to Entercom in Sacramento.

These people did nothing to cause this rant. Nothing at all. And out of the blue, a couple of radio DJs question their intelligence and make them into a laughing stock. You do that to me in person, and I'd be justified to do something in self defense. Don't you think? I think a judge would agree.
 
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